Californi Secession

It doesn't matter who makes such stupid claims; we fought a massive civil war to prevent it from happening and the precedent has been set. Talk of secession are for lunatics and whackos; which is just about the entire state of California. ;)

We probably wouldn't have fought that war if the Confederacy hadn't attacked America.
 
I think if Cali went Washington and Oregon would follow. That would cause problems.

But it is fucking stupid. What are Californians going to do about all their federal benefits like ss?
 
What would stop the Federal government from blowing your brains out if you threatened the USA? You are so ignorant that you can not understand reality. How would California fund itself without federal funds? Moron
 
What would stop the Federal government from blowing your brains out if you threatened the USA? You are so ignorant that you can not understand reality. How would California fund itself without federal funds? Moron

Who are you talking to?
 
Do you really think that California can be an independent country with it's own military.

god you are retarded
Earlier this month, the state of California's GDP passed that of France to become the sixth largest in the world. The country just ahead of California, in fifth place, is the United Kingdom, where last year's GDP totalled about $2.85 trillion according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).24 Jun 2016

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I think if Cali went Washington and Oregon would follow. That would cause problems.

lol.....I can see it now.....first the three of them would secede......then Oregon would secede from the three of them.......then Sacramento would secede or at least threaten to unless San Francisco was excluded......then the environmental whackos would declare that the sequoias were seceding......
 
We have trillions in unfunded liabilities that we would now have no chance of the federal gov't picking up. Are we going to get a military to protect ourselves? The remainder of the U.S. would lose California's 55 electoral votes, not helpful for the Democrats.




Shervin Pishevar wants to help California secede from the US


Venture capitalist and Hyperloop One co-founder Shervin Pishevar said he wants to help California to secede from the United States and a Donald Trump presidency.
Pishevar tweeted Tuesday night as the election was unfolding that he will be "announcing and funding a legitimate campaign for California to become its own nation," if Trump won the race.

Hours later, Hillary Clinton conceded the election to Trump, and NBC News projected the Republican nominee to win the race.

Pishevar told CNBC he is serious about the proposal, and already has a name for the new sovereign body.
"It's the most patriotic thing I can do," he said. "The country is at serious crossroads. ... Calling it New California."

He went on to describe his plan for California to become the catalyst for a "national dialogue" as the country has reached a "tipping point."

"We can re-enter the union after California becomes a nation," he said. "As the sixth largest economy in the world, the economic engine of the nation and provider of a large percentage of the federal budget, California carries a lot of weight."

He said the country needs to "confront the systemic problems that this election has exposed."

Wednesday morning, Pishevar resigned from the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board, telling President Obama he "cannot serve with a good conscious a President Trump in any capacity."


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/shervin-pishevar-wants-to-help-california-secede-from-the-us.html

Well much more backbone than the herd of "principled" jellyfish in the gop, like two face cruz...

I heard he won't be welcome @ his dad's place this year for Thanksgiving or Christmas....

Ppl are saying it, I mean, they are saying it..
 
Oregonians and Washingtonians really don't like California all that much.

That's because they are elitist...lol

They/you ppl have your issues living in our shadow but half of Oregon is X-Calif & prob a quarter of Wash as well....
 
We have trillions in unfunded liabilities that we would now have no chance of the federal gov't picking up. Are we going to get a military to protect ourselves?


You Teabaggers have ENDLESSLY bragged about your "bootstraps", but.....in reality.....you're always lookin' for your next babysitter!!

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Conservaweenies.....​



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http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/california-weed/article113420578.html


November 9, 2016 - "The cannabis industry scored a landslide victory Tuesday as four states legalized recreational marijuana and another three approved medical use, cementing the 2016 election’s place in the history books.

The developments could lead to $7 billion-$8 billion in additional annual retail cannabis sales, according to Marijuana Business Daily’s preliminary estimates."


 
Here's what could happen if California had a 'Calexit' and left the US

"Calexit," a campaign in California for the state to become an independent nation, has gone viral after Donald Trump won the race to the White House.

The Yes California Independence Campaign aims to put a referendum on a 2018 ballot that, if passed, would bring California one step closer to legally seceding from the union.

Far-fetched as it may sound, the campaign exploded from a fringe political group to a nationwide social media trend in a matter of hours as Californians came to terms with a Trump presidency.

The movement has at least one impressive backer in Shervin Pishevar, an early backer of Uber and a well-known angel investor who offered to bankroll the campaign on Twitter.

Yes California released a 33-page blue book on its website this year explaining its path to secession. It also provides clues as to what life might be like in a post-secession California.

To be clear, there is no precedent for a state to leave the US. The event that Calexit actually happens is unlikely, and we have no idea what the impact of a California exit might have.

But Yes California claims, at least, that a new California will be more or less the same.

If California broke away from the union — a process that would take years after the state election in 2018, when Californians will potentially (though unlikely) vote on a ballot initiative that gauges their support for secession — it would become a sort of sister nation of the US.

"We're not trying a 1860s breakaway," Louis Marinelli, president of Yes California, told The Los Angeles Times in 2015."We're talking about California being recognized as a nation within a nation, like Scotland in the United Kingdom. We feel California is more than just a state."

We don't know yet what kind of government, be it parliamentary or presidential, would take hold. Californians would choose the type of democracy it installs through a series of elections, according to the group's blue book. The country could craft an entirely new system, which sounds like it would change life quite a bit, contrary to Yes on California's claims.

Instead of paying taxes to the federal government, Californians would keep that money in the state. Yes California expects those tax dollars would increase California's budget by "hundreds of billions of dollars," seeing that the state has paid more in federal taxes than it has received in federal payouts (in the amount of double-digit billions) every year since 1995.

An independent California would continue to use American currency, the group hopes. The US dollar is a "'fully-tradeable' international currency, which means any country can use it if it wants to without requiring the US Government's permission."

Ecuador, El Salvador, and the British Virgin Islands, for example, use the US dollar.

The swirling uncertainty around Calexit, which has yet to get a formal response from Sacramento, the state's capital, prompts lots of questions.

The campaign's blue book at least addresses the more practical elements of life in California. What happens to our avocados? Could we still compete in the Olympics? (Answer is yes.)

The Golden State's ranches and farms raked in $47 billion in crop cash receipts in 2015. It produces over a third of the country's vegetables and two-thirds of fruits and nuts, making California's agriculture industry the largest in the nation.

Booming agriculture could theoretically keep California's economy afloat post-secession. Yes California wants to reinvest the money the new country earns in global experts into environmental conservation, technological innovation, and road maintenance and transportation infrastructure. (It ignores the awkward transition that millions of Californians would have to make in turning their businesses into global ones.)

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Would we have a military? Who would pay S.S. and Medicare? Who would pay unfunded pension liabilities?
 
Would we have a military? Who would pay S.S. and Medicare? Who would pay unfunded pension liabilities?
You already have a military, vis-a-vis the Guard. You even have a small fleet of fighters amongst the Guard bases (March, Fresno, etc). They are under National Guard Bureau and DOD control, but they ultimately belong to Sacramento.
 
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