Cain this all be true?

Onceler said:
I have never met anyone cool who didn't watch Star Trek.

I was just thinking that Damo could start a whole separate forum for discussion on the political messages in Star Trek alone. That show was years - or should I say parsecs? - ahead of its time...
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That would be beyond cool.
 
Damocles said:
Now we're getting somewhere, you basically agree with Cain then. He's just more honest about where exactly the disconnect in beliefs comes. You pretend that it wouldn't be because I was superchristian, however it is "why" (in my example) I believe what you so abhor. Basically, the superchristian anti-abortionists need not apply.
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I am very honest about it. Its the policy position that is a legit reason to not appoint someone, not the religen.

Kennedy was a great example of a Pro-Choice Catholic. I would have appointed someone with his political belifes, him being a Catholic does not affect my opinion.
 
Alias said:
The left is showing their hand on Herman Cain. Every hateful racist tactic is gonna be used now that he is getting more popular. The lefty dweebs ar scrambling and searching for a woman who had an affair or claims to be sexually harrassed by him. Remember the confirmation hearings of Clarence Thomas.........
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You must have been living in a bubble during the Obama campaign.
 
Superfreak said:
I have seen Article 6. Cain is not saying he wouldn't nominate any Muslim. He is saying he would not nominate any Muslim that believes Sharia law should be the law of the land. Just as Obama is not likely to nominate someone who thinks all abortions should be outlawed.
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Cite?
 
Jarod said:
I do? Where, show me? I am a Christian and I would not have a problem with me being appointed.....
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I gave you an example already, Sarah Palin! When John McCain picked her as his running mate, you and the rest of your cabal, began to smear her religious beliefs... she belonged to some wacko church... You've done the same thing with Bachmann and her comments that her religion tells her she should submit to her husband.... have you totally forgotten all this, or do you not consider this a complaint of someones religious beliefs?
 
Superfreak said:
Pretending Cain didn't clarify his comments regarding Muslims doesn't mean he didn't do just that. He stated that it was those that wanted Sharia Law that he would not appoint. Either pay attention or by all means, start a few more threads on this nonsense. It reeks of desperation. Much like the continued efforts of the left to pretend a word on a rock (that was painted over) on land that Perry's family leases somehow makes Perry a racist.
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Whether he clarified or not... how many natural-born American Muslim citizens support Shari'ah law? His premise was ridiculous.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
That's right...nothing like watching someone dodging an issue by being obtuse and disingenuous.

OF COURSE the President can outlaw abortions...IF he has a like minded congressional MAJORITY in both houses of Congress. Congressional Righties will write the bill and CAIN would sign it into law...

NEXT?
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Oh yeah, I forgot... Since Obama set the precedent by passing unconstitutional law with no bipartisan support, I suppose Republicans COULD try such a thing. The problem is, the Supreme Court will ultimately have something to say about it, and they have ruled on abortion already.... so, it would be shot down about as quickly as it was signed into law.

NEXT?
 
Dixie said:
I gave you an example already, Sarah Palin! When John McCain picked her as his running mate, you and the rest of your cabal, began to smear her religious beliefs... she belonged to some wacko church... You've done the same thing with Bachmann and her comments that her religion tells her she should submit to her husband.... have you totally forgotten all this, or do you not consider this a complaint of someones religious beliefs?
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Please, show us where we said it should keep her from running for office?

It may influence my vote, but it should not disqualify her from office, that is the difference, do you understand the distinction?

People belief in Sharia should not keep them from being a candidate for office, but it may be a deciding factor in voting for them, just like abortion, just like gay marriage, just like being liberal or onsrvayive., a haha, iPad, that is suppose to be conservative or was it a Fruedian spelling err?
 
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Dixie said:
I gave you an example already, Sarah Palin! When John McCain picked her as his running mate, you and the rest of your cabal, began to smear her religious beliefs... she belonged to some wacko church... You've done the same thing with Bachmann and her comments that her religion tells her she should submit to her husband.... have you totally forgotten all this, or do you not consider this a complaint of someones religious beliefs?
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I never once EVER said that anyones political affiliation should bar them from public office. You are a LIAR until you can show me differently.
 
Rana said:
I wish all you super grammar nerds would get off the spelling. It is a rather juvenile way to feel superior to another. I see many, including myself make spelling errs, but you are a big, smart guy and can figure out what Jarod means. There are many intelligent people I know who can't spell or write a grammatically correct paper. This is a message board, not his college thesis.

You get frustrated and that is when you all pile on him about his spelling. It is so stupid. There are several posters on this forum who write perfectly, but don't have much else going for them. Jarod at least gives you a good debate.
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Well said, Rana. We can always count on the detractors to hijack the thread with insults to Jarod, when he has some very good points to make and rarely answers them back the same way he's addressed.

Idiots, morons, etc. don't pass the LSAT, don't get into law school, don't pass the bar, don't have a law practice. Maybe they should keep this in mind instead of harping on the spelling.
 
Dixie said:
Oh yeah, I forgot... Since Obama set the precedent by passing unconstitutional law with no bipartisan support, I suppose Republicans COULD try such a thing. The problem is, the Supreme Court will ultimately have something to say about it, and they have ruled on abortion already.... so, it would be shot down about as quickly as it was signed into law.

NEXT?
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Its not Unconstitutional. Lets see what the S.Ct. says.
 
christiefan915 said:
Whether he clarified or not... how many natural-born American Muslim citizens support Shari'ah law? His premise was ridiculous.
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Islam is a religion as verified,( I hate iPad self correct,) varied as Christianity. There are Sufis, Shi'ites and Wahabi. The mystics, the moderates and the radicals. PAt Robertson and Bob Marley are both Christians, the same, but very different!
 
Lowaicue said:
You live in a country that does body searches on people at immigration. You live in a country that kills its criminals. You live in a country that kills more of its own innocents than any other modern nation. You live in a country which imposes patriotism. You live in a country in which walking through the streets after dark is dangerous. You live in a country that is unable to accept other religions or other sports preferring to invent your own. You live in a country where power is vested in the dirty hands of the fat cat capitalists who will never, despite what you are told to believe, never allow you even the crumbs from their overladen tables. You live in a country that is still, in 2011, one of the most colour conscious and racist in the modern world.

.....and you talk about ....



the essence of freedom?

Freedom?
You have no frikkin idea! You really are a joke a minute.
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Gee, sounds like you were describing GB or China. :)
 
Jarod said:
I am very honest about it. Its the policy position that is a legit reason to not appoint someone, not the religen.

Kennedy was a great example of a Pro-Choice Catholic. I would have appointed someone with his political belifes, him being a Catholic does not affect my opinion.
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As I said, the source of the policy is the religion. If I were not an anti-abortion superchristian it wouldn't matter, if you aren't a Muslim Sharia Law proponent it doesn't matter... Muslim, okay, Muslim Sharia Law proponent = not okay... Just as it is in Cain's example. Yours: Christian, okay, anti abortion Christian = not okay...

His clarification made it obvious you two are saying essentially the same thing. I'm glad you find agreement with Cain on how this should be applied.
 
Rana said:
Why do a lot of conservatives hate feelings? What do you do with them when you have them? Is sex even a logical exploit for you? Is it like being Spock? Or more like being a robot? Does not having feelings make you ill? You bottle them up and then is it like uncorking champagne when you finally let go?

I can't imagine stifling my feelings. They are so much a part of me. My gut reactions are more often correct, then if I try to reason in my decision making process.

I wonder if there is a good book I can read on this subject matter. I do know that my uncle, a Spock like man, in his later years became a great big ball of mush! And it was a joy to watch him and his little dog.
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And here's irony for you. I've heard many, many conservatives say they like reagan because he made them FEEL good about themselves. Not how he made them THINK well of themselves. So it appears the "feelings" thing depends on whether a liberal or conservative uses the term.
 
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