CA Prop. 8 shot down

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Alias said:
Oh, for sure. Must be hard to live in a nation that all of a sudden finds itself infested with all these bigots. Gee, where did they all come from?
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Oh the bigots have been there all along. Its just that we who are not bigotted have learned to fight better. Plus, with the increased communications and media access we cannot be silenced like we were in your "good ol' days".
 
WinterBorn said:
Oh the bigots have been there all along. Its just that we who are not bigotted have learned to fight better. Plus, with the increased communications and media access we cannot be silenced like we were in your "good ol' days".
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Oh, for sure. You're a real freedom figher.
 
Alias said:
Oh, for sure. Must be hard to live in a nation that all of a sudden finds itself infested with all these bigots. Gee, where did they all come from?

You little asswipes can't have everything you want so you whine and call people bigots, racists, homophobes, Islamophobes, promoters of hate speech, etc, etc. People are turning you little miscreants off.
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ROFLMAO... you DO realize which way the public sentiment is trending do you not? It is not towards those who are bigoted like you. It IS towards tolerance of those who are different. Something you fail to comprehend.

I acknowledge that many religions still teach that homosexual relations are wrong. But in this country, we do NOT allow religious beliefs to be forced onto the entire populace... or we are at the least not supposed to allow it.
 
WinterBorn said:
The third party would have no legal ties to the child, especially if they get the sperm from a sperm bank.
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No, sperm from a sperm bank would be one of the few situations where the 3rd party wouldnt have legal ties to the child as part of the sperm donation process involves surrendering any paternal rights to any children conceived with his sperm. Any child that resulted from sexual relations with a man, his paternal rights are unaffected my the mothers marriage to her gay lover.
 
Superfreak said:
ROFLMAO... you DO realize which way the public sentiment is trending do you not? It is not towards those who are bigoted like you. It IS towards tolerance of those who are different. Something you fail to comprehend.
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"Tolerance" doesnt require tax breaks and governmental entitlements.
 
Superfreak said:
ROFLMAO... you DO realize which way the public sentiment is trending do you not? It is not towards those who are bigoted like you. It IS towards tolerance of those who are different. Something you fail to comprehend.

I acknowledge that many religions still teach that homosexual relations are wrong. But in this country, we do NOT allow religious beliefs to be forced onto the entire populace... or we are at the least not supposed to allow it.
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70% of Black people in California voted for Prop 8. All of a sudden 70% of the Black Americans in California became bigots in one day. A people who were being denied their civil rights for so many years have now become guilty of denying others their civil rights. Simply amazing.
 
dixon76710 said:
Some of the Euopean countries who have had gay marriage the longest, are seeing 1/2 of 1% of all marriages as same sex marriages. This is a barely peceptable expansion of privilidges to accomodate a tiny minority, to the exclusion of others. But they dont matter because they dont rub genitals like the gays do.
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Who is excluded? And if its such a tiny percentage, why not allow it?
 
dixon76710 said:
No, sperm from a sperm bank would be one of the few situations where the 3rd party wouldnt have legal ties to the child as part of the sperm donation process involves surrendering any paternal rights to any children conceived with his sperm. Any child that resulted from sexual relations with a man, his paternal rights are unaffected my the mothers marriage to her gay lover.
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Unless he relinquished his parental rights.

Also, in almost all cases, sperm donors have no parental rights. They sign them away when the arrangements are made. Much like a surrogate mother relinquishes her rights to the child she bears.


So if two lesbians are together, and one gets pregnant via a sperm donor, the child will not have 2 legal parents by your claims, but if we allow gays to marry, the child will have 2 legal parents.

It sounds to me like these lesbians fit the definitions you have been saying are the reason for gov't benefits. It would encourage that children be raised with 2 parents who are legally responsible for them.
 
Alias said:
Oh, for sure. You're a real freedom figher.
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Indeed I am. I am fighting to prevent gays from being fired from teaching positions because of bigots like you. I am fighting to remove barriers that are thrown up at gays by bigots like you.
 
dixon76710 said:
And still, no homosexual union has EVER resulted in procreation.
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And plenty of heterosexual marriages have not resulted in procreation. But you want to continue benefits to one and deny them to the other.
 
WinterBorn said:
Indeed I am. I am fighting to prevent gays from being fired from teaching positions because of bigots like you. I am fighting to remove barriers that are thrown up at gays by bigots like you.
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70% of Blacks in California are now bigots because they voted for Prop 8. Yep, you're a real freedom fighter.

If the queers can't leave their agenda out of the classroom then they need to be removed. Teach. Don't indoctrinate.

Now we find out even Jesus was a bigot. Gee, who knew.
 
Alias said:
70% of Blacks in California are now bigots because they voted for Prop 8. Yep, you're a real freedom fighter.

If the queers can't leave their agenda out of the classroom then they need to be removed. Teach. Don't indoctrinate.

Now we find out even Jesus was a bigot. Gee, who knew.
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The percentage of blacks that voted for Prop 8 is not relevant to whether or not I am a freedom fighter.

That you want all gay teachers fired for no reason other than their sexual orientation shows you to be a bigot.
 
WinterBorn said:
The percentage of blacks that voted for Prop 8 is not relevant to whether or not I am a freedom fighter.

That you want all gay teachers fired for no reason other than their sexual orientation shows you to be a bigot.
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Teachers should not bring their personal sexual orientation into the classroom. These are centers of learning, not indoctrination.

Jesus Christ said marriage was between a man and a woman. So now not only are 70% of California Blacks bigots, but so is the baby Jesus. Good work, WinterBorn.
 
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