CA Prop. 8 shot down

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This case will eventually find its way to the supreme court, where a 5-4 majority will rule against the ninth circuit. I don't like it but that's the way its gonna be.
 
Socrtease said:
This case will eventually find its way to the supreme court, where a 5-4 majority will rule against the ninth circuit. I don't like it but that's the way its gonna be.
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imo...i think it will not turn out that way

there is ample precedent for the court to find in favor of gay marriage.
 
Rana said:
The fact that the are human individuals with rights does though. They just want to be people withe right to live the way they choose, not based upon anyone else's religious beliefs.
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????? And....somehow gays have convinced themselves that this cant be achieved without government endorsement, tax breaks and governmental entitlements?
 
Eye said:
imo...i think it will not turn out that way

there is ample precedent for the court to find in favor of gay marriage.
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heterosexual couples are the only couples who can produce biological offspring of the couple
http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/content/pdf/759341opn.pdf
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We are dealing here with legislation which involves one of the basic civil rights of man. Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=316&invol=535
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The institution of marriage as a union man and woman, uniquely involving the procreation and rearing of children within a family, is as old as the book of Genesis...
http://www.cas.umt.edu/phil/faculty/Walton/bakrvnel.htm
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it is not surprising that the decision to marry has been placed on the same level of importance as decisions relating to procreation, childbirth, child rearing, and family relationships. . . .
it would make little sense to recognize a right of privacy with respect to other matters of family life and not with respect to the decision to enter the relationship that is the foundation of the family in our society
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=434&invol=374
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But as Skinner, Loving, and Zablocki indicate, marriage is traditionally linked to procreation and survival of the human race. Heterosexual couples are the only couples who can produce biological offspring of the couple....

And the link between opposite-sex marriage and procreation is not defeated by the fact that the law allows opposite-sex marriage regardless of a couple’s willingness or ability to procreate. The facts that all opposite-sex couples do not have children and that single-sex couples raise children and have children with third party assistance or through adoption do not mean that limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples lacks a rational basis. Such over- or under-inclusiveness does not defeat finding a rational basis....
http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/content/pdf/759341opn.pdf
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Eye said:
what? from what i've seen, read and talked with friends, gays only want EQUAL rights.
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Here in America we give superior rights to the married, not equal. In 44 states to heterosexual couples because they are the only couples who procreate. In 6 states, also to gay couples because they rub genitals just like a real mom and dad....although I dont know what rubbing genitals has to do with anything.
 
dixon76710 said:
Here in America we give superior rights to the married, not equal. In 44 states to heterosexual couples because they are the only couples who procreate. In 6 states, also to gay couples because they rub genitals just like a real mom and dad....although I dont know what rubbing genitals has to do with anything.
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And I don't know what you're talking about has to do with anything.
 
dixon76710 said:
Here in America we give superior rights to the married, not equal. In 44 states to heterosexual couples because they are the only couples who procreate. In 6 states, also to gay couples because they rub genitals just like a real mom and dad....although I dont know what rubbing genitals has to do with anything.
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equal rights means rights equal to like parties.

your last sentence is bizarre, to say the least.
 
WinterBorn said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/...ar_n_671018.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

"In a major victory for gay rights activists, a federal judge ruled on Wednesday that a voter initiative banning same-sex marriage in California violated the Constitution's equal protection and due process rights clauses.

After a five-month wait, 9th Circuit District Court Judge Vaughn Walker offered a 136-page decision in the case of Perry v. Schwarzenegger, firmly rejecting Proposition 8, which was passed by voters in November 2008."
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good, it is about time - it was about minority rights all along
 
Alias said:
More proof that the left is totalitarian. To hell with the will of the people.
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The people have to follow the law. This is NOT mob rule. The people were wrong on this issue and the people need to keep their religion to themselves.
 
WinterBorn said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/...ar_n_671018.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

"In a major victory for gay rights activists, a federal judge ruled on Wednesday that a voter initiative banning same-sex marriage in California violated the Constitution's equal protection and due process rights clauses.

After a five-month wait, 9th Circuit District Court Judge Vaughn Walker offered a 136-page decision in the case of Perry v. Schwarzenegger, firmly rejecting Proposition 8, which was passed by voters in November 2008."
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It's about damn time. The only thing that is surprising is how long it took to render the decision.
 
Russellbor said:
It's about damn time. The only thing that is surprising is how long it took to render the decision.
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Agreed Russellbor, Alabama should not be playing in the BCS Championship game. Y'all already lost at home to LSU. You DO NOT deserve a rematch on a neutral field.
 
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