But hey they just want their abominable marriage recognized!
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Judges 11:30-39New International Version (NIV)
30 And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”
32 Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the Lord gave them into his hands. 33 He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.
34 When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the Lord that I cannot break.”
36 “My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the Lord. Do to me just as you promised, now that the Lord has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. 37 But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.”
38 “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.
30 And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”
32 Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the Lord gave them into his hands. 33 He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.
34 When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the Lord that I cannot break.”
36 “My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the Lord. Do to me just as you promised, now that the Lord has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. 37 But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.”
38 “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
Desh is the new Ammonite......
Mr.Badguy
Super lefty
1. Part of Paul's letter taken out of context here. He is speaking on IDLENESS to fellow Christians.
2. Simply another "homosexuality is wrong" verse, which everyone agrees is the Bible's stance. What I want to know is where does it say to not offer services to homosexuals or even other types of sinners as a Christian.
3. See #2
That would be so Christian of them, wouldn't it.
Jesus lived with the sinners, broke bread with them, loved them, showed them by example that loving one another changed lives. This is the Jesus I read about in scriptures, but I find few of his followers live by his example. They use the purity laws of the Jews against homosexuals, and they aren't even Jews, they are Christians, and people forget, Paul wasn't a Christian, he saw himself as a Jew for Jesus.
Not liking gays isn't "racism," dumb ass
No, it wouldn't be Christian of them- but according to all of you they aren't behaving Christian like- you want to give your money to people who don't like what you are doing, but being forced to do so? Pretty stupid.
You understand biblical theology as well as an ant knows the English language-
lol, seems you are the who doesn't understand it if you find fault with my evaluation of Jesus
No, I find your biblical theology shallow, sophomoric, and cherry picked.
So, this is shallow, sophomoric and cherry picked?
Jesus lived with the sinners, broke bread with them, loved them, showed them by example that loving one another changed lives.
Please, explain how this statement is shallow, sophomoric and cherry picked. Thanks
Because you are attempting to imply the idea that being against gay marriage is not being Christian. That's shallow and sophomoric application of a cherry picked scripture. The bakers sold baked goods to homosexuals- they drew the line at participating in what they deemed crossed a line for them as regards a sacrament of the Church. In others words they did share their business with them as far as their conscience allowed.
I am attempting to tell you that you Jesus would act differently from the bakers. Read the scripture of the woman at the well, you do not change what you perceive as sinful in others by not baking a cake. The scriptures are full of Jesus healing those who were sinners, he didn't reject them, he excepted them and in doing so changed their lives. You treat them as you do others, you try to show them to sin no more.
If this is a shallow, sophomoric, cherry picked version of Jesus, then it is probably the reason I no longer identity as Christian, I thought Jesus message was one of love and acceptance but have found his followers to be more willing to judge.
As another poster has asked, show me where Jesus says you can't bake a cake, I have seen scripture that says if it causes you sin, but nothing in the area of doing service for sinners, Jesus was all about service for sinners.
Who are you talking to? The voices in your head?
I could never get my head wrapped around the idea that God wants the government to decide who's "married" at all
Yes, he would have- he'd have told them to stop and sin no more- to pick up their cross, and daily die to their proclivity- just as he would a drunkard, adulter, thief etc. but that Jesus would be condemned by the modern culture and I dare say hated.
Yes, they won't bake him a cake, that which you do to the least of your brethren, you do unto me.