Burn the fuckin' lifeboats

[LV426]

If anything, the border wall should be a Democrat priority. As is the alignment with Russia/Putin more like a Dem position. If not for the Trump politics and the collusion, the Dems would be able to see more clearly on Russia/Putin. When Trump goes, the whole house of cards falls. The Russia hating will be politically neutral until the Dems find reasons to de-escalate it.

Troll alert.

You're just pretending, aren't you?

Firstly, it's Democratic party. Only partisan Conservatives call it "Democrat Party", so you just slipped there. You just revealed who you are and what you're trying to do.

This ID of yours is a lifeboat, isn't it?

It's you trying to find a way to keep your shitty Conservative ideas and beliefs in the mainstream while trying to disassociate from the inevitable results of those beliefs and ideas.

Don't fucking lie to me. I'm not some stupid Conservative dolt who is conned by a reality TV show host.

Whatever it is you're trying to do here, I'm not buying it.

 

[montgomery]

See, it's shit like this that makes me think you're not genuine.

Of course they wanted a wall...it's literally what they chanted over and over.

STOP.

Be careful of confusing the Republican congress critters with the lowlife supporters which are provided on this forum as examples. The baggers in congress are crazy enough to believe in the border wall, the rest aren't.

The whole premise to begin with is antithema to Republican needs and wants. America's industry and agriculture are not viable without cheap 'illegal' labourers.

 

[LV426]

I wasn't referring to the crazies on this board. But I stop short of mentally disturbed except in a few of the extreme cases such as the outright bragging racists and a few others not worth my time to mention. The most of the seemingly crazies are just political and didn't have a better choice. Had the Dem party deliberately fucked up Bernie in favour of Clinton, a lot of them would have turned to Bernie. They're just ordinary poor people who should know that Trump will never be helpful to them.

Yeah, whatever trolling you're trying to do here...it isn't working.

I'm not buying it.

I see right through it.

You're trying to maintain your shitty brand of Conservatism in the mainstream despite the fact that specific brand of Conservatism is no different than any other iteration, and you are trying to normalize those shitty Conservative beliefs and ideas by triangulating.

I want you to be honest; do you think this shit actually works?

It doesn't.

It just makes you look bad and afraid of accountability.

Eventually, we'll drag your true personality out Mr. "I just happened to create this ID one week after the worst Conservative election loss in a generation".

 

[montgomery]

They will become even more batshitcrazy and blame who they always blame for their lot in life like the self-victimized whiny little bitches they are.

I'm much more interested in rational discussion, as opposed to the opportunities to take some shots at the rightist assholes. Fuk em, they're not worth our time.

 

[LV426]

Be careful of confusing the Republican congress critters with the lowlife supporters which are provided on this forum as examples. The baggers in congress are crazy enough to believe in the border wall, the rest aren't. The whole premise to begin with is antithema to Republican needs and wants. America's industry and agriculture are not viable without cheap 'illegal' labourers.

"NO TRUE SCOTSMAN"

HARD PASS.

 

[LV426]

I'm much more interested in rational discussion, as opposed to the opportunities to take some shots at the rightist assholes. Fuk em, they're not worth our time.

See, this isn't even clever obfuscation.

"Yeah, look at me lob superficial insults at Conservatives so I can shoehorn in my Conservative ideas as some sort of rational alternative".

Been there, done that.

It may have worked when you stapled a teabag to your face, but that shit only works once.

 

[montgomery]

Manafort picked Pence for a reason. What was that reason when he could have picked from so many other Conservatives instead?

Pence took over the transition after Christie quit, while Flynn was breaking the law and making contacts with Russia.

If Pence didn't know what Flynn was doing, then Pence is unfit and should be impeached.

But I give Pence too much credit for that....Pence isn't some clueless dummy.

He didn't pick Pence out of a hat.

There's a reason Manafort picked Pence and a reason Pence accepted.

That reason will probably be in Mueller's report, which is why I think Pence is going to resign sooner rather than later.

I hear your opinion.

 

[Sirthinksalot]

Yes. Very much so.

Seems to me that you created this ID last January to re-position yourself after a year of defending Trump and the GOP.

You started off with posts that had the facade of thoughtfulness, positioning yourself as some "above it all both-siderist who favors moderation".

As that facade was worn down, you just fell right back into the same bad habits that caused you to switch IDs from before.

That's why this one will probably bite the dust soon and be replaced by another one so you can lend yourself credibility that doesn't exist.

Not my first rodeo.

Do you believe the shit you shovel? This ID isn't going anywhere. I can't fathom why anyone would create multiple accounts on an anonymous forum.

 

[LV426]

Do you believe the shit you shovel? This ID isn't going anywhere. I can't fathom why anyone would create multiple accounts on an anonymous forum.

LOL...yeah, OK...we'll see Mr. "I just happened to stumble upon this forum a year ago, no really I did, no seriously, no believe me, no for realzzzzzz."

I can fathom exactly why...you're embarassed by what you wrote before, don't like it when people force you to eat shit, and your ego is so fragile that you have to literally switch IDs just so you don't have to admit you're wrong about something.

It's the same kind of person whose judgment is so poor, whose instincts are so bad, and whose character is so rotten that they got conned into voting for a reality TV show host -and not even a good one who could win awards- with stupid hair, a fake orange tan, and a mail-order wife.

 

[Sirthinksalot]

LOL...yeah, OK...we'll see Mr. "I just happened to stumble upon this forum a year ago, no really I did, no seriously, no believe me, no for realzzzzzz."

I can fathom exactly why...you're embarassed by what you wrote before, don't like it when people force you to eat shit, and your ego is so fragile that you have to literally switch IDs just so you don't have to admit you're wrong about something.

It's the same kind of person whose judgment is so poor, whose instincts are so bad, and whose character is so rotten that they got conned into voting for a reality TV show host -and not even a good one who could win awards- with stupid hair, a fake orange tan, and a mail-order wife.

Everyone on this forum started on it at some point dumb fuck. There's no way to prove that this is the only profile I've ever had on here. Seems like you're doing a lot of projecting.

 

[LV426]

Everyone on this forum started on it at some point dumb fuck. There's no way to prove that this is the only profile I've ever had on here. Seems like you're doing a lot of projecting.

LOL! Sure. OK. Fine. Whatever.

 

[anonymoose]

No Conservative or Republican gets to float away from Trump.

No teabags.

No "No labels".

No "Classical Liberals".

No "I'm really a Libertarian".

No "both sides are the same".

No "No True Scotsman".

The GOP is Trump, Trump is Conservatism, the GOP is Conservatism.

It's all rolled into one, and the lifeboat is on fire.

Happy to watch them all drown.

So basically anybody that's not a dim is a republican in your view.
And if they're a registered dim, vote dim but not 100% on board with all the dim wit PC BS that goes with it, is a republican.
This is why Trump is president.
Even when Trump inevitably will not be POTUS again you'll never have the satisfaction of seeing even hard right repubs crying, wailing, wearing diaper pins or crawling into safe rooms with crayons.
Those images will be on youtube for decades to come.

 

[LV426]

So basically anybody that's not a dim is a republican in your view

A "dim"?

Oh, is that your plagiarized attempt at a clever nickname for Democrats? Where did you steal that from? Because we both know you didn't come up with that on your own; you lack the skills and ability to be that clever.

You voted for Trump, you support Trump, you vote Republican, you defend Republicans, you own all this shit. It's all on you. We won't forget either and when the time comes for you to float your own lifeboat, you're going to find yourself at the bottom of the bay because you burned them yourself.

 

[LV426]

And if they're a registered dim, vote dim but not 100% on board with all the dim wit PC BS that goes with it, is a republic

What PC BS are you not on board with?

Treating people with respect?

Not saying the N-word?

Not calling women the C-word?

Not calling people "f-g"?

Not using other slurs?

That's what you're not on board with?

Yeesh, why are you so sensitive?

 

[LV426]

This is why Trump is president.

No, Trump is President because Russia was effective at brainwashing Conservatives into voting for a Russian puppet because their racism was more prominent than their common sense and decency.

That's why Trump won.

It's not to do with Clinton, who got 3 million more votes.

It's not to do with liberals, who were vocal about their support.

It has to do with Conservatives who made the choice to vote for Trump knowing all the bad shit he was going to do, was involved with, and even said out loud.

No one else deserves blame for Trump other than the people who made the choice to vote for him, and to vote for Republicans who indulged and enabled him.

Putting that on Clinton, or Democrats, or liberals is just your way of absconding responsibility for the poor choices you and others like you made 2 years ago.

There exists no world in which you will be forgiven, and/or your support for these people will be forgotten.

It will hang on your neck like an albatross for the rest of your life; you will have to live your life knowing that you made the worst mistake of political judgment one could possibly make in their lives. And because of that choice you made, you can never be relied upon to be honest, thoughtful, or trustworthy again.

 

[LV426]

Even when Trump inevitably will not be POTUS again you'll never have the satisfaction of seeing even hard right repubs crying, wailing, wearing diaper pins or crawling into safe rooms with crayons.

We will see about that.

Last November was pretty fucking brutal for your kind.

2020 will be even worse.

Those images will be on youtube for decades to come.

Well, you're the one who has to live the rest of your life insecure in the knowledge that you made the worst political judgment one could possibly make.

And because of that poor judgment, you cannot be relied upon to have good judgment ever again.

Ever. Again.

 

[hvilleherb]

Hillary ran a great campaign...she got 3M more votes than Trump.

Hillary lost. America rejected Hillary.

 

[anonymoose]

We will see about that.

Last November was pretty fucking brutal for your kind.

2020 will be even worse.

Every election is brutal for my kind.


8. We’re not trying to win elections
Any libertarian who tells you he is trying to win an election is either lying to you about trying to win the election, lying to us about being a libertarian, or terribly misinformed. As far as we’re concerned, elections are a bad thing. We’re trying to end them, not win them.

The nature of the State is to make false promises to bait support from the people it victimizes. They promise to protect you from boogeymen, they promise to solve your economic problems, they promise to carry out the will of your deity. We see this as completely ridiculous, we know it will fail, and we know that most people are stupid enough to swallow it hook line and sinker, so we can’t compete with it in a popular vote.

Libertarians are anarchists, whether they realize it or not. Even the ones who are delusional enough to think that they are going to get elected and restore the bloody republic, are little more than useful idiots who are repeating anarchist propaganda for us through channels normally reserved for government. The goal is not to win your elections, the goal is to turn a large enough minority against the legitimacy of the State as to make its continued function impossible. So there’s absolutely no incentive to work with you in promoting candidates, which is the primary function of your political activity. You’re right when you say “No candidate is good enough” for us, no matter who runs for office we will tear him down because nobody has the right to be our ruler.
https://christophercantwell.com/2014/04/08/top-10-reasons-libertarians-arent-nice/

As far as I'm concerned Trumps job is done. He drove a stake into the heart of the hildebeest.
Even dims are done with her.

 

[Phantasmal]

Hillary lost. America rejected Hillary.

No, the popular vote supported her, the electoral college elected her. It’s the way our government works, but you can not in all honesty say Trump was voted in by the popular vote. There is a difference, sadly.

 

[Cypress]

No, the popular vote supported her, the electoral college elected her. It’s the way our government works, but you can not in all honesty say Trump was voted in by the popular vote. There is a difference, sadly.

Always worth reminding the right wing that the American voters, wisely, chose Hillary Clinton by millions of votes.

I always make it a point to tell my foreign relatives that the American voter actually made the right choice in voting for Hillary Clinton, and that the popular vote losing and historically unpopular Trump was allowed to walk into the office of the presidency by a fluke of the archaic and undemocratic electoral college.