Brits to be inundated with ' putrefying stockpiles of rubbish ' after Brexit.

[lisasanders1964]

"1. The President would be appointed by the state governors, with New York, California and Texas having the biggest and usually decisive say."


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liberal dictatorship
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Do you know what would MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN? If all the blue states just seceded from the union. And since you agree that the 2 biggest blue states leave, I am sure you won't have a problem with this.

 

[moon]

There could be another 400 trucks per day driving round looking for landfill, which is increasingly hard to find and comes at a cost not just to the environment but to councils and businesses too.

Inevitably, that would be passed on to customers and taxpayers. Some councils may even need to cut back on what they collect.

https://www.itv.com/news/2018-08-22/waste-management-industry-braced-for-no-deal-brexit/

Haw, haw......haw.
EVERY extra Brexit cost is going to be passed on to the morons that voted for it.

 

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Haw, haw......haw.
EVERY extra Brexit cost is going to be passed on to the morons that voted for it.

The EU imposes a landfill tax on the UK set at £80 per tonne, once we leave this can be done away with or drastically reduced.

 

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This is the authentic voice of the EU, they've never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. They will be made to see that we don't take kindly to that kind of shit.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

The progressive American Union would have a common currency, with an exchange rate highly advantageous to the important states (New York, California and Texas, see above). Unfortunately this could have the side-effect of causing economic stagnation and massive structural unemployment in some of the poorer states, because they couldn't devalue. This problem might be addressed at some point in the future, possibly before the important states own everything. Meanwhile ...

Das Projekt über alles!

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-unemployment-so-high-in-Southern-Europe

 

[moon]

11 Brexit promises the government quietly dropped

Leaving aside the £350m for the NHS, Brexit has promised quick and easy trade deals with the EU and the rest of the world, an end to ECJ jurisdiction and free movement, and British control of North Sea fishing. None of this has come to pass. Here are 11 key abandoned claims

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...28/11-brexit-promises-leavers-quietly-dropped

......or you can drink maggot-piss. Haw, haw..........haw.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Do you know what would MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN? If all the blue states just seceded from the union. And since you agree that the 2 biggest blue states leave, I am sure you won't have a problem with this.

Why would real Americans want to just hand over all that land, when you all could just move to Venezuela.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

It's astonishing how the British establishment has continued down this disastrous road when there is such a good exit strategy. Polls indicate that the majority of Brits favor a second referendum, and would vote remain if presented with the choice. The original Brexit vote was made in a state of abject ignorance, as Brexit proponents lied through their teeth about what it would mean ... Why not have another vote? The refusal of British power players like May to do that, even in the face of looming disaster, suggests that they may have made personal investments that will only pay off if Brexit happens.

I'm sorry, I don't recognize your cast of heroes and villains. The 'British Establisment' - civil service, parliament, big business, academia - was overwhelmingly opposed to Brexit, and to a large extent still is. If there was any way of averting it with a shred of credibility, they would.

Here's a good one:
"The European Union has been the greatest dream realised for human beings since the fall of the Western Roman Empire"
-- the Archbishop of Canterbury (I'm not making this up).

Otoh some leftists, notably Jeremy Corbyn and his mentor the late leftwing icon Tony Benn, always favored leaving the EU. Were they in a state of abject ignorance or lying through their teeth? Maybe ...

So consider this middle-of-the-road Tory MP who voted Remain, but is now working to uphold the outcome of the 2016 referendum, NOT call another one:

"I voted Remain in 2016 and don’t regret it. But I wasn’t on the winning side. I’ve spent the last 31 months listening to why so many people voted for change. And having watched the UK’s exit negotiations over that time, my view is that we would, at some point, due to our geography, our history and our wider relationships with the world, have reached a position where the UK and the EU were bound to see their futures very differently. Once I had accepted that, I was clear that the UK would be leaving the EU."
-- Nicky Morgan, MP (Con).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...st-remainer-friends-backed-brexit-compromise/

 

[moon]

Haw, haw..........haw.

 

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I'm sorry, I don't recognize your cast of heroes and villains. The 'British Establisment' - civil service, parliament, big business, academia - was overwhelmingly opposed to Brexit, and to a large extent still is. If there was any way of averting it with a shred of credibility, they would.

Here's a good one:
"The European Union has been the greatest dream realised for human beings since the fall of the Western Roman Empire"
-- the Archbishop of Canterbury (I'm not making this up).

Otoh some leftists, notably Jeremy Corbyn and his mentor the late leftwing icon Tony Benn, always favored leaving the EU. Were they in a state of abject ignorance or lying through their teeth? Maybe ...

So consider this middle-of-the-road Tory MP who voted Remain, but is now working to uphold the outcome of the 2016 referendum, NOT call another one:

"I voted Remain in 2016 and don’t regret it. But I wasn’t on the winning side. I’ve spent the last 31 months listening to why so many people voted for change. And having watched the UK’s exit negotiations over that time, my view is that we would, at some point, due to our geography, our history and our wider relationships with the world, have reached a position where the UK and the EU were bound to see their futures very differently. Once I had accepted that, I was clear that the UK would be leaving the EU."
-- Nicky Morgan, MP (Con).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...st-remainer-friends-backed-brexit-compromise/

Corbyn has so pissed off many Labour party supporters that they are leaving in droves. I am only surprised that it's taken so long.

 

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Good old Nige sticks it to the pompous popinjays in Brussels

BREXIT BREAKTHROUGH: Farage reveals VERY SIMPLE way to avoid chaos for BOTH EU and UK

A GROUNDBREAKING plan to avoid financial chaos if the UK leaves the European Union without a deal has been revealed by Nigel Farage in Brussels.

“There is an appreciation in Britain that unelected bureaucrats in Brussels have been talking down to, humiliating the Prime Minister of our nation and we don’t like it and even when she comes back, trying to be reasonable.

“The reason that a no-deal Brexit has got a little bit closer is because of the sheer language and attitude, not just in the Commission but from many in the Parliament towards the United Kingdom.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...ews-no-deal-trade-eu-nigel-farage-brexit-deal

 

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Italy could very well be next!!


ITALEXIT? Italy to CRASH OUT of Euro and 'rock EU to its foundations' claims economist

ITALY has fallen back into recession with its economy shrinking by 0.2% in the last quarter, causing economists such as Roger Bootle to suggest that it may default or exit from the euro.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...euro-banking-crisis-eu-roger-bootle-economist

 

[moon]

Isn't it always the case that miscreants caught out will always seek to implicate somebody else.

 

[Oneuli]

So what do you suggest best out of three, or five even?

No. I'm saying that before making a huge and probably irreversible move, you consider the fact that enough people have recognized their error that they wouldn't vote to leave if given the chance. The first vote was conducted in ignorance. Now people know better what Brexit really means. Why not have another vote?

.... we are not Ireland or Norway.

Sadly, that's true. The Irish and Norwegians have much higher rates of productivity than the Brits. But, still, polls suggest the majority of Brits don't want to leave the EU. Why should the elite force them to leave anyway?

There is no real appetite for one....

Perhaps in your bubble, that's true. But polls say that the majority of Brits favor a second referendum and favor remaining.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...majority-of-uk-wants-second-brexit-referendum

https://www.politico.eu/article/bre...ying-in-eu-at-highest-level-since-referendum/

Your elite, like May, are dead set against the idea of letting the people have their way on this.

it would solve nothing indeed I suggest that there would be an even bigger vote for Brexit

Polls suggest otherwise.

I am more than happy for a no deal Brexit, if the EU continues being so intransigent. Just see how long it takes before the German car industry which exports 850,000 cars to the UK each year. Indeed we are their biggest export market. Same goes for French Champagne houses, again we are their biggest export market. There is also French cheeses, Belgian chocolates and Italian Prosecco to name just a few. We have a trade deficit of £70 billion with the EU, do you think they'll be affected?

From the outside, the British blubbering about this has been fun to watch. They seemed to imagine that the EU just couldn't live without them, and that they could Brexit and yet still maintain all the bits about the deal they liked. Then the EU, which will still be the biggest trade block on the planet without the UK, told them no. Brits aren't used to being told "no." Somewhere in the backs of their minds, they still imagine they're the leaders of a great empire and that people will bow and scrape to them. But Europe needs the UK far less than the UK needs Europe, so the Brits found they just don't have the bargaining power they imagined they had. Brussels is basically saying "good riddance to bad rubbish."

...maybe she should read up on what happened the last time the Germans tried to impose their will on the Brits.

Do you mean the time the Americans had to swoop in and save your sorry asses? I don't see that happening this time.... there's no appetite over here to open the doors to a US/UK trade deal similar to what the UK is giving up with Europe.

 

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No. I'm saying that before making a huge and probably irreversible move, you consider the fact that enough people have recognized their error that they wouldn't vote to leave if given the chance. The first vote was conducted in ignorance. Now people know better what Brexit really means. Why not have another vote?



Sadly, that's true. The Irish and Norwegians have much higher rates of productivity than the Brits. But, still, polls suggest the majority of Brits don't want to leave the EU. Why should the elite force them to leave anyway?



Perhaps in your bubble, that's true. But polls say that the majority of Brits favor a second referendum and favor remaining.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...majority-of-uk-wants-second-brexit-referendum

https://www.politico.eu/article/bre...ying-in-eu-at-highest-level-since-referendum/

Your elite, like May, are dead set against the idea of letting the people have their way on this.



Polls suggest otherwise.



From the outside, the British blubbering about this has been fun to watch. They seemed to imagine that the EU just couldn't live without them, and that they could Brexit and yet still maintain all the bits about the deal they liked. Then the EU, which will still be the biggest trade block on the planet without the UK, told them no. Brits aren't used to being told "no." Somewhere in the backs of their minds, they still imagine they're the leaders of a great empire and that people will bow and scrape to them. But Europe need the UK far less than the UK needs Europe, so the Brits found they just don't have the bargaining power they imagined they had. Burssels is basically saying "good riddance to bad rubbish."



Do you mean the time the Americans had to swoop in and save your sorry asses? I don't see that happening this time.... there's no appetite over here to open the doors to a US/UK trade deal similar to what the UK is giving up with Europe.

Sorry but that's unadulterated bullshit, we had interminable discussions on TV, radio, online and in newspapers, many months before the referendum. If you want to find out what Brexit is all about then watch Tony Benn excoriating the EU back in 2007. As the great man said, that the idea that you're only in favour of Democracy if you know that you're going to win is completely wrong. Your bullshit about the elites wanting to leave is just totally crazy, the exact opposite is true, most of the MPs, Civil Service and the so called 'great and the good' are vehemently against leaving. Where do you get your information from? I live in England don't you think I might know more than you on the subject?

I might also add that Ted Heath didn't hold a referendum to take us into the Common Market, as it was known back then. Labour held a referendum in 1975, which I voted yes, and have regretted it ever since. So spare me your arrogant 'we know better' crap, there are enough of your type over here, thanks all the same!!

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[iolo]

I'm sorry, I don't recognize your cast of heroes and villains. The 'British Establisment' - civil service, parliament, big business, academia - was overwhelmingly opposed to Brexit, and to a large extent still is. If there was any way of averting it with a shred of credibility, they would.

Here's a good one:
"The European Union has been the greatest dream realised for human beings since the fall of the Western Roman Empire"
-- the Archbishop of Canterbury (I'm not making this up).

Otoh some leftists, notably Jeremy Corbyn and his mentor the late leftwing icon Tony Benn, always favored leaving the EU. Were they in a state of abject ignorance or lying through their teeth? Maybe ...

So consider this middle-of-the-road Tory MP who voted Remain, but is now working to uphold the outcome of the 2016 referendum, NOT call another one:

"I voted Remain in 2016 and don’t regret it. But I wasn’t on the winning side. I’ve spent the last 31 months listening to why so many people voted for change. And having watched the UK’s exit negotiations over that time, my view is that we would, at some point, due to our geography, our history and our wider relationships with the world, have reached a position where the UK and the EU were bound to see their futures very differently. Once I had accepted that, I was clear that the UK would be leaving the EU."
-- Nicky Morgan, MP (Con).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...st-remainer-friends-backed-brexit-compromise/

The socialist case against the EU was always simple: it was a capitalist club that would prevent our building socialism here. As the UK moved closer to a sort of tory fascism the EU's protection of workers' rights grew more attractive, and in the view of many of us, it will be easier to shift a large economy in favour of the working majority than it will in a silly, muddled little island that lives in a fantasised past. Obviously, everyone here is going to be hugely worse off, and it is beginning to make sensible people angry to see these brainwashed zombies threatening their families' futures.

 

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The socialist case against the EU was always simple: it was a capitalist club that would prevent our building socialism here. As the UK moved closer to a sort of tory fascism the EU's protection of workers' rights grew more attractive, and in the view of many of us, it will be easier to shift a large economy in favour of the working majority than it will in a silly, muddled little island that lives in a fantasised past. Obviously, everyone here is going to be hugely worse off, and it is beginning to make sensible people angry to see these brainwashed zombies threatening their families' futures.

Good old Dennis Skinner, I have always admired his principles even if I didn't agree much of the time. Of course the scum in the Labour Party are already attacking him!!

 

[Oneuli]

Sorry but that's unadulterated bullshit, we had interminable discussions on TV, radio, online and in newspapers, many months before the referendum.

Yes. And the Brexit supporters spewed all sorts of nonsense about all the money it would free up for healthcare, etc. Now people know better, and it has turned a clear majority against Brexit. The majority wants to vote again. Why should the elite deny them that right?

Where do you get your information from?

Reading.

I live in England don't you think I might know more than you on the subject?

Obviously not. You weren't even aware that a clear majority of Brits favored a second referendum (either that or you were aware but chose to lie and say there wasn't an appetite for one. Only you know for sure which it was.)

 

[Micawber]

They need something good to happen. England is stalled on existential despair for 109 years

 

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Yes. And the Brexit supporters spewed all sorts of nonsense about all the money it would free up for healthcare, etc. Now people know better, and it has turned a clear majority against Brexit. The majority wants to vote again. Why should the elite deny them that right

Obviously not. You weren't even aware that a clear majority of Brits favored a second referendum (either that or you were aware but chose to lie and say there wasn't an appetite for one. Only you know for sure which it was.)

Oh I give up, you're just full of shit. Remoaners spouted shedloads of bollocks about Brexit, even the Canadian governor of the Bank of England Mark Carney joined in with Project Fear. Oh and don't forgot Obama, Clinton, Legarde all weighing as well.