BREAKING: Impeachment is ON

[Gonzomin]

Hey, libs, where ARE you on this one? All I hear is "crickets".........

Start a thread on it. This isn't it.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Explain the logic of how impeaching Trump will get him re-elected because I don't get it.

Because being pond scum isn’t a legitimate reason to impeach. The reasons are;

#1. No credible evidence yet has been provided that Trump has committed an impeachable high crime or misdemeanor.

#2. The general public does not support it and views it as a political witch hunt.

#3. An impeachment vote in the house and a trial in the senate would be on partisan lines.

#4. The Senate would not convict as it is majority Republican.

#5. It sets a horrible partisan precedent as did the Clinton impeachment.

#6. There would be political blow back to the party that shuts down government for a partisan shit fight that doesn’t have general public support.

 

[Getin the ring]

Start a thread on it. This isn't it.

ahhh, poor baby doesn't want to talk about another FAIL

that's ok cupcake, no one is even laughing at you nut**bags anymore, it's gone past that now.. it's pity

 

[Terri4Trump]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1176539782861729792

LIAR!

This thread was exposed as a LIE yesterday.

Impeachment proceedings require a full house floor vote on a resolution. That never happened and it is not scheduled to happen.

The OP is once again a hack Nazi LIAR

 

[Bigdog]

Explain the logic of how impeaching Trump will get him re-elected because I don't get it.

"December 20, 1998
Web posted at: 10:48 p.m. EST (0348 GMT)
(AllPolitics, December 20) -- In the wake of the House of Representatives' approval of two articles of impeachment, Bill Clinton's approval rating has jumped 10 points to 73 percent, the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows.

That's not only an all-time high for Clinton, it also beats the highest approval rating President Ronald Reagan ever had.

At the same time, the number of Americans with an unfavorable view of the Republican Party has jumped 10 points; less than a third of the country now has a favorable view of the GOP."

https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/20/impeachment.poll/

 

[PoliTalker]

Good stuff, rg:

Rudy Giuliani’s contacts with officials at the State Department as part of his controversial efforts to dig up dirt on Joe Biden in Ukraine are more extensive than have been publicly reported. And they raise additional questions about the degree to which senior officials throughout the Trump administration were involved in—or privy to—attempts by the president to muddy a top potential political opponent.

Over the course of the past year, Giuliani has participated in a far-flung campaign by Trump allies to unearth damaging information about Biden and his son Hunter. As part of that effort, Giuliani pressed the Ukrainian government to investigate so-far unfounded allegations of corruption in the country involving the Bidens. At the time, Hunter Biden was accused of using his father’s political standing to secure lucrative business opportunities abroad. Ukraine’s prosecutor general would subsequently say he had no evidence of any wrongdoing.

This summer, Giuliani briefed U.S. diplomats, including special representative for Ukraine Kurt Volker, on his work in Ukraine and his efforts to convince the administration of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate the Bidens. But Giuliani confirmed to The Daily Beast that he also briefed another diplomat: U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland. President Trump’s lawyer said that he briefed both Volker (who he referred to as the “main one” in terms of his State contacts) and Sondland on multiple conference calls earlier this year about his progress in pursuing a Ukraine investigation.

It wasn’t exactly an unknown topic for Sondland. The ambassador was also closely involved with the Trump phone call to Zelensky in which Trump repeatedly pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate the Bidens.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/impea...oped-into-rudy-giulianis-quest-to-smear-biden

The plot thickens:

"They weren’t the only senior members of the Trump administration brought into the president’s efforts to use a foreign government to squeeze a political foe. According to The Washington Post, Trump ordered Mick Mulvaney, his acting chief of staff and director of the Office of Management and Budget, to hit pause on hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid for Ukraine—just days before a now-infamous July phone call between Trump and Zelensky. Mulvaney’s OMB deputies then directed officials at the Departments of Defense and State not to distribute the military aid.

Giuliani’s work on Ukraine began months earlier. The Trump attorney’s work, done with the president’s explicit blessing, involved chasing leads on possible origins of the Mueller investigation. It eventually led to his attempts to dig up dirt on the Biden family. This was all happening as Trump was preparing to head into a presidential election year, with Trump and his advisers viewing Biden, the 2020 Democratic frontrunner, as a prominent political enemy.

Giuliani was planning to travel to Ukraine in May to look into allegations of corruption involving the Bidens there. The trip was pulled. But the president’s lawyer met up with Andrei Yermak, a close adviser to Zelensky, in Spain last month. It was before that meeting that Giuliani said the department reached out to him and requested that he take a call with Yermak. And after the meeting, Giuliani told The Daily Beast he briefed Volker and Sondland."


https://www.thedailybeast.com/impea...oped-into-rudy-giulianis-quest-to-smear-biden

 

[Micawber]

Because being pond scum isn’t a legitimate reason to impeach. The reasons are;

#1. No credible evidence yet has been provided that Trump has committed an impeachable high crime or misdemeanor.

#2. The general public does not support it and views it as a political witch hunt.

#3. An impeachment vote in the house and a trial in the senate would be on partisan lines.

#4. The Senate would not convict as it is majority Republican.

#5. It sets a horrible partisan precedent as did the Clinton impeachment.

#6. There would be political blow back to the party that shuts down government for a partisan shit fight that doesn’t have general public support.

The Clinton impeachment was a just result for the offense. He perjured himself, but did so under great duress as to tell the truth would be to tell Hillary he
was fucking Monica. So he lied under oath, (albeit about an immaterial and ancillary aspect of star's completely partisan and retrospective investigation of acts long predating the presidency) and for that he should have been impeached but not convicted. I believe that was the result.

Here, Trump is a serial criminal and he has committed impeachable offenses of obstruction, political corruption and abuse of authority in offie. He should be impeached
and removed but a traitorous and cowardly Republican maj in the house will not, and so they are complicit. The comparison is therefore thin at best.No matter, we will record
his impeachment and Trump will be drummed out of office in an electoral bloodbath, and his presidency will be a stain on the history of this country and be remembered as
the most failed presidency in history. Trump's presidency tracks Nixon's far more closely, as the offenses are proximate to and related to job function.
That said, Nixon was reelected, but this scandal is far more accelerated at the same point in time. We are all convinced of Trump's shady dirty tricks already, the election still
more than a year out.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

The Clinton impeachment was a just result for the offense. He perjured himself, but did so under great duress as to tell the truth would be to tell Hillary he
was fucking Monica. So he lied under oath, and for that he should have been impeached but not convicted. I believe that was the result.

Here, Trump is a serial criminal and he has committed impeachable offenses of obstruction, political corruption and abuse of authority. He should be impeached
and removed but a traitorous and cowardly Republican maj in the house will not, and so they are complicit. The comparison is therefore thin at best.

Fine, lay out the evidence for those crimes and misdemeanors in an objective and nonpartisan way and if they arise to the level of a high crime and misdemeanor than I’m on board but if it proceeds as a partisan witch hunt, as with Clinton, then the impeachment will fail and political blow back will be the result.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Like I said: Every Liberal hack in this forum was exposed as a LIAR yesterday when they said Impeachment is proceeding

An impeachment proceeding formally begins with a resolution adopted by the full House of Representatives, which includes a referral to a House committee. A simple majority of those present and voting is required for each article for the resolution as a whole to pass.

Nancy Pelosi as usual was a LIAR when she said Impeachment is proceeding.

 

[Bigdog]

under great duress as to tell the truth would be to tell Hillary he
was fucking Monica. So he lied under oath, .

Oh pleez, the Old Hillbag let him fuck anything that walked.

 

[Micawber]

Fine, lay out the evidence for those crimes and misdemeanors in an objective and nonpartisan way and if they arise to the level of a high crime and misdemeanor than I’m on board but if it proceeds as a partisan witch hunt, as with Clinton, then the impeachment will fail and political blow back will be the result.

Mueller laid it out the past in painstaking detail and this most recent episode is cut and dried. All the materials are readily available and you have likely already reviewed them at one time or another
over the past two years from Stormy payoff checks through Trump's request for Russia to find Hillary's private mail through the instant case of using my tax dollars (not his as he pays no taxes) as a cudgel
to make a foreign government into a committee to reelect the president, and lying obstructing our knowledge of all of it.

 

[LV426]

#1. No credible evidence yet has been provided that Trump has committed an impeachable high crime or misdemeanor.

But Trump just admitted that he tried to extort Ukraine.

#2. The general public does not support it and views it as a political witch hunt.

Do they? Support for impeachment is higher than it was at this point during Clinton and Nixon.

#3. An impeachment vote in the house and a trial in the senate would be on partisan lines.

But that's the point. Forcing Republicans to defend Trump on the record and then using those votes against them in the election. Trump dragged down the GOP in 2018 (that saw virtually the same turnout as the Presidential election in 2016), so why wouldn't he drag them down in 2020?

#4. The Senate would not convict as it is majority Republican.

Again, that's the point. By acquitting Trump, the GOP is forced to tie their fortunes to his. So if he goes down, they go down with him, just like they did in 2018.

#5. It sets a horrible partisan precedent as did the Clinton impeachment.

What horrible precedent does it set? The one where Congress holds the Executive Branch accountable for malfeasance?

#6. There would be political blow back to the party that shuts down government for a partisan shit fight that doesn’t have general public support.

Why would the government be shut down? The government has to be open in order for an impeachment inquiry to proceed. McConnell has stopped any legislation from even getting a vote in the House. He effectively shut the government down when Democrats regained control of the House.

Also, what political blowback do you imagine? Do you seriously think Trump and the GOP has the stamina, wherewithal, temperance, and savvy to withstand an impeachment inquiry? You know he went begging to Pelosi yesterday morning to prevent this, right? Does that sound like the actions of a confident, savvy person to you?

I'm always amazed that people think Donald Trump will coolly and calmly parry impeachment by playing 18-dimensional chess, and not completely blow up the entire GOP as he tries to eat the chess pieces.

 

[LV426]

"December 20, 1998
Web posted at: 10:48 p.m. EST (0348 GMT)
(AllPolitics, December 20) -- In the wake of the House of Representatives' approval of two articles of impeachment, Bill Clinton's approval rating has jumped 10 points to 73 percent, the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows.

That's not only an all-time high for Clinton, it also beats the highest approval rating President Ronald Reagan ever had.

At the same time, the number of Americans with an unfavorable view of the Republican Party has jumped 10 points; less than a third of the country now has a favorable view of the GOP."

https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/20/impeachment.poll/

Trump is NO CLINTON.

He doesn't have the charm, the grace, or the temperance.

He went begging to Pelosi yesterday to help him out and she told him to pound sand, then he unleashed a rage tweetstorm and reflexively sent Guiliani out there which only made the situation worse.

It's starting to unravel now.

 

[Evmetro]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1176539782861729792

Impeachment has been "ON" since before Trump was even the nominee. Is this finally "it"?

 

[Bigdog]

Trump is NO CLINTON.

Thank goodness!!!

 

[LV426]

Thank goodness!!!

Yeah, that's not a good thing for you.

You're going to be toiling his baggage for the rest of your life.

 

[Earl]

Because being pond scum isn’t a legitimate reason to impeach. The reasons are;

#1. No credible evidence yet has been provided that Trump has committed an impeachable high crime or misdemeanor.

#2. The general public does not support it and views it as a political witch hunt.

#3. An impeachment vote in the house and a trial in the senate would be on partisan lines.

#4. The Senate would not convict as it is majority Republican.

#5. It sets a horrible partisan precedent as did the Clinton impeachment.

#6. There would be political blow back to the party that shuts down government for a partisan shit fight that doesn’t have general public support.

Indeed.

The American people elected him and the will of the people will prevail.

 

[Bigdog]

Yeah, that's not a good thing for you.

You're going to be toiling his baggage for the rest of your life.

Trump is the best President since George Washington.

I'm looking forward to the 10% plus gift from AOC.

 

[evince]

It's all a NOTHING BURGER, sh*thead. I can't believe that you and the other loons on this site could be SO anti-American that you hope for the downfall of a DULY elected president. Despicable and disgusting. Don't bother responding, I'm DONE with your sorry ass.

fuck off idiot russo bot hole

he will GO DOWN for his crimes


you are meaningless

 

[evince]

They cant claim Pelosi rushed to this.

they will anyway