BREAKING: Federal Judge ORDERS Trump Campaign/RNC to prove "vote by mail fraud"

tinfoil said:
Both are flawed and you say they work? You are an idiot
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You: The system doesn't work, and here's proof of mail-in ballots being rejected because of signatures.

Everyone else: But...that proves the system works because the ballots were rejected over signatures.

You: DERP DERP DERP
 
LV426 said:
Trump's own voter fraud commission, tasked with looking into exactly all these claims, FOUND NOTHING.

Report: Drumpf commission did not find widespread voter fraud
https://apnews.com/f5f6a73b2af546ee...ommission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud

So what is happening here is that you are deliberately and knowingly spreading propaganda on behalf of Trump in order to undermine the integrity of the election so that you can wholesale reject the results in 3 months.

Pathetic, transparent, shameful.

You should kill yourself. If I was as blatant a useful idiot as you, I would.
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The operative word you ignored is: did not find WIDESPREAD voter fraud

Voter fraud happens. It happens frequently. It doesn't happen on a widespread / mass scale--at least not yet.
 
LV426 said:
Ah, I think I figured you out.

So your problem isn't the means by which anyone casts a ballot, your problem is that they're casting ballots in the first place.
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Youre too stupid to deal with. Go smoke some crack and shoot a 5 year old in the head
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The operative word you ignored is: did not find WIDESPREAD voter fraud
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Ah, so all those bullshit examples you gave before, most of which are probably distorted bullshit you didn't take the time to vet because you're depressed and lazy, weren't supposed to prove your argument that there's widespread voter fraud so bad we can't do absentee voting en masse?

Then why did you post them if that wasn't your intent?

You have this nasty habit of posting something, then never answering for that thing you posted because it would belie your true intent here; which is to divide people and make everyone as miserable and depressed as you are.

How about instead of that, you fucking kill yourself?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I'm sure they'll likely start with this:

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Then maybe this



https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...t_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html#!

Or maybe this

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/no-voter-fraud-isnt-myth-10-cases-where-its-all-to/

And this

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybe...th-altering-ballots-in-2018-election-n2569417

Or, this

https://www.demos.org/sites/default/files/publications/Analysis.pdf

There's plenty of evidence voter fraud occurs and occurs frequently. No, it's not so rampant that it would change the outcome of a major election--unless the vote were close. In many state and local races--and these are important too--it is easier for fraud to change the outcome as the total number of votes is much smaller meaning even small amounts of fraud can result in bigger changes.
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- 1,290? Holy shit!
- 28 million ballots not returned in 6 years. So? The article days: “ Although there is no evidence that the millions of missing ballots were used fraudulently...”
- Your 3rd article: “ The truth is that while there is no evidence of widespread and systemic abuses...”
- You’re 4th article: “ Overall, the disfranchisement of voters through antiquated voting systems, errors, mismanagement of registration bases, and intimidation or harassment is a far bigger problem today than traditional forms of election fraud.“ and “ Voter fraud appears to be very rare in the 12 states examined in that report. Legal and news records turned up little evidence of significant fraud in these states or any indication that fraud is more than a minor problem. Interviews with state officials further confirmed this impression.
• Notable election reforms of the past 10 to 15 years—such as the NVRA, more permissive absentee balloting rules, all mail-in voting in Oregon, and the enactment of Election Day Registration in several more states—have not facilitated voter fraud.
• Analysis of several cases of election fraud that have received significant attention in recent years sug- gests that some of the most notable allegations of fraud have proved to be baseless.

Checkmate, dumbfuck
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Voter fraud happens. It happens frequently. It doesn't happen on a widespread / mass scale--at least not yet.
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If voter fraud happened and happens as frequently as you seem to think, why wasn't Trump's own hand-picked commission able to find even a single case of it?

Probably because "voter fraud" is nonsense, and you're terrified at the prospect of having to eat plates of shit for conducting yourself as you have the last 4 years.
 
domer76 said:
- 1,290? Holy shit!
- 28 million ballots not returned in 6 years. So? The article days: “ Although there is no evidence that the millions of missing ballots were used fraudulently...”
- Your 3rd article: “ The truth is that while there is no evidence of widespread and systemic abuses...”
- You’re 4th article: “ Overall, the disfranchisement of voters through antiquated voting systems, errors, mismanagement of registration bases, and intimidation or harassment is a far bigger problem today than traditional forms of election fraud.“ and “ Voter fraud appears to be very rare in the 12 states examined in that report. Legal and news records turned up little evidence of significant fraud in these states or any indication that fraud is more than a minor problem. Interviews with state officials further confirmed this impression.
• Notable election reforms of the past 10 to 15 years—such as the NVRA, more permissive absentee balloting rules, all mail-in voting in Oregon, and the enactment of Election Day Registration in several more states—have not facilitated voter fraud.
• Analysis of several cases of election fraud that have received significant attention in recent years sug- gests that some of the most notable allegations of fraud have proved to be baseless.

Checkmate, dumbfuck
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Exactly like I fucking said in this post here:

LV426 said:
Ah, so all those bullshit examples you gave before, most of which are probably distorted bullshit you didn't take the time to vet because you're depressed and lazy,
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Conservatives are lazy fucking assholes who don't vet their sources, and are never held to account for it.

I bet if doxxing were on the table, you would see virtually no Conservative posters on JPP.
 
domer76 said:
- 1,290? Holy shit!
- 28 million ballots not returned in 6 years. So? The article days: “ Although there is no evidence that the millions of missing ballots were used fraudulently...”
- Your 3rd article: “ The truth is that while there is no evidence of widespread and systemic abuses...”
- You’re 4th article: “ Overall, the disfranchisement of voters through antiquated voting systems, errors, mismanagement of registration bases, and intimidation or harassment is a far bigger problem today than traditional forms of election fraud.“ and “ Voter fraud appears to be very rare in the 12 states examined in that report. Legal and news records turned up little evidence of significant fraud in these states or any indication that fraud is more than a minor problem. Interviews with state officials further confirmed this impression.
• Notable election reforms of the past 10 to 15 years—such as the NVRA, more permissive absentee balloting rules, all mail-in voting in Oregon, and the enactment of Election Day Registration in several more states—have not facilitated voter fraud.
• Analysis of several cases of election fraud that have received significant attention in recent years sug- gests that some of the most notable allegations of fraud have proved to be baseless.

Checkmate, dumbfuck
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WHAT A FUCKING SHOCK! A SHITPOSTER DIDN'T BOTHER TO VET ITS SOURCES

I think the question we need to ask is why is this shitposter attacking the integrity of our elections.

That's what I want to find out.

We know TA has absolutely no stake in anything, is depressed and suicidal, so why would he be going this far with making arguments about something he has no intention of ever participating in anyway?

Is it because he's getting paid to do it?

We know he has no sincere beliefs, so something else is going on here...something nefarious.
 
LV426 said:
Ah, so all those bullshit examples you gave before, most of which are probably distorted bullshit you didn't take the time to vet because you're depressed and lazy, weren't supposed to prove your argument that there's widespread voter fraud so bad we can't do absentee voting en masse?

Then why did you post them if that wasn't your intent?

You have this nasty habit of posting something, then never answering for that thing you posted because it would belie your true intent here; which is to divide people and make everyone as miserable and depressed as you are.

How about instead of that, you fucking kill yourself?
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Nice combination of ad hominem and strawman. The OP article and post didn't mention widespread, you did. The OP article and post only addressed voter fraud.
I posted links that show cases of voter fraud or highly suspect circumstances that might be construed to be voter fraud. I never mentioned widespread because that wasn't part of the argument. You added that, making a strawman argument out of it.
 
LV426 said:
WHAT A FUCKING SHOCK! A SHITPOSTER DIDN'T BOTHER TO VET ITS SOURCES

I think the question we need to ask is why is this shitposter attacking the integrity of our elections.

That's what I want to find out.

We know TA has absolutely no stake in anything, is depressed and suicidal, so why would he be going this far with making arguments about something he has no intention of ever participating in anyway?

Is it because he's getting paid to do it?

We know he has no sincere beliefs, so something else is going on here...something nefarious.
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Judging by the volume and nastiness of your insults and ad hominem...

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Good. It's nice to know I won the argument because you have nothing to respond with except insults and ad hominem. How usual...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Nice combination of ad hominem and strawman. The OP article and post didn't mention widespread, you did. The OP article and post only addressed voter fraud.
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And the conclusion you've reached is that the instances of voter fraud are so small and insignificant, that it doesn't warrant any fears of an all-mail election, should it come to that?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Nice combination of ad hominem and strawman. The OP article and post didn't mention widespread, you did. The OP article and post only addressed voter fraud.
I posted links that show cases of voter fraud or highly suspect circumstances that might be construed to be voter fraud. I never mentioned widespread because that wasn't part of the argument. You added that, making a strawman argument out of it.
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LMAO!

So OK, so your argument has evolved to one where you will now argue that voter fraud happens, but doesn't happen a lot and not in any significant way, and because it doesn't happen a lot nor in a significant way...we can't do mail in voting because of fraud? Huh?

Your position is all over the place because you haven't taken the time to do the work.

That's because you're lazy AF.
 
LV426 said:
And the conclusion you've reached is that the instances of voter fraud are so small and insignificant, that it doesn't warrant any fears of an all-mail election, should it come to that?
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No, they warrant close scrutiny and removal of means that might increase fraud like ballot harvesting.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Judging by the volume and nastiness of your insults and ad hominem...
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I think you're full of shit.

I don't believe you have any sincere convictions or beliefs.

I think you're just someone who gets off on dividing people and making them as miserable as you.

Save us all and just off yourself already.
 
LV426 said:
LMAO!

So OK, so your argument has evolved to one where you will now argue that voter fraud happens, but doesn't happen a lot and not in any significant way, and because it doesn't happen a lot nor in a significant way...we can't do mail in voting because of fraud? Huh?

Your position is all over the place because you haven't taken the time to do the work.

That's because you're lazy AF.
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That was always my argument. And thank you for the gratuitous insult.
 
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