Boys drop shopping cart on woman 70 feet below. Jury orders mall to pay $45 M

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Text Drivers are Killers

Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
Our legal system is so corrupt. Everyone knows this is solely the fault of the boys, but they don't have money so the jury says make the rich but blameless mall pay.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/nyregion/shopping-cart-lawsuit-marion-hedges.html

june 15 2018 Nearly seven years after two boys pushed a shopping cart off a walkway at a Manhattan mall, severely injuring a woman four stories below, a jury decided to award more than $45 million to her and her family.

The woman, Marion Hedges, had just shopped for Halloween candy with her son, Dayton, then 13, at the East River Plaza Mall in East Harlem in October 2011 and was at a parking kiosk when the two boys hoisted the cart over a railing above. It plummeted more than 70 feet and struck Ms. Hedges on the head.

Ms. Hedges, a philanthropist, stopped breathing and was rushed to the hospital. She suffered serious brain damage and today she struggles with diminished cognitive abilities, double vision, incontinence and memory loss, her lawyer, Thomas Moore, said.

Court documents show that Ms. Hedges and her family sued the mall and Planned Security Service, which was under contract to secure the mall’s common areas, including the walkway where the boys pushed the shopping cart over the edge.
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You have a point, but the mall owners are still liable. They are responsible for providing a good measure of security in their establishment, and they obviously failed to do that.
 
Grumpy said:
Ever hear of fencing? Many mall parking garages use fencing of all type to protect customers from dropped or thrown objects. Ever see fencing on highway overpasses? They are there for the exact same reasons. Einstein.
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We've gave up on infrastrcture in america, so we could subsidize the aristocracy.
 
I wonder if there was a financial reward for this woman's daughter and her husband?

Mall security cameras are meant to capture pictures of things like shoplifting, not murders. But in the second day of Carmela dela Rosa's murder trial, the Tysons Corner Center cameras showed the grandmother toss her 2-year-old granddaughter over a six-story walkway to the pavement below.

The toddler died hours later.

The security camera recording was just one of two critical videos played for the jury today. The other was dela Rosa's confession to police.

Fairfax County detectives questioned the 50-year-old dela Rosa just hours after she threw Angelyn Ogdoc off the elevated walkway. In the videotape statement, a dry-eyed dela Rosa sips water as she matter-of-factly tells detective Steve Needles, "I just lost it ... I just lost my mind ... I did a terrible thing."

"What did you do that was terrible?" Needles asks.

"I dropped the baby," dela Rosa responds.

"Dropped or threw?” Needles presses.

"I threw the baby," she says.

In the videotaped statement, dela Rosa goes on to talk about her motive. She says she never liked the baby's father -- James -- and resented him because her daughter became pregnant and married young, leaving the family.

Dela Rosa says when James phoned his wife as the family had dinner at Tysons that night, it triggered something. Dela Rosa tells detectives she then formed her plan to throw the baby off the walkway.

"When you picked her up, what were you thinking?" Needles asks.

"I thought about James and then I threw her," dela Rosa says.

"Why tonight?"

"I don't know. Maybe because I haven't taken my medicine in a while."

Dela Rosa told detectives her mental condition had worsened in the months leading up to the incident and that she'd tried to kill herself twice.

The mall security video seemed to underscore the prosecution's contention that dela Rosa was not insane and coldly planned to kill little Angelyn. It shows dela Rosa carrying Angelyn as she and her husband, daughter and son start to leave the mall. When her husband tries to open the door for dela Rosa, she urges him to walk ahead. As soon as the family is out the door and onto the elevated walkway, dela Rosa's pace quickens and she walks to the rail and drops Angelyn over the side of the walkway. As the horrified family realizes what's happened and begins to rush to the ground, dela Rosa leans over the side of the rail.

Earlier in the day, the victim's father, James Ogdoc, took the stand and broke down, holding his face in his hands, when prosecutors showed him a photo of his little girl after she'd died at the hospital. The toddler's mother, Kat Ogdoc, watched tearfully from the front row before the judge called a recess to allow James to compose himself. James later testified he had a chilly relationship with dela Rosa but said she never directly expressed her hatred.

The testimony was too much for one juror. Visibly distraught and shaking, she was excused from her service.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Suspect-Told-Police-She-Killed-Granddaughter-to-Spite-Son-in-Law-130675303.html
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
HAHAHA. Hey einstein. You'd have to have cops everywhere to stop this.
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Probably would cost you less than the $45M judgment :rolleyes:

There was a history of things being thrown off these balconies at passerby's below. This was not a random incident. It just happened to have involved a shopping cart this time. And no you wouldn't need cops everywhere. You would just have to close and or heavily monitor it until the balcony was enclosed in some fashion. They could have installed temporary fencing/netting if that is what it took.
 
Kacper said:
Probably would cost you less than the $45M judgment :rolleyes:

There was a history of things being thrown off these balconies at passerby's below. This was not a random incident. It just happened to have involved a shopping cart this time. And no you wouldn't need cops everywhere. You would just have to close and or heavily monitor it until the balcony was enclosed in some fashion. They could have installed temporary fencing/netting if that is what it took.
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Pffffffffffffffffffffffffft, infrastucture to benefit the masses? This is america, we don't invest in society, we invest in the endless war economy and our aristocracy. The perps here could have showed much more imagination in my view. Perhaps if they had affixed an upside down american flag to the shopping cart. Much more symbolic that way.
 
Kacper said:
Probably would cost you less than the $45M judgment :rolleyes:

There was a history of things being thrown off these balconies at passerby's below. This was not a random incident. It just happened to have involved a shopping cart this time. And no you wouldn't need cops everywhere. You would just have to close and or heavily monitor it until the balcony was enclosed in some fashion. They could have installed temporary fencing/netting if that is what it took.
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I have always been a fan of high voltage electric fencing. It truly is a deterrent....
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Pffffffffffffffffffffffffft, infrastucture to benefit the masses? This is america, we don't invest in society, we invest in the endless war economy and our aristocracy. The perps here could have showed much more imagination in my view. Perhaps if they had affixed an upside down american flag to the shopping cart. Much more symbolic that way.
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This is, in fact, America and when I looked at the photo of the courtyard all I could think was that is seven figures a year in potential rent money being pissed away. Square footage in NYC is not cheap.
 
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