blowing up the moon...

Can you believe this shit? We have serious economic problems but we can afford to take $75 million from tax payers to blow a hole in the moon to see if there is ice. They aren't even sure there is ice there. I could have saved a lot more and gave $78,999,999 back for the cause of making jobs for people who have none. And with the 1 dollar I kept, buy a Black Cat, go to my freezer blow it off and and for sure found that ice blew off the surface. Vote Mike Cole 2024 to get things done and have America the way it was meant to be. Some people say Obama is like Lincoln and I would have to say he is just as worthless Lincoln did nothing for this country other then free the slaves, but that wasn't out of the kindness of his heart that was to stop the French from helping the south and then he attacked innocent people trying to leave a corrupt gov't and people followed him but don't fall to the same ways America, let your gov't know we own them, they work for us! Make them get pay cuts! They make hundreds of thousands a year but yet they charge taxes taking from the poor. Fuck that, we don't need change we need reformation! Vote Mike Cole 2024. If I want to be compared to anyone it would be Thomas Jefferson now that is a man of the people.
 
Can you believe this shit? We have serious economic problems but we can afford to take $75 million from tax payers to blow a hole in the moon to see if there is ice.

Which would be useful for the moon base.

They aren't even sure there is ice there. I could have saved a lot more and gave $78,999,999 back for the cause of making jobs for people who have none.

Let's see, 75 million dollars, 300 million Americans, that's an entire quarter. Totally worth ending space exploration.

And with the 1 dollar I kept, buy a Black Cat, go to my freezer blow it off and and for sure found that ice blew off the surface.

Get it too the moon and we'll talk.

Vote Mike Cole 2024 to get things done and have America the way it was meant to be.

Hello mr. platitude.

Some people say Obama is like Lincoln and I would have to say he is just as worthless Lincoln did nothing for this country other then free the slaves,

Troll?
 
PMP, you are just ignorant, and you have no understanding of science. Our schools have failed us, for pumping out child-adults like you.

I'm sorry, WM.....I find it hard to take your opinion seriously.....you're simply too friggin' stupid.......I have an excellent understanding of science.....I also have an excellent understanding of right/wrong.....and it strikes me as wrong to make a five mile wide crack in the moon even if we can.....it also strikes me as wrong to spend this money or the money for a moonbase when unemployment is as high as it is....finally, it strikes me as wrong that you breath through your mouth.....
 
I'm sorry, WM.....I find it hard to take your opinion seriously.....you're simply too friggin' stupid.......I have an excellent understanding of science.....I also have an excellent understanding of right/wrong.....and it strikes me as wrong to make a five mile wide crack in the moon even if we can.....it also strikes me as wrong to spend this money or the money for a moonbase when unemployment is as high as it is....finally, it strikes me as wrong that you breath through your mouth.....

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So we should kill the space program because we have high unemployment?

Now we have educated scientists unemployed so we can put laborers to work....doing what exactly?



These projects almost always sound loony until they discover something. This is just another step in our journey to space. This is one of the few worthwhile uses of our tax dollars. It expands out knowledge of the universe. It employs lots of people. And it leads somewhere in the future.
 
So we should kill the space program because we have high unemployment?

Now we have educated scientists unemployed so we can put laborers to work....doing what exactly?



These projects almost always sound loony until they discover something. This is just another step in our journey to space. This is one of the few worthwhile uses of our tax dollars. It expands out knowledge of the universe. It employs lots of people. And it leads somewhere in the future.

I'm all for the space program, really. But ice on the moon? RIGHT now? This can wait 5 years.
 
I'm all for the space program, really. But ice on the moon? RIGHT now? This can wait 5 years.

And in 5 years they will say it can wait 5 more, and 5 more.

There have been people screaming that the money spent on NASA should be used elsewhere since I can remember.

The 2009 federal budget includes $515.4 billion dollars for the Dept of Defense. NASA's budget for teh same time period is $17.4 billion.

Rather than shut down NASA, why not cut the military's budget by 5%?

That would save us over $25 billion.
 
I'm sorry, WM.....I find it hard to take your opinion seriously.....you're simply too friggin' stupid.......

Good argument.

I have an excellent understanding of science.....I also have an excellent understanding of right/wrong.....

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and it strikes me as wrong to make a five mile wide crack in the moon even if we can.....

Comets do it all the time. The moon doesn't mind, I promise you. I also know that if we don't find water up there it's going to cost a hell of a lot more to ship it all there.

it also strikes me as wrong to spend this money or the money for a moonbase when unemployment is as high as it is....

The old "times are bad so we have to suspend all science funding" argument. If anything, science funding is one of the best ways to BOOST the economy and employment.
 
Although, honestly, I'm not really too keen on the moon base. I think it's just going to cost a lot of money, have practically no scientific value, and do very little to advance space exploration. Sort of like the ISS. Man made missions simply have little practical scientific value. And missions like the ISS and the Moon Base are basically just make work projects for space exploration so that we can pretend we're doing something serious.

A space-base does have a great deal of utility for humans, though. If humanity gets wiped out on Earth, then that means we can keep on. However, it's going to take a century or so of large funding to get enough people there so that we have a decent stable from a genetic point of view. And the moon isn't the best location for such a base because there are a number of doomsday scenarios that would put anyone on the moon in jeopardy as well.

IMHO, if we're not establishing a permanent Mars base we may as well not be wasting the money.
 
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Although, honestly, I'm not really too keen on the moon base. I think it's just going to cost a lot of money, have practically no scientific value, and do very little to advance space exploration. Sort of like the ISS. Man made missions simply have little practical scientific value. And missions like the ISS and the Moon Base are basically just make work projects for space exploration so that we can pretend we're doing something serious.

A space-base does have a great deal of utility for humans, though. If humanity gets wiped out on Earth, then that means we can keep on. However, it's going to take a century or so of large funding to get enough people there so that we have a decent stable from a genetic point of view. And the moon isn't the best location for such a base because there are a number of doomsday scenarios that would put anyone on the moon in jeopardy as well.

IMHO, if we're not establishing a permanent Mars base we may as well not be wasting the money.

The moon base goes along with the space station in getting us out there. Most of the energy in space flight is getting us out of our own atmosphere. Once we get out into space, the trips get cheaper and easier.
 
Comets do it all the time. The moon doesn't mind, I promise you. I also know that if we don't find water up there it's going to cost a hell of a lot more to ship it all there.

the government won't even let the farmers of California open a sluice gate to find the water they need for their crops because of the negative impact on the environment of some minor variant of minnow but we can blow open a five mile wide crack in the moon because it would be too expensive to haul water to a place we don't even need to be......

let me take a wild guess....you're a liberal, right?.....
 
the government won't even let the farmers of California open a sluice gate to find the water they need for their crops because of the negative impact on the environment of some minor variant of minnow but we can blow open a five mile wide crack in the moon because it would be too expensive to haul water to a place we don't even need to be......

let me take a wild guess....you're a liberal, right?.....

If you cannot tell the difference between not screwing up a natural environment by destroying the interlinked animals that live there, and blowing a hole in a rock that has no recorded life forms at all, you should stick to other topics.


That minor variant of a minnow may be a key part of an ecosystem. The only way to know for sure is to destroy it and see if the ecosystem suffers. Not exactly a practical solution.

Blowing a hole in the moon is not going to have any negative impacts because there is nothing but rock (and possibly water) up there.
 
If you cannot tell the difference between not screwing up a natural environment by destroying the interlinked animals that live there, and blowing a hole in a rock that has no recorded life forms at all, you should stick to other topics.


That minor variant of a minnow may be a key part of an ecosystem. The only way to know for sure is to destroy it and see if the ecosystem suffers. Not exactly a practical solution.

Blowing a hole in the moon is not going to have any negative impacts because there is nothing but rock (and possibly water) up there.

sucks to be a scarce mineral sensitive to heat with the rare property of providing unlimited energy while curing cancer that happens to only be found in one four mile wide deposit on the moon......

in plain English....since we don't know WHAT is there, you can hardly claim it will have no impact.....
 
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