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cawacko said:
same word games you always play. Just like you said you were a college athlete but wouldn't tell us what sport unless you did it in person and when I gave you my address you won't come out. As my Texas people say you're all hat no cattle.
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It's not a word game, it's a legitimate and perfectly logical question.

If blacks were achieving before AA, why was it needed?

Seriously.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
We can ask you the same thing. Many whites have been rejected by colleges in favor of less qualified blacks.!!! Why do you support such brazen racism?
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And that's just one example, there are many. Personally, I'd be insulted if I were chosen because people felt sorry for me instead of what I had to offer. If you think about it, that kind of patronizing treatment is most racist of all.
 
The comments in this thread from the righties remind me of a circle jerk of biased morons. You know people have lived life in a dumb bubble when this is what they say. Resentment is so unbecoming but it's all they have in their whiny world. Sorry righties life is more complicated than your racist bias. People wonder why a moron like Trump can get elected in a democratic, presumably educated society, look no further than above.

http://www.mediaed.org/whitelikeme/


"...One did not have to be very bright to realize how little one could do to change one’s situation; one did not have to be abnormally sensitive to be worn down to a cutting edge by the incessant and gratuitous humiliation and danger one encountered every working day, all day long. The humiliation did not apply merely to working days, or workers; I was thirteen and was crossing Fifth Avenue on my way to the Forty-second Street library, and the cop in the middle of the street muttered as I passed him, “Why don’t you niggers stay uptown where you belong?” When I was ten, and didn’t look, certainly, any older, two policemen amused themselves with me by frisking me, making comic (and terrifying) speculations concerning my ancestry and probable sexual prowess, and, for good measure, leaving me flat on my back in one of Harlem’s empty lots. Just before and then during the Second World War, many of my friends fled into the service, all to be changed there, and rarely for the better, many to be ruined, and many to die. Others fled to other states and cities—that is, to other ghettos. Some went on wine or whiskey or the needle, and are still on it. And others, like me, fled into the church." James Baldwin http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1962/11/17/letter-from-a-region-in-my-mind

"To be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a rage almost all the time." James A. Baldwin
 
cawacko said:
same word games you always play. Just like you said you were a college athlete but wouldn't tell us what sport unless you did it in person and when I gave you my address you won't come out. As my Texas people say you're all hat no cattle.
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Still thinking I'm on your time schedule?

You gave AN address.

You seemed to overly concerned about the when.
 
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Trump Diva said:
It's not a word game, it's a legitimate and perfectly logical question.

If blacks were achieving before AA, why was it needed?

Seriously.
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I notice how he can't answer the question yet expects me to answer one without all the pertinent information.
 
midcan5 said:
The comments in this thread from the righties remind me of a circle jerk of biased morons. You know people have lived life in a dumb bubble when this is what they say. Resentment is so unbecoming but it's all they have in their whiny world. Sorry righties life is more complicated than your racist bias. People wonder why a moron like Trump can get elected in a democratic, presumably educated society, look no further than above.

http://www.mediaed.org/whitelikeme/


"...One did not have to be very bright to realize how little one could do to change one’s situation; one did not have to be abnormally sensitive to be worn down to a cutting edge by the incessant and gratuitous humiliation and danger one encountered every working day, all day long. The humiliation did not apply merely to working days, or workers; I was thirteen and was crossing Fifth Avenue on my way to the Forty-second Street library, and the cop in the middle of the street muttered as I passed him, “Why don’t you niggers stay uptown where you belong?” When I was ten, and didn’t look, certainly, any older, two policemen amused themselves with me by frisking me, making comic (and terrifying) speculations concerning my ancestry and probable sexual prowess, and, for good measure, leaving me flat on my back in one of Harlem’s empty lots. Just before and then during the Second World War, many of my friends fled into the service, all to be changed there, and rarely for the better, many to be ruined, and many to die. Others fled to other states and cities—that is, to other ghettos. Some went on wine or whiskey or the needle, and are still on it. And others, like me, fled into the church." James Baldwin http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1962/11/17/letter-from-a-region-in-my-mind

"To be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a rage almost all the time." James A. Baldwin
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When you've lived the last 8 years with you nose stuck up the butt of a social experiment President, it's easy to see you're the one living in a bubble, so to speak.
 
Trump Diva said:
And that's just one example, there are many. Personally, I'd be insulted if I were chosen because people felt sorry for me instead of what I had to offer. If you think about it, that kind of patronizing treatment is most racist of all.
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And blacks feel the same way. They know affirmative action is an insult to blacks. But they still support it because they know full well that blacks are mentally inferior and cannot get good jobs other than thru special treatment.
 
CFM said:
Still thinking I'm on your time schedule?

You gave AN address.

You seemed to overly concerned about the when.
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Because when someone says you're a bitch, give me your address I'm coming to your house if you're not afraid, they really mean I'll come sometime in the next decade or two.

Again, all hat no cattle.

This is you:

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Trump Diva said:
It's not a word game, it's a legitimate and perfectly logical question.

If blacks were achieving before AA, why was it needed?

Seriously.
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The question was are the greatest blacks inferior to you. Simple question. Nothing at all to do with AA. AA is a totally separate issue to the question that was asked.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
Affirmative action was never about helping blacks. It was about hurting whites. All liberals are white-hating racists.
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Are you dumb enough to think AA was only for blacks? Read and learn.

"...affirmative action has been quite beneficial to women, and disproportionately beneficial to white women.Women are now more likely to graduate with bachelor’s degrees and attend graduate school than men are and outnumber men on many college campuses. In 1970, just 7.6 percent of physicians in America were women; in 2002, that number had risen to 25.2 percent. But — and this is a big but — those benefits are more likely to accrue to white women than they are to women of color, and that imbalance has very real effects on employment and earnings later in life. In other words: affirmative action works, and it works way better for white women than it does for all the other women in America."
 
White women were the biggest beneficiaries of AA. TDAK is consistent at least, he doesn't think white women are much smarter than blacks.
 
Trump Diva said:
AA is germane to the topic. Why can't you answer the question?
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No it's not. Why AA was created is a seperate political question. Whether you think (leading thinking) blacks are inferior to you is not a political question. And again it speaks volumes why y'all won't answer it.
 
cawacko said:
No it's not. Why AA was created is a seperate political question. Whether you think (leading thinking) blacks are inferior to you is not a political question. And again it speaks volumes why y'all won't answer it.
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The OP does not have any question!!

You've taken diversion to a new level just to avoid answering.

That said, your silence speaks volumes.
 
Bigdog said:
Is your premise that you believe Blacks are subhuman? That even the greatest Black achievers (president, astronauts, physicists, billionaires, etc.) are your inferior?
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Right here Trump Diva. This is the question we are discussing. AA has nothing to do with this question. This is a pretty simple yes or no answer.
 
cawacko said:
Right here Trump Diva. This is the question we are discussing. AA has nothing to do with this question. This is a pretty simple yes or no answer.
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I never said that and the question wasn't asked to me. I read the OP and scrolled thru most of the rest.

Do you think AA is necessary and if so, why?
 
Trump Diva said:
I never said that and the question wasn't asked to me. I read the OP and scrolled thru most of the rest.

Do you think AA is necessary and if so, why?
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That question is what this whole discussion has been about. You know big dog asked it. You still won't answer it

Read the thread if you want to know what I think of AA.
 
cawacko said:
That question is what this whole discussion has been about. You know big dog asked it. You still won't answer it

Read the thread if you want to know what I think of AA.
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He did not ask me anything so stop pretending he did.

Perhaps he can answer the question about AA. After all, with so many black achievers, AA wasn't necessary at all.
 
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