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Thanks for the welcome back doper. I estimate that I skied about 200,000 verts during my vacation. And I rebuilt my computer and organized the garage at the cabin.
 
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Southern Man said:
Thanks for the welcome back doper. I estimate that I skied about 200,000 verts during my vacation. And I rebuilt my computer and organized the garage at the cabin.
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I smoked some dope and got several blow jobs you skinny 5'11 170 metro sexual grampaw
 
Here's some results of my reorganization.

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The federal & state gov'ts have a duty to provide a safety net for the poorest of our society.

They should not, however, meddle in the affairs of churches, marriages, and try to prevent people from over-spending.
 
Damocles said:
Where we have disagreed:
1. You believe that they should be helped before they can show need.
2. Apparently you don't always believe that it is necessary that they actually would want the help first.
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The first repossession notice is concrete evidence they need help.

1. As I mentioned before helping someone with a few months mortgage payment or setting up a plan where the government guarantees part of the mortgage in return for the bank keeping the interest rate low due to a lower risk would be a lot cheaper than watching a family lose their home and the resultant upheaval.

2. No one is forced to accept government help. Make it available and let the individual decide.

Such a plan could be implemented for first time home buyers.
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Damocles said:
Firstly, if you don't want people to assume you are saying we shouldn't help then don't ask, "Why shouldn't the government help?" I answered your question directly and without rancor. You were intellectually dishonest and I called you on it. Nobody here has suggested that there be no help, that is the imaginary monster you have created that you imagine whenever you are speaking to a republican so you can dehumanize them.

Secondly, then we have a fundamental disconnect. The measure of compassion of a society is not how quickly we force them into welfare.

Some things we have agreed on:
1. There should be a safety net. <- This one here is the part you ignored when you started asking "Why shouldn't the government help?"
2. They should be given help if they ask for it and can show need.

Where we have disagreed:
1. You believe that they should be helped before they can show need.
2. Apparently you don't always believe that it is necessary that they actually would want the help first.

Lastly, you have also failed to show how any of your suggestions would improve anything. In places where they were implemented the unemployment rate hits at or near double digits where it remains in perpetuity. That sucks, and it should never be our goal to accept such poor return.

I don't want that, even if Europeans are "content" with that serious problem. Shoot if we get close to 7% we are in a recession, if we get close to double digits people start talking depression. Our system appears to do exactly what it needs to do, it takes the people who need help the most and gives them that hand up and moves them into employment. This is a good thing. Is it perfect? No. But should it be changed to emulate other nations who have had worse results? Not just no, Hail no!
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apple0154 said:
All I can say is WOW!

I have a path approximately 18" wide from the garage door to the house access and the garden shed is full, as well. Your pictures have shamed me. :(
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LOL You should see my neighbors garage. It makes me ashamed because its cleaner than my kitchen.
 
christiefan915 said:
Now all you need to do is paint that drywall. :)
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Then the floor. I'm waiting until I get all the issues solved with the house before I do that, such as electronic cabling, tweaking HVAC, possibly some plumbing changes, etc. Plus the floor above this is developing squeaks (apparently the contractor used the wrong type of glue) so I may have to take most of the ceiling down.
 
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