big surprise, torture did not work

christiefan915 said:
Can you understand that if waterboarding really worked, they wouldn't have done it 266 times?

Show me the chain of evidence that links waterboarding to KSM giving up the info. Because according to the links, it was his relationship with one of the interrogators, not the torturers, that caused him to finally admit what he did.
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The topic is "torture".....not just waterboarding.....
There are many lesser forms of torture that don't work to some degree and that includes waterboarding....

Torture, if done without regard to physically damaging the victim always works.....one must just find what method it takes.....

Seconds after waterboarding stops, its over.....no pain...no marks....no blood...nothing broken.....only a fading memory of what it feels like to drown.....


I don't have to show you any evidence that links waterboarding to KSM giving up the info......

Panetta plainly confirmed that intelligence gained from "enhanced interrogation" led to the killing of OBL.....thats just the plain truth of the matter....

any other strawman bullshit about KSM, waterboarding, mud slinging, or anything else, is irrelevant to the above fact, and that is the crux of the

entire debate, here and now............torture works, ....more often than not.
 
bravo said:
Hilarious....our three groaners....Aoxomoxoa (Today), Rana (Today), Yurt (Yesterday)think they could hold out in the face of torture....our big heros.....

Everybody breaks....sooner or later, everybody breaks.....including your three pinheads.....

you wouldn't hold out for an hour.....one or two broken bones, one or two teeth drilled into, one or two fingernails removed with a pair of plyers, you all



would be singing like larks......torture works, sooner or later.....
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Current military protocols on the matter say otherwise. Plus its kinda illegal.
 
Gatorman said:
You would be correct that torture produces unreliable information and that KSM developed a friendship with one of his guards that ultimately led to his confessions and information sharing. Torture advocates cannot prove that torture works so they make shit up. Fuck'em. Given the opportunity I would gladly torture them and I despise the concept if you get my drift.
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And I would bet you're the kind on nutjob lunatic, asshole that would enjoy it too.....

Victims soon learn that unreliable information earns them the pain of torture, real physical pain....after that fact is learned....lies are few.....
I'm sure you, being a big tough moron would be immune to the pain and would never break, right.
 
And it is not something that any decent American would ever consider. We are better than that and that is our strength, not any weakness.
 
bravo said:
And I would bet you're the kind on nutjob lunatic, asshole that would enjoy it too.....

Victims soon learn that unreliable information earns them the pain of torture, real physical pain....after that fact is learned....lies are few.....
I'm sure you, being a big tough moron would be immune to the pain and would never break, right.
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Well, I guess you could say that I am just the kind of a nutjob lunatic asshole that would enjoy torturing you or any other of your torture loving ilk. Yep. I'm just that kind of an asshole. It's called military training, navy gay tv channel.
 
Gatorman said:
Well, I guess you could say that I am just the kind of a nutjob lunatic asshole that would enjoy torturing you or any other of your torture loving ilk. Yep. I'm just that kind of an asshole. It's called military training, navy gay tv channel.
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I really didn't need your conformation. Your being a nutjob asshole (or that take is up there) is pretty obvious to all of us......and your obsession with Poet, our resident homo, tells us more about you than you imagine.....not that theres anything wrong with being queer.....I'm not intolerant....I've had my diversity classes in the past....
 
bravo said:
I really didn't need your conformation. Your being a nutjob asshole (or that take is up there) is pretty obvious to all of us......and your obsession with Poet, our resident homo, tells us more about you than you imagine.....not that theres anything wrong with being queer.....I'm not intolerant....I've had my diversity classes in the past....
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Calling on yurt and voltaire to defend this crap.
 
bravo said:
I really didn't need your conformation. Your being a nutjob asshole (or that take is up there) is pretty obvious to all of us......and your obsession with Poet, our resident homo, tells us more about you than you imagine.....not that theres anything wrong with being queer.....I'm not intolerant....I've had my diversity classes in the past....
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I've heard a lot about you lonely navy boyz. How do you like it? Kinda rough? Up the ass? Down the throat? Either or one after the other, irrespective? When you say "us" just who is "us"? I think you have imaginary friends.
 
Gatorman said:
I've heard a lot about you lonely navy boyz. How do you like it? Kinda rough? Up the ass? Down the throat? Either or one after the other, irrespective? When you say "us" just who is "us"? I think you have imaginary friends.
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How about you defend this crap, Christiefan.....
 
Gatorman said:
I've heard a lot about you lonely navy boyz. How do you like it? Kinda rough? Up the ass? Down the throat? Either or one after the other, irrespective? When you say "us" just who is "us"? I think you have imaginary friends.
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You think ?

Hear that?.....Thats the sound of nobody caring wtf you think.
 
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