Big night for Democrats!

Obama_Phone said:
so you subscribe to the narcissistic mother complex?

If mama aint happy, nobody's happy?

ha ha ha. so funny.

this terrifying refrain is actually cross-stitched and put on throw pillows in the parlor.

:truestory:

mgtow for the win.
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I totally get that is a how a stupid person would read what i said.

If you find it wrong that a mother should be the one to decide whether or not her fetus develops into a child without violence forced upon her to end if, and think that nonsense, then you be you.
 
TOP said:
Not even close...;)
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So you are on the side with Obama's phone arguing that if woman with a Fetus in her wants to allow it to develop into a child any third party should legally be allowed to use violence on her to end that pregnancy.

Cool.
 
TOP said:
View attachment 25743 there are stories for every occasion ..powerful...right?
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No one is arguing there are not stories on all sides of all issues EXCEPT FOR YOU.


You keep denying the existence of stories of how these Magat abortion laws are doing real harm to women who want to have babies and even when presented with those cases, where you can watch a link and see the women testify in their own words, you just stick your fingers in your ears saying 'nah... nah... nah.. not listening. I still do not acknowledge this is happening' as it does not fit the world view you want to hold.

If you recognize you are harming mothers who actually want to have children that makes it more difficult for you to feel pious and in the right. So you are not going to allow that to seep in to your information base.
 
QP! said:
Yes.

Only the woman can ultimately choose to terminate a fetus that will eventually become a child.

If she wants to keep that Fetus and allow it to develop into a baby, society recognizes rightly that anyone who kills that Fetus within her, against her will is not only killing her Fetus, but is killing the Child she was allowing to develop within her.

This is not unique in law.

If i enter a construction site, i am barred from entering, because i oppose the big new project being built, and I deliberately destroy all of the construction materials, I am not just liable for the cost of the materials, but also for the cost incurred and damage to the yet to be finished (born) project. Even though the new building does not exist yet the law can and does recognize the future harm i have done.

If those same construction materials were just sitting in a yard idle and not ear marked for any use, and i destroyed them I would only be liable for that specific damage.


so this big attempt at a gotcha religious nuts always try, falls flat. The law can and should recognize the mothers view on the future viability (or not) of a Fetus as she decided if a zygote will be allowed to develop into something that is protected.
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You have a lovely way with words. This is an excellent analogy.
 
TOP said:
This is priceless...;)
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Yes, it is. It's one of the most excellent analogies/rebuttal to a typical forced-birther argument that I've read either here, or elsewhere. I'm sorry you're incapable of comprehension at these higher reading levels. "Teacher," teach thyself!
 
TOP said:
If you actually believed what you wrote you would have never mentioned Trump...
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Why? I'm very familiar with those suffering from dementia and I'm not insinuating Trump is suffering from it either, he's simply still a juvenile. It's why people like you love him so much.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Almost all speakers use notes and/or a teleprompter to organize their thoughts and deliver them. So does the Bloviating Bully.

Toxic TOP does not use any news sources other than those that say what she wants to hear. Fox and others take clips of Biden speaking and/or walking and/or other activities, and carefully edit them to make him appear fumbling, confused, and physically frail. That's why she won't look at the speech you reference in its entirety, because the truth would burn her.
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There is no question Biden is old and moving slower but when it comes to speaking, thinking and doing things like dealing with other world leaders Trump is nothing short of embarrassing to this country compared to Biden.
 
Port Tack said:
There is no question Biden is old and moving slower but when it comes to speaking, thinking and doing things like dealing with other world leaders Trump is nothing short of embarrassing to this country compared to Biden.
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And add to that Trump is old and obese, and the latter matters at those advanced ages more than the 3 years Biden has on him.

IF Trump were to become Potus in 2024, he would be oldest POTUS in US history at the end of his term.

And if you look at Trumps decline from his Barbara Walters interview, to his run against Hillary and compare that to what we see now on the campaign trail where Trump is slurring words and constantly forgetting what city he is in or who he ran against in past elections (Obama is Biden, and Jeb Bush is GWB, etc) we can actually see Trump is declining much fast than Biden is, who has always been a gaff machine. The only thing Trump has going for him is that he just blusters and keeps going thru all his dementia moments and his cult base is too dumb to notice.

But if we were to only read transcripts of everything Trump says and Biden says, there would be no doubt, Trump is way more gone.
 
Port Tack said:
Why? I'm very familiar with those suffering from dementia and I'm not insinuating Trump is suffering from it either, he's simply still a juvenile. It's why people like you love him so much.
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I'm not sure why you think I love Trump... you're confusing me with someone else.... and we were talking about Biden not Trump... so it was unnecessary to mention him...
 
Port Tack said:
You obviously do if you have not heard of any...






If it wasn't Planned Parenthood it was a a group just like them, you must have been aghast!

And what do you mean by "you"? I'm 68 and pushing retirement with a son and daughter pushing 40. I haven't a clue what my old high school is doing.
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She doesn't either. She uses her pretend career as a bludgeon rather than a badge of honor.
 
Port Tack said:
There is no question Biden is old and moving slower but when it comes to speaking, thinking and doing things like dealing with other world leaders Trump is nothing short of embarrassing to this country compared to Biden.
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Biden appears to have surrounded himself with ethical, capable assistants, aides, and advisors -- unlike the #MalignantManChild. Yes, he is elderly and yes, we all slow down as we age. But those of us who at least try to develop wisdom as we get older are aware of our limitations and find good people/methods to compensate. Every single man we've had in the White House for long has visibly aged before our eyes, even the youthful Barack Obama whose hair was grey when he left office. It's a tribute to Biden's strength that he can withstand the stress and rigors of the world's toughest job as well as he is doing.
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Port Tack said:
You obviously do if you have not heard of any...






If it wasn't Planned Parenthood it was a a group just like them, you must have been aghast!

And what do you mean by "you"? I'm 68 and pushing retirement with a son and daughter pushing 40. I haven't a clue what my old high school is doing.
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The mobile unit was compliments of a grant written by our school nurse... infant mortality was a big concern back then... I can probably find a link if you like although it was a long time ago.. I'm still very much involved with my old high school... the kids and their families ...(not the high school I attended but the high school where I taught 23 out of my 30 years... we actually made the national news not very long ago... I'm a year older than you and happily retired...) if anyone here tells you differently they are not telling the truth by the way ..lol
 
TOP said:
You provided stories.... nothing documented...
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So YOUR little anecdotes about naming a fetus before it's even conceived, or having a miscarriage, or an ectopic pregnancy, blah blah blah are okay? But the accounts from actual, named, people who have spoken publicly are not? Why's that, Toxic? Why are your stories okay but everyone else's are just made up fiction?

You're just whining about statistics because you need the attention. Once provided with them, as in the questions you were repeatedly asked yesterday, you'll pretend not to see them and/or declare them fake news. Thirteen years of watching you do this exact same song-and-dance makes me an expert. lol
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Biden appears to have surrounded himself with ethical, capable assistants, aides, and advisors -- unlike the #MalignantManChild. Yes, he is elderly and yes, we all slow down as we age. But those of us who at least try to develop wisdom as we get older are aware of our limitations and find good people/methods to compensate. Every single man we've had in the White House for long has visibly aged before our eyes, even the youthful Barack Obama whose hair was grey when he left office. It's a tribute to Biden's strength that he can withstand the stress and rigors of the world's toughest job as well as he is doing.
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Yup,

I believe Biden needs to fully embrace his age and turn it, as best he can in to a positive, in the ways you highlight.

Highlight himself as the 'Wise Elder' who knows enough to surround himself with strong, more youthful advisers. A mix most cultures have revered over time, always seating the elders at the center to gain the benefit of their learnings over years.

The age issue is not going to go away, and unlike Reagan who was able to make it into a joke by embracing it (yes many said he was too old too, oh how times have changed) Biden should not shy away from it either. He is the elder who gives advice but also takes advice, unlike Trump who refuses all advice from his inner circle and keeps seeking it until he finds Sydney Powell type to tell him what he wants to hear.
 
TOP said:
I'm not sure why you think I love Trump... you're confusing me with someone else.... and we were talking about Biden not Trump... so it was unnecessary to mention him...
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Actually the OP and subject matter is about Tuesday's elections, and about abortion. YOU changed it to be about Biden, so bringing your #MaliciousMessiah into it is just.
 
QP! said:
Yup,

I believe Biden needs to fully embrace his age and turn it, as best he can in to a positive, in the ways you highlight.

Highlight himself as the 'Wise Elder' who knows enough to surround himself with strong, more youthful advisers. A mix most cultures have revered over time, always seating the elders at the center to gain the benefit of their learnings over years.

The age issue is not going to go away, and unlike Reagan who was able to make it into a joke by embracing it (yes many said he was too old too, oh how times have changed) Biden should not shy away from it either. He is the elder who gives advice but also takes advice, unlike Trump who refuses all advice from his inner circle and keeps seeking it until he finds Sydney Powell type to tell him what he wants to hear.
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Well said. Biden would be well advised to capitalize on his age and experience. I suspect that the more the RW hammers on about his age, the more of their elderly voters they are turning off. Fox and other RW media take great pains to show carefully-edited video making him look weak and frail. That might go over for a younger old person, like Toxic TOP, but for people in their 70s and 80s, it begins to look like mockery.
 
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