Big Lie Two Is Here, and It’s Far More Insidious Than Big Lie One

signalmankenneth

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I sure as hell don't want this pathological liar in the oval office again?!! Now the Big Lie 2 is Trump is being indicted to stop him for running for president?!! Trump was indicted for crimes against the country and states of NY and GA?!! No one is above the law either?!!

The Big Lie, as it quickly became known, was that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election. He’s still out there peddling this nonsense, and a lot of people still believe it, though thankfully, they constitute a clear minority of voters.

But now, there’s a new lie being peddled. Call it Big Lie Two. Trump has been hawking this one for a while, too, but it has been, to my mind, oddly little remarked-upon. That needs to change: Big Lie Two is more insidious and dangerous than Big Lie One, for two reasons. First, it has nothing to do with the settled past, but rather with the unsettled present and future. And second, because unlike Big Lie One, a majority of Americans believe it.

The lie is that the indictments against Trump represent a collective effort to stop him from running for president. Trump talks of this all the time; “election interference” is the phrase he often uses. They can’t stop me legitimately, he says—they know I won in 2020, and they know I’ll win again, so this is how they’re trying to block me.

It’s not true. What’s true is this. Credible evidence has emerged on a number of fronts that Trump may have broken the law: that he absconded with boxes of sensitive, classified documents to Florida; that he approved a hush-money payment to a woman with whom he’d had sexual relations; that he tried to influence officials in Georgia to rig the 2020 election; and that he led or directed an insurrection against the government of the United States.

He is presumed innocent until proven guilty in all these matters. Yet, in each of them, there is ample enough evidence of guilt on these fronts for prosecutions to proceed, and a lot of that evidence is, as Orwell might put it, right in front of our noses. We’ve seen the photographs of the boxes of classified documents, and we’ve heard that audio tape of him admitting that, contrary to his public statements, he knew that as an ex-president he could not declassify them.

We have the testimony of his former attorney that Trump ordered him (Michael Cohen) to cut the check to Stormy Daniels. We have the tape of him badgering Brad Raffensberger to find him 11,780 votes. And we have video evidence, as well as congressional testimony from former aides, speaking to the idea that Trump encouraged the January 6 violence and was enjoying it—and even, from Cassidy Hutchinson, that he so desperately wanted to go to the Capitol while the rioting was taking place that he reached for the steering wheel and lunged at the Secret Service man who blocked him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-lie-two-far-more-100000248.html

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I absolutely don't care about either the moral or legal implications
of trying to prevent Trump from ever running for public office again.

If ever there were a case of the end justifying the means,
this, boys and girls, is IT.
 
I absolutely don't care about either the moral or legal implications
of trying to prevent Trump from ever running for public office again.

If ever there were a case of the end justifying the means,
this, boys and girls, is IT.

If the (D)s were so powerful as to use the machinery of justice to keep Trump from running, wouldn't they just take the easy way out and have him capped by some anonymous "crazy" person? Or slip a little something into his next cheeseburger, ala Putin? Why bother with the circus of grand juries, indictments, arraignments, trials, etc.?
 
If the (D)s were so powerful as to use the machinery of justice to keep Trump from running, wouldn't they just take the easy way out and have him capped by some anonymous "crazy" person? Or slip a little something into his next cheeseburger, ala Putin? Why bother with the circus of grand juries, indictments, arraignments, trials, etc.?

I've not only said that all along

but have actually recommended it as well!:laugh:
 
Lie or not, it doesn’t make any difference to the MAGA militia, Trump could tell them he shits pure gold, and they would believe him, and an entire political party plus major news network would challenge anyone who said he didn’t
 
Hello signalmankenneth,

I sure as hell don't want this pathological liar in the oval office again?!! Now the Big Lie 2 is Trump is being indicted to stop him for running for president?!! Trump was indicted for crimes against the country and states of NY and GA?!! No one is above the law either?!!

[FONT=&]The Big Lie, as it quickly became known, was that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election. He’s still out there peddling this nonsense, and a lot of people still believe it, though thankfully, they constitute a clear minority of voters.
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[FONT=&]But now, there’s a new lie being peddled. Call it Big Lie Two. Trump has been hawking this one for a while, too, but it has been, to my mind, oddly little remarked-upon. That needs to change: Big Lie Two is more insidious and dangerous than Big Lie One, for two reasons. First, it has nothing to do with the settled past, but rather with the unsettled present and future. And second, because unlike Big Lie One, a majority of Americans believe it.
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[FONT=&]The lie is that the indictments against Trump represent a collective effort to stop him from running for president. Trump talks of this all the time; “election interference” is the phrase he often uses. They can’t stop me legitimately, he says—they know I won in 2020, and they know I’ll win again, so this is how they’re trying to block me.

It’s not true. What’s true is this. Credible evidence has emerged on a number of fronts that Trump may have broken the law: that he absconded with boxes of sensitive, classified documents to Florida; that he approved a hush-money payment to a woman with whom he’d had sexual relations; that he tried to influence officials in Georgia to rig the 2020 election; and that he led or directed an insurrection against the government of the United States.

He is presumed innocent until proven guilty in all these matters. Yet, in each of them, there is ample enough evidence of guilt on these fronts for prosecutions to proceed, and a lot of that evidence is, as Orwell might put it, right in front of our noses. We’ve seen the photographs of the boxes of classified documents, and we’ve heard that audio tape of him admitting that, contrary to his public statements, he knew that as an ex-president he could not declassify them.

We have the testimony of his former attorney that Trump ordered him (Michael Cohen) to cut the check to Stormy Daniels. We have the tape of him badgering Brad Raffensberger to find him 11,780 votes. And we have video evidence, as well as congressional testimony from former aides, speaking to the idea that Trump encouraged the January 6 violence and was enjoying it—and even, from Cassidy Hutchinson, that he so desperately wanted to go to the Capitol while the rioting was taking place that he reached for the steering wheel and lunged at the Secret Service man who blocked him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-lie-two-far-more-100000248.html
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Yes, it's amazing how many people are still falling for his con.
 
If the (D)s were so powerful as to use the machinery of justice to keep Trump from running, wouldn't they just take the easy way out and have him capped by some anonymous "crazy" person? Or slip a little something into his next cheeseburger, ala Putin? Why bother with the circus of grand juries, indictments, arraignments, trials, etc.?

If I liked you, being more circumspect would be recommended.
 
Here’s another Big Lie we’re seeing from the right these days.

That when Trump was trying to strong arm the Georgia SOS, etc., he was doing nothing more than “exercising his First Amendment right to free speech”.

Gotta love the effort, anyway. Dumbfucks
 
Try justifying this:

Group sues to block Trump from 2024 ballot in Colorado citing 14th Amendment and Jan. 6
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/group-sues-block-trump-2024-ballot-citing-14th/story?id=102964534

Lawsuit filed in Minnesota to boot Trump from 2024 ballot
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...president-donald-trump-2024-ballot-rcna104634

State election officials prepare for efforts to disqualify Trump under 14th Amendment
New Hampshire, Michigan and Arizona are bracing for lawsuits.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sta...orts-disqualify-trump-14th/story?id=102833123

Seems there are quite a few groups and people out there using the lawsuits as a justification to keep Trump from running. Hardly a "Big Lie" there.
 
Try justifying this:

Group sues to block Trump from 2024 ballot in Colorado citing 14th Amendment and Jan. 6
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/group-sues-block-trump-2024-ballot-citing-14th/story?id=102964534

Lawsuit filed in Minnesota to boot Trump from 2024 ballot
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...president-donald-trump-2024-ballot-rcna104634

State election officials prepare for efforts to disqualify Trump under 14th Amendment
New Hampshire, Michigan and Arizona are bracing for lawsuits.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sta...orts-disqualify-trump-14th/story?id=102833123

Seems there are quite a few groups and people out there using the lawsuits as a justification to keep Trump from running. Hardly a "Big Lie" there.

What's to justify?

Trump is an insurrectionist & criminal. No way he should be allowed to serve as President again.

The GOP should be deeply ashamed that a criminal & insurrectionist is their leading nominee right now.
 
Try justifying this:

Group sues to block Trump from 2024 ballot in Colorado citing 14th Amendment and Jan. 6
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/group-sues-block-trump-2024-ballot-citing-14th/story?id=102964534

Lawsuit filed in Minnesota to boot Trump from 2024 ballot
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...president-donald-trump-2024-ballot-rcna104634

State election officials prepare for efforts to disqualify Trump under 14th Amendment
New Hampshire, Michigan and Arizona are bracing for lawsuits.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sta...orts-disqualify-trump-14th/story?id=102833123

Seems there are quite a few groups and people out there using the lawsuits as a justification to keep Trump from running. Hardly a "Big Lie" there.

Nope, no lie at all.

Section 3:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath,as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
 
I sure as hell don't want this pathological liar in the oval office again?!! Now the Big Lie 2 is Trump is being indicted to stop him for running for president?!! Trump was indicted for crimes against the country and states of NY and GA?!! No one is above the law either?!!

[FONT=&]The Big Lie, as it quickly became known, was that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election. He’s still out there peddling this nonsense, and a lot of people still believe it, though thankfully, they constitute a clear minority of voters.
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[FONT=&]But now, there’s a new lie being peddled. Call it Big Lie Two. Trump has been hawking this one for a while, too, but it has been, to my mind, oddly little remarked-upon. That needs to change: Big Lie Two is more insidious and dangerous than Big Lie One, for two reasons. First, it has nothing to do with the settled past, but rather with the unsettled present and future. And second, because unlike Big Lie One, a majority of Americans believe it.
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[FONT=&]The lie is that the indictments against Trump represent a collective effort to stop him from running for president. Trump talks of this all the time; “election interference” is the phrase he often uses. They can’t stop me legitimately, he says—they know I won in 2020, and they know I’ll win again, so this is how they’re trying to block me.

It’s not true. What’s true is this. Credible evidence has emerged on a number of fronts that Trump may have broken the law: that he absconded with boxes of sensitive, classified documents to Florida; that he approved a hush-money payment to a woman with whom he’d had sexual relations; that he tried to influence officials in Georgia to rig the 2020 election; and that he led or directed an insurrection against the government of the United States.

He is presumed innocent until proven guilty in all these matters. Yet, in each of them, there is ample enough evidence of guilt on these fronts for prosecutions to proceed, and a lot of that evidence is, as Orwell might put it, right in front of our noses. We’ve seen the photographs of the boxes of classified documents, and we’ve heard that audio tape of him admitting that, contrary to his public statements, he knew that as an ex-president he could not declassify them.

We have the testimony of his former attorney that Trump ordered him (Michael Cohen) to cut the check to Stormy Daniels. We have the tape of him badgering Brad Raffensberger to find him 11,780 votes. And we have video evidence, as well as congressional testimony from former aides, speaking to the idea that Trump encouraged the January 6 violence and was enjoying it—and even, from Cassidy Hutchinson, that he so desperately wanted to go to the Capitol while the rioting was taking place that he reached for the steering wheel and lunged at the Secret Service man who blocked him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-lie-two-far-more-100000248.html
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You believe the big lies of the Democrat party. The indictments of Trump are set up to stop him from campaigning for president. The Democrats may not get the results they want
 
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