Biden will inherit Trump’s Peace Legacy

Darth Omar said:
Given the last 20 years *of failed policy* in the region, if all a president does in four years is piss off the Kurds that’s a win lol.

Perspective helps.

And that totally ignores the advances made under Trump. We can’t stay in Afghanistan 4-Ever because ‘we don’t know what might happen if we leave’. That’s the exact sort of thinking that led to the misery of the last decade, plus.
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We kept a profile of being an 'honest Broker' in respect to the Palestinians. Now, not so much.
 
Micawber said:
Trump doesn't even take security briefings, much less read his overnight briefs. Trump has no policy. No policy, no stated objectives,
hell he doesn't even have a vague geopolitical spacial political map of the globe in his head, much less know friend from foe. Trump 100% winged his presidency
because he didn't even think he'd be elected.
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such lies. he doesn't take a written PDB -not all POTUS do
He does get security briefings..it's amazing how stupid this post it

apparently he knows WTF he is doing, and not doing unlike Obama didn't when he regime changed Libya -
creating a failed terrorist ridden state
 
Darth Omar said:
You’re claiming he just ‘got lucky’ in the Middle East lol?

I pulled the following from the OP just for your enjoyment.

Enjoy yourself:

“What distinguished Barack Obama from all of his predecessors was his doggedness in wedding these dogmas into a collective ideology of American guilt.

On the Palestinians, Obama viewed Israel as singularly culpable for a failed peace process that had seen the Palestinians hold fast to terrorism and repeatedly reject Israeli offers of Palestinian statehood. He was unmoved by the fact that Israel's unilateral withdrawal from the Gaza Strip radicalized the Palestinians, instead of moderating them. As far as Obama was concerned, the U.S. had failed to bring peace because it hadn't brought sufficient pressure on Israel to make it buckle.

As for Iran, while Obama's predecessors were willing to disregard some U.S. interests to cut a deal with the mullahs, no one had entirely ignored reality. [Obama ignored reality/Trump embraced it] As Iran maintained its devotion to terror, pursued nuclear weapons and targeted the U.S. and its interests, Obama's predecessors were thus forced to abandon their hopes for an accord.

Unlike them, Obama was committed to the belief that Iran's animosity and hostile actions were rooted in past American bullying. Nothing could dissuade him from pursuing a nuclear accord with Tehran.

Over two years of nuclear negotiations, Obama erased every U.S. redline, from barring Iran from enriching uranium to abiding by U.S. law that prohibited the transfer of funds to state sponsors of terrorism.“

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-legacy-peace-opinion-1554928
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yep. AND Obama dissed the Sunni states -empowering Iran, and shaking our long term alliances
The first thing Trump did was to go to Saudi Arabia and shore up relations
 
anatta said:
whom do you refer to?
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Biden, the man "inheriting peace"... In the past 60 years every single President has pushed us into some foreign war except one. Why would somebody with a track record like Biden keep an "inherited" peace?
 
Damocles said:
Biden, the man "inheriting peace"... In the past 60 years every single President has pushed us into some foreign war except one. Why would somebody with a track record like Biden keep an "inherited" peace?
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beats me. but I'm willing to give peace a chance - the question is are the IC and warhawks like Blinken willing
 
Darth Omar said:
Not only has Trump brought more peace to the Middle East, more comprehensively and faster than all of his predecessors combined, but he made it look easy. Israel's ties with its Abraham Accords partners are expanding massively by the day. Tourists from the UAE are streaming into the country. And with one in seven Israeli Jews descended from the Moroccan diaspora, the potential for business and cultural ties between Israel and Morocco is almost limitless.

Trump's sundry Middle East peace deals are humiliating for his predecessors. Not only did they fail where Trump has succeeded, but they insisted that his achievements were impossible.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-legacy-peace-opinion-1554928
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Will Biden build on Trump’s legacy in the Middle East or squander it? Wish I could say I was hopeful—I see no reason to be.

And there’s an argument to made that Trump is the best foreign policy president since Reagan—especially, given what was handed to him by his *failed predecessors*.

But because it’s Trump, it will largely go unheralded except by the ‘non-approved’ pundit class but maybe historians will treat him more fairly. No Peace Prize even though his four years were historic in bringing peace to one of the most troubled places on the planet.

Not too shabby for a supposed no-nothing outsider. Maybe we need more of them.
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Trump is a traitor to the United States. Biden will find out Trump sold state secrets to Russia.
 
Darth Omar said:
Not only has Trump brought more peace to the Middle East, more comprehensively and faster than all of his predecessors combined, but he made it look easy. Israel's ties with its Abraham Accords partners are expanding massively by the day. Tourists from the UAE are streaming into the country. And with one in seven Israeli Jews descended from the Moroccan diaspora, the potential for business and cultural ties between Israel and Morocco is almost limitless.

Trump's sundry Middle East peace deals are humiliating for his predecessors. Not only did they fail where Trump has succeeded, but they insisted that his achievements were impossible.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-legacy-peace-opinion-1554928
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Will Biden build on Trump’s legacy in the Middle East or squander it? Wish I could say I was hopeful—I see no reason to be.

And there’s an argument to made that Trump is the best foreign policy president since Reagan—especially, given what was handed to him by his *failed predecessors*.

But because it’s Trump, it will largely go unheralded except by the ‘non-approved’ pundit class but maybe historians will treat him more fairly. No Peace Prize even though his four years were historic in bringing peace to one of the most troubled places on the planet.

Not too shabby for a supposed no-nothing outsider. Maybe we need more of them.
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Trump actually deserves The Nobel Peace Prize. As well as Pompeo. Brokered peace in the Middle East. Peace/relations with NK (or at least attempted). Peace with the Taliban.

Yet Obama gets it for increasing wars, and fomenting the creation of ISIS.

Shows you that all you have to do is be PC for liberal entities to adore you.
 
anatta said:
such lies. he doesn't take a written PDB -not all POTUS do
He does get security briefings..it's amazing how stupid this post it

apparently he knows WTF he is doing, and not doing unlike Obama didn't when he regime changed Libya -
creating a failed terrorist ridden state
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Prove your claims, lying Leper
 
anatta said:
The TDS clowns simply cannot accept Trump's brilliant ME moves - instead defaulting to
"The Palestinians question must be solved" (Kerry)

No. No it does not.
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I never got the fixation with the Palestinians to begin with. The whole region pivots around a tiny semi-nation? Never made a lick of sense.
 
BartenderElite said:
It's great to see former Iraq War hawks - who were so incredibly wrong about that 2003 invasion - come around on the idea of peace.
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That’s going on 20 years ago.

What about since then? Hasn’t the whole foreign policy establishment led us into one Cluster F* after another? It’s literally like they are incapable of learning.

Trump was *supposed* to be an unmitigated disaster on literally everything, including foreign policy, but look what happened.

Now it’s on Biden to not screw it up by going back to ‘the old ways’.
 
Darth Omar said:
That’s going on 20 years ago.

What about since then? Hasn’t the whole foreign policy establishment led us into one Cluster F* after another? It’s literally like they are incapable of learning.

Trump was *supposed* to be an unmitigated disaster on literally everything, including foreign policy, but look what happened.

Now it’s on Biden to not screw it up by going back to ‘the old ways’.
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Wild - that's exactly what the left was warning all of the hawks about in 2003. That invasion would open up a Pandora's Box of problems, and lead to long commitments we couldn't get out of.

And many on the right called them terrorist sympathizers for that.
 
Darth Omar said:
I never got the fixation with the Palestinians to begin with. The whole region pivots around a tiny semi-nation? Never made a lick of sense.
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the UN made it a big deal. The Usual Suspects make the Palestinians some sort of sacred cow.

What is amazing is all these years the US has gone along -gawd knows we' tried to get them to negotiate for
"land for peace"
Then Trump just goes around that roadblock and the Sunni states join in the Abraham Accords
 
BartenderElite said:
Wild - that's exactly what the left was warning all of the hawks about in 2003. That invasion would open up a Pandora's Box of problems, and lead to long commitments we couldn't get out of.

And many on the right called them terrorist sympathizers for that.
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Democrats went along for the ride
 
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