Biden Screws Up Big Again and Some Thoughts on Louisiana

[KingCondanomation]

Biden says Louisiana is losing 400 jobs a day when in reality they were one of the few states that GAINED jobs. Obviously Biden is not only senile but tries to generate fearmongering and make up believable facts almost as well as Watermark does.

"SHREVEPORT, LA (KSLA) - Giving the republican response to President Obama's speech Tuesday night, Governor Bobby Jindal pointed out fundamental differences in how republicans and democrats see the economy.

"But what I don't understand from Governor Jindal is what would he do?," asks Joe Biden while on the Early Show.
That rhetorical question to Governor Jindal on the Early Show, was followed with this.

"in Louisiana there's 400 people a day losing their jobs, what's he doing?" asks Biden.

But that claim is wrong, if you look at the numbers from the Louisiana Workforce Commission.

"In December, Louisiana was the only state in the nation besides the District of Columbia, according to the national press release that added employment over the month," says Patty Granier with the Louisiana Workforce Commission. According to her, not only is Louisiana not losing jobs. "The state gained 3,700 jobs for the seasonally adjusted employment," Granier said of the most recent figures. "
http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=9906943

So the other thoughts I had was that if Louisiana is doing well (and they became more Conservative Republican after Katrina), perhaps they can take on a bit more of the job of repairing their state from Katrina and forgo the remaining aid cash from DC:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-02-08-hurricane-aid_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Seems fair.

 

[cawacko]

I'm not trying to take away from Biden just shooting from the hip again but isn't it funny how politicians all want to take credit for every job created but are so good at passing off blame? It's like each person who gets hired for a new job needs to thank their Mayor, Governor and the President for creating that job for them. Yes politicians contribute positively or negatively to the environment that allow for businesses to flourish (or not) but they are still scum anyway.

 

[Topspin]

nope Bush still owes use 3 billion

 

[Onceler]

Pick your source. The Bureau of Labor statistics reported that the # of unemployed jumped from 109,000 in LA in November to 122,000 in December (or, an average of 430 per day).

 

[KingCondanomation]

nope Bush still owes use 3 billion

There is no Bush, there are only nationwide taxpayers, you are doing well, why should the rest of the nation pay for what largely affected your state?
Do you pay taxes to help people deal with snow and heating bills in the north?
Obviously Katrina was worse in scale but when it comes to weather most years you will pay less than states in the north that have to pay for heating, snow removal, etc...

My feeling is, if you CHOOSE to live in a state or area, then you are responsible for whatever costs that derive from that. I don't mind your choice but everyone else should not pay for it.

 

[Topspin]

oh you will pay the 3 billion promised form my levee's bitch

 

[KingCondanomation]

Pick your source. The Bureau of Labor statistics reported that the # of unemployed jumped from 109,000 in LA in November to 122,000 in December (or, an average of 430 per day).

I'll take the states figures over the national figures, just going by the bias that most politicians have a propensity to make things sound worse than they are to get more aid - especially in a non-election year when they don't have to try and make things sound rosier.
If Louisiana says they are doing well, they probably are.

 

[Onceler]

I'll take the states figures over the national figures, just going by the bias that most politicians have a propensity to make things sound worse than they are to get more aid - especially in a non-election year when they don't have to try and make things sound rosier.
If Louisiana says they are doing well, they probably are.

You'll take it because you want to believe that Biden "screwed up big." No other reason.

The Bureau of Labor stats is a credible source.

 

[KingCondanomation]

oh you will pay the 3 billion promised form my levee's bitch

You pay for it, you want to live there, you pay the costs of living there. Seems fair.

Realize I'm not attacking you or your state, I just think you pay for where you live.

Reminds me of a discussion I had with klattu over Florida hurricanes, he was complaining about high cost of insurance, but I countered saying he is still paying less because he is not paying the heating costs of what it takes to live back in Buffalo NY where he is from.

Yes hurricanes are expensive but they are rare and overall you have it better.

 

[KingCondanomation]

You'll take it because you want to believe that Biden "screwed up big." No other reason.

The Bureau of Labor stats is a credible source.

To be honest I don't trust either 100% and both about the same credibility, but I've given my reasons for why I trust the state more in this instance, you have given no reason for why you trust national stats more.

Also when you say November to December, the state figures are talking about December only.

 

[Bonestorm]

So Biden didn't screw up? The people claiming he screwed up screwed up?

 

[Onceler]

To be honest I don't trust either 100% and both about the same credibility, but I've given my reasons for why I trust the state more in this instance, you have given no reason for why you trust national stats more.

Also when you say November to December, the state figures are talking about December only.

The point, which you're missing, is that Biden didn't "screw up big." He is citing a credible source; a source which, if you'd like, I'm sure I can find Bush & other Republicans citing. As for the focus on December, that was also the focus of the quote for one of the links you put in your initial post.

 

[KingCondanomation]

So Biden didn't screw up? The people claiming he screwed up screwed up?

Nope the stats are direct from Louisiana, which would know more about their own state than DC would, says they gained jobs.
Biden screwed up, I'd ask him for his source but I don't know if he'd remember the website "number", maybe he can check with Gore who knows a thing or 2 about the internet, like inventing it.

 

[Onceler]

Nope the stats are direct from Louisiana, which would know more about their own state than DC would, says they gained jobs.
Biden screwed up, I'd ask him for his source but I don't know if he'd remember the website "number", maybe he can check with Gore who knows a thing or 2 about the internet, like inventing it.

LOL

You can always tell when a rightie decides to fold tent on a bogus argument.

 

[KingCondanomation]

LOL

You can always tell when a rightie decides to fold tent on a bogus argument.

???
You're from New York, you're telling me if there was a dispute in stats you would take DC's numbers over your states? You think Washington knows more about your state than your own state gov does?

Not many would agree with you there.

 

[Onceler]

???
You're from New York, you're telling me if there was a dispute in stats you would take DC's numbers over your states? You think Washington knows more about your state than your own state gov does?

Not many would agree with you there.

Like I said before, Biden didn't "screw up". He's citing a credible source.

The fact that you choose one source over another for partisan reasons doesn't mean he made a mistake.

 

[Damocles]

People. Do you realize both of the statistics could be accurate and Biden would then still be wrong at the same time?

Say they had a huge hurricane or something and many people left, but then after a couple years they started returning home, say after they lost a job elsewhere and wanted to go somewhere they were adding jobs to the market. If they returned at a faster rate than they added jobs, it is possible to have an increase in unemployment checks at exactly the same time they have added jobs for the month.

If both stats are accurate Biden would be wrong. It's entirely possible that Biden screwed up and BOTH of your statistics are correct.

I tend to believe that it is likely that both of their stats are accurate and Biden is a fool. But that is based on Biden's history of plagiarism and making up stuff and could be inaccurate as it hasn't been studied by a government entity yet.

 

[Norman Paperman]

Now you've done it, Damo. Now they'll really be confused.

 

[Onceler]

People. Do you realize both of the statistics could be accurate and Biden would then still be wrong at the same time?

Say they had a huge hurricane or something and many people left, but then after a couple years they started returning home, say after they lost a job elsewhere and wanted to go somewhere they were adding jobs to the market. If they returned at a faster rate than they added jobs, it is possible to have an increase in unemployment checks at exactly the same time they have added jobs for the month.

If both stats are accurate Biden would be wrong. It's entirely possible that Biden screwed up and BOTH of your statistics are correct.

I tend to believe that it is likely that both of their stats are accurate and Biden is a fool. But that is based on Biden's history of plagiarism and making up stuff and could be inaccurate as it hasn't been studied by a government entity yet.

Biden is citing a stat from the Bureau of Labor stats. He's not pulling something out of nothing.

This isn't a classic "Biden blunder." You can argue that the Bureau of Labor's stats should not be cited, but it would be a strange argument. Those are the stats he was using. He wasn't making anything up.

 

[uscitizen]

oh you will pay the 3 billion promised form my levee's bitch

You know you could choose not to live in a flood plain that requires massive federal dollars to build and maintain protections against flooding damage.

De-Regulate the rivers