Biden makes major f up in foreign affairs

T. A. Gardner said:
In what can only be called a major fuck up, Biden has now pissed the Russians off sufficiently that they've recalled their US ambassador to Moscow for "consultations" over Biden's latest rhetoric about Russian election interference. Seems the Russians aren't happy with the hyperbole and threats coming from the Democrats.

This is really a nearly unprecedented step. Even during the height of the Cold War, the Soviets / Russia didn't recall their ambassador. It takes a special kind of idiot in diplomacy to fuck things up this badly, yet Biden's managed it in less than two months in office.
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You are a traitor to the United States.
 
Guille said:
I disagree, we do need the Russians. Our establishment doesn't seem to think so though so I wonder why that is.
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Well, it's very likely that Chinese expansion will eventually frustrate Russia and lead to tension. As with the Cold War, playing on that division will be important.
 
anatta said:
you ignore classic triangulation.
For a conservative unfamiliar with Nixon's China card,that is a severe gap in your analysis
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Last time, the goal was to defeat Russia. Now it offers nothing except its stockpile of weapons and military exercises. It's possible that Chinese military expansion will soon cause Russia some grief, though.
 
CASPER said:
Fuck the Russians, their cyber attack was paramount to an act of war and they have rattling their sabers for years now, did you know they were trying to hack into our power systems, they could have made what happened in Texas look like a walk in the park, and what did trump do about it, hmmm. We finally have a President that will stand up to Putin and his BS. Putin felt empowered with trump in office, he knew he was weak and could be manipulated and that is exactly what the KGB agent did, heck who do you think he owes nearly half a Billion USD's to, clue it is not some German bank.
If you want to not stand your ground with Russia so be it, but it is time the USA says enough is enough and pushed back, Russia will back down count on it.
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What about china and Irans cyber attacks casper. They are just as guilty as russia you know .
 
Guille said:
I'd say it's been a lot longer than that. Our establishment has had a hard-on for Russia for years now yet no good reason has ever been offered for it.
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It’s like a vestigial organ that evolution forgot to dispose of along the way lol.

Ironically, it was the left and democrats that better managed to ‘move on’ after the Cold War. Then the Unforgivable happened in 2016. Prior to 2016 the only people who cared about Russia/Putin [and nobody really cared a lot] were on the right but that election changed everything.

Now the notion/idea/conspiracy theory that Russia poses an existential threat to the country is mixed up with TDS. I’m not sure what it would take to rid ourselves of it at this point.
 
Darth Omar said:
It’s like a vestigial organ that evolution forgot to dispose of along the way lol.

Ironically, it was the left and democrats that better managed to ‘move on’ after the Cold War. Then the Unforgivable happened in 2016. Prior to 2016 the only people who cared about Russia/Putin [and nobody really cared a lot] were on the right but that election changed everything.

Now the notion/idea/conspiracy theory that Russia poses an existential threat to the country is mixed up with TDS. I’m not sure what it would take to rid ourselves of it at this point.
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Progs dont GAF about da Russians until the Russian Hoax came along -then they gladly became Russiaphobes to get rid of Trump

same with 'Russian interference (which is laughable in scope) all of a sudden we're back to the Evil Empire days
 
Winston Smith said:
Well, it's very likely that Chinese expansion will eventually frustrate Russia and lead to tension. As with the Cold War, playing on that division will be important.
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that division between Russia and China is called "triangulation" when Nixon used it against Russia

Now we should do the same to China -except we're too stooping and paranoid of da Russians
 
Winston Smith said:
Last time, the goal was to defeat Russia. Now it offers nothing except its stockpile of weapons and military exercises. It's possible that Chinese military expansion will soon cause Russia some grief, though.
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much more likely we'll see a unified command for Russian and China armies
 
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