Biden green lights funds for nationwide electric vehicle charging network.

Wolverine said:
Yep, and the batteries will poison the environment! Not to mention how expensive those things are!
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Everything is expensive in the beginning, as were the TV and computer. Time and efficiency will always reduce prices. For now, electric vehicles are the wave of the future, until something even better comes along.
 
Celticguy said:
poor communities ? only rich people can afford these toys.

the average re-charge time is said to be 8 hrs, that means any long range driving is going to have to take a lot longer as you are limited to whatever range your toy car has and then you are done for the day.

total waste of printed money. your groceries go up for nothing due to the inflation it causes..
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If that was true we’d still be riding horses.

This how Capitalism and a free market works. Economic forces drive innovation. Those innovations start out as prototypes that have serious flaws. Increased demand for those innovations and continues development and improvement drive those technologies into mature technologies that have large markets and scale. Infrastructure supporting those technologies and the economic growth they provide.

Eventually other market forces come along and drive those technologies into new more efficient technologies that start, again, at the prototype development level until the technology is improved, matured and economy of scale reduces cost and efficiency.

You might as well go beat your head against the wall as to try to stop technological change and innovation.

There isn’t a major technology that in the last 150 years of the industrial Revolution where this hasn’t occurred and resisting market driven changes to technological development is an exercise in futility.

Eventually the modern innovations like e-cars will continue unabated and if the efficiencies, scalability and economic viability become proven then the free market will have spoken.

Eventually even these new and immature technologies that to become mature viable technologies will ultimately be replaced by other innovations which will go through the same process that e-cars are undergoing currently if proof of concept, prototype development, full scale implementation, improvement in design, efficiency, scalability, infrastructure development and maintenance, General acceptance and ultimately obsolescence.

So your railing against e-car development, regardless of whether it is political or otherwise is just plain silly. Your resisting change for the sake of resisting change.

E-cars have already passed through the proof of concept and prototype phase and are currently well into the commercial development and infrastructure phase and well on its way to the mature technology and and general acceptance phase.

If it reaches that phase then either you will have to accept that change as the prior technology will become obsolete and unavailable. Then at some time in the future another technology will render it obsolete.

I’ve test driven a Tesla Sportster and was seriously impressed and as long as the current situation with fossil fuels continues to drive market forces it will become a scalable mature technology which will dramatically reduce consumer cost and will gain wide General acceptance unless those market forces change. Which is unlikely.

Then you’ll have the choice of accepting those changes or walking,
 
Mott the Hoople said:
If that was true we’d still be riding horses.

This how Capitalism and a free market works. Economic forces drive innovation. Those innovations start out as prototypes that have serious flaws. Increased demand for those innovations and continues development and improvement drive those technologies into mature technologies that have large markets and scale. Infrastructure supporting those technologies and the economic growth they provide.

Eventually other market forces come along and drive those technologies into new more efficient technologies that start, again, at the prototype development level until the technology is improved, matured and economy of scale reduces cost and efficiency.

You might as well go beat your head against the wall as to try to stop technological change and innovation.

There isn’t a major technology that in the last 150 years of the industrial Revolution where this hasn’t occurred and resisting market driven changes to technological development is an exercise in futility.

Eventually the modern innovations like e-cars will continue unabated and if the efficiencies, scalability and economic viability become proven then the free market will have spoken.

Eventually even these new and immature technologies that to become mature viable technologies will ultimately be replaced by other innovations which will go through the same process that e-cars are undergoing currently if proof of concept, prototype development, full scale implementation, improvement in design, efficiency, scalability, infrastructure development and maintenance, General acceptance and ultimately obsolescence.

So your railing against e-car development, regardless of whether it is political or otherwise is just plain silly. Your resisting change for the sake of resisting change.

E-cars have already passed through the proof of concept and prototype phase and are currently well into the commercial development and infrastructure phase and well on its way to the mature technology and and general acceptance phase.

If it reaches that phase then either you will have to accept that change as the prior technology will become obsolete and unavailable. Then at some time in the future another technology will render it obsolete.

I’ve test driven a Tesla Sportster and was seriously impressed and as long as the current situation with fossil fuels continues to drive market forces it will become a scalable mature technology which will dramatically reduce consumer cost and will gain wide General acceptance unless those market forces change. Which is unlikely.

Then you’ll have the choice of accepting those changes or walking,
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Get back to me when EVs charge in the same amount of time it takes to fill a gasoline or diesel tank at the pumps and the manufacture and disposal of batteries isn't a huge toxic mess, will you?

Oh, and how will the extra electricity need to recharge over 250 million road-registered vehicles on demand be generated?
 
floriduhfan said:
Everything is expensive in the beginning, as were the TV and computer. Time and efficiency will always reduce prices. For now, electric vehicles are the wave of the future, until something even better comes along.
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Did the government attempt to force people to abandon their existing technologies when "the TV and computer" came along?
 
floridafan said:
Everything is expensive in the beginning, as were the TV and computer. Time and efficiency will always reduce prices. For now, electric vehicles are the wave of the future, until something even better comes along.
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So the fact that the reason for them, are to help the environment, and there is no way to dispose of the batteries is no issue? Kind of like the windmill blades that have to be buried and will no decompose? What about the strip mining that goes into getting the material for the batteries, and oh where does the electricity come from for the charging stations. It is nothing but a way for congress to make money off of the spending, by knowing where the money will be invested!
 
Sailor said:
This really is just another bridge to nowhere boondoogle Bartender. That money could be much better spent elsewhere.
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Just like CA's Bullet train to nowhere. This is not needed at this time.

I don't want to be the one telling the great grandkids why they're poorer and there's all this abandoned bullshit around.

Being scared to tell them how easy it was to make it in America in my day if you wanted to work when they have it so hard now. That's fucked up and it's people like Biden

and his admin doing things like that. The Senate, too.

How do they sleep at night knowing the bag of shit that they're handing to future generations?

"We took it all and partied it up, fuck you." Is not a good policy.
 
Legion said:
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that DEMOCRATS have already been tipped off to make investments in the charging station manufacturers.
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I would not be surprised to learn that the republicans are too stupid to realize that the electric car is exploding in popularity and that investing in something like charging stations is very likely to be smart investment.
 
Fudge Pack said:
I would not be surprised to learn that the republicans are too stupid to realize that the electric car is exploding in popularity and that investing in something like charging stations is very likely to be smart investment.
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Nobody is suggesting that you can't invest your own money in "something like charging stations", are they?
 
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