Biden falls on his face on stage at Air Force Academy graduation.

Doc Dutch said:
What's the lie? You use Ned Stark as an example then doubled down with Cerce(?). You used fictional characters for real life examples. Do I need to find and requote your post?
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The 'lie' is you saying i base my life on GoT, because i use it as an example.

Do you understand it is possible for example for a person to enjoy travel, all their adult life, and only recently find a travel show like Anthony Bourdain and use that as an example of what they like and that DOES NOT mean they base their life on Anthony Bourdain? Giving an easy identifiable example is DONE to make it easy for everyone to reference.

If i speak instead about my friend up the street, no one know but me on this forum, that example will be lost to most. So that is why we use celebrity or story accounts most people will understand the reference to.

BUt yes please requote my posts exactly you horrible liar and it will expose your lie.
Yeah, me neither. You were the one who said you wouldn't die for morals then flip-flopped by claiming you'd do so for your family.
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No flip liar. Stop lying again.

What WE were discussing was not being flexible on morals. Being an absolutist who would not compromise their morals even if it meant their own death or that of their own family. Thus why i gave the Ned Stark fictional example, as someone who could say 'i stuck to my morals' as his comfort as his head was chopped off.

You are lying, as you always do to try and change it as if i said i had no morals, when the point was that morals, in my view require some flexibility when you are faced with an immoral person and despot.

This all started with you blanket condemning the concept of voting for the 'lesser of two evils' as if that is ALWAYS wrong and there are no exceptions. I am not an absolutist and while i generally abhor the lesser of two evils vote strategy, because i am not an absolutist i can be flexible and say 'Trump is unique enough a threat that we must vote the lesser of two evils THIS TIME'.

THAT is what our entire discussion was based upon and why i gave the GoT example, which is very apt as an illustrator. Fictional or not the lesson from the story is that if you allow immoral despots to seize power you may lose everything.




That doesn't even make sense, QP. Again, you are fabricating claims. Standing up for one's morals to the point of risking harm or death is what I was posting about when you ran off with your GoT fantasy example.
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No liar, stop lying.

What we were debating was your statement that pushed the 'lesser of two evils' vote as always wrong. You took an absolutist position. I pushed back, rightly, that absolutists positions are not what i believe in. They almost always fail. And that if one clings to an absolutist position, when faced with a great threat, and thus cannot act, due to their 'morals', and they lose everything (life, family lives, community lives) then i hope they take some solace in a thought, as they die of, 'at least i held to my morals'.
 
Earl said:
This pathetic, doddering old man is the leader of the free world, the holder of the Nuclear Codes (shudder).
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I take solace that at least it less embarrassing than this doddering OBESE old man, who is clearly wearing adult diapers being the leader of the free world and holding the nuclear codes.

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Can you imagine a guy who thinks are bodies are like batteries and thus the more you work out or do any exercise the shorter your life will be? Can you imagine how that lead him in his elder years to developing more of the typical octogenarian woman's body than the male body (wiry and thin) at those ages?

Oh wait, you do not have to imagine...

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GRANDMA IS THAT YOU?
 
TOP said:
Why?
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Ask phony, uh phanny . But it’s obvious. If you assume she understands the 12b rule then it was for no other purpose of harassment and intimidation.
*OR* she doesn’t understand the most enforced rule of the board.
Either way, SHE hopefully got a warning from Damo for her behavior.
But I have no issues with her. I find it amusing.:)
 
QP! said:
The 'lie' is you saying i base my life on GoT, because i use it as an example.

Do you understand it is possible for example for a person to enjoy travel, all their adult life, and only recently find a travel show like Anthony Bourdain and use that as an example of what they like and that DOES NOT mean they base their life on Anthony Bourdain? Giving an easy identifiable example is DONE to make it easy for everyone to reference.

If i speak instead about my friend up the street, no one know but me on this forum, that example will be lost to most. So that is why we use celebrity or story accounts most people will understand the reference to.

BUt yes please requote my posts exactly you horrible liar and it will expose your lie.
No flip liar. Stop lying again.

What WE were discussing was not being flexible on morals. Being an absolutist who would not compromise their morals even if it meant their own death or that of their own family. Thus why i gave the Ned Stark fictional example, as someone who could say 'i stuck to my morals' as his comfort as his head was chopped off.

You are lying, as you always do to try and change it as if i said i had no morals, when the point was that morals, in my view require some flexibility when you are faced with an immoral person and despot.

This all started with you blanket condemning the concept of voting for the 'lesser of two evils' as if that is ALWAYS wrong and there are no exceptions. I am not an absolutist and while i generally abhor the lesser of two evils vote strategy, because i am not an absolutist i can be flexible and say 'Trump is unique enough a threat that we must vote the lesser of two evils THIS TIME'.

THAT is what our entire discussion was based upon and why i gave the GoT example, which is very apt as an illustrator. Fictional or not the lesson from the story is that if you allow immoral despots to seize power you may lose everything.

No liar, stop lying.

What we were debating was your statement that pushed the 'lesser of two evils' vote as always wrong. You took an absolutist position. I pushed back, rightly, that absolutists positions are not what i believe in. They almost always fail. And that if one clings to an absolutist position, when faced with a great threat, and thus cannot act, due to their 'morals', and they lose everything (life, family lives, community lives) then i hope they take some solace in a thought, as they die of, 'at least i held to my morals'.
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You used a fictional character to define my morals.

FWIW, I don't do text walls, but thanks for insight into your mind. You seem angry and frustrated.
 
Doc Dutch said:
You used a fictional character to define my morals.

FWIW, I don't do text walls, but thanks for insight into your mind. You seem angry and frustrated.
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Nothing wrong with using a fictional character to do that and only a stupid person thinks there is. The point is the attributes and whether it is a real person named Steve or a fake one named Ned, if all the attributes are the same the learnings are the same.

You seem stupid and like a liar. Oh because, you are.
 
QP! said:
Nothing wrong with using a fictional character to do that and only a stupid person thinks there is. The point is the attributes and whether it is a real person named Steve or a fake one named Ned, if all the attributes are the same the learnings are the same.

You seem stupid and like a liar. Oh because, you are.
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You are an excellent example of a Democrat, QP! :thup:
 
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