Biden blocks 6 Billion…

Damocles said:
Again, earmarking money just frees up money that used to be earmarked for that.

Earlier I explained the fungibility of money, it's in this thread. Keep up. I can go through it again, but really... it's there for posterity.

Ah, heck... If I have $6 I am saving for ear medicine and fish food for my goldfish, then my mommy promises to give me $6 to pay for those things on Sunday. I then take my $6 and spend it today on a 1980s priced nickel bag and a McDouble, the only reason I thought i had money for weed and junk food was because mommy promised me $6 for medicine and fish food.

Now, that's how fungibility works and how "earmarking" promised money still allows them to spend on other things.

Are we up to pace now? Good.

Now, money in an account they cannot spend doesn't help them, but the money they were promised to get, that was even transferred to an escrow account and rules changed so the banks were sure the US would not punish them for doing this, that changes everything.
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And if American university students with student debt, have earmarked money to pay that debt but Biden announces a new policy aimed at cancelling that debt, MANY WILL INSTANTLY put that money to other uses. It does not matter if that money actually gets budgeted or delivered or the debt cancelled.

Just as when Trump and Pompeo change policy on giving Iran $6B they will start spending elsewhere.


If you were not so simple minded you would understand that aspect of human nature.
 
Damocles said:
Actually, they only had to intend to spend some money that they could divert away because of the $6 billion promise. Any money they divert, even if it is less than the entire $6 billion would be more to spend on things like pretty rockets to gift Palestine for Rosh Hashanah gifts.

So, if they planned to spend $1 Billion, then diverted that because they were promised $6 Billion, the fungibility of money still is in play.
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Do you have any evidence they planned to spend any money on the aid the 6 billion would cover, or are you just talking out of your ass.
 
QP! said:
OMG are you ever painfully stupid.

You actually think that when Iran sees the $6B pot of money building up and they read the Trump and Pompeo position change below, they would never act, as they do not have a 'promise'.

How fucking baseline stupid are you actually, you brain dead simpleton.

As soon as IRan would have seen the policy shift, they would have started freeing up money, by your logic.
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You are again misconstruing things, I think it is because you are demonstrably stupid.

The sanctions the US put on Iran allowed them to spend money on medicine and food, hence the budget they already had for that. The money that China paid for oil though, that went into an account they could not access and could not spend. They had to spend other money on that. Now, Biden promised to give them access to that money, at that time the fungibility of money comes into play. They believed they would have access to billions they didn't have access to before, and it was on things that now freed up money that they had budgeted for medicine and food. They remove money from the budget for food and medicine and buy nice Rash Hashanah gifts for Hamas, things go boom in Israel...

No matter how many times you pretend that money that they had no access to is somehow "Trump's fault" when it was Biden who promised them access to that money it still doesn't make it true.

That the money was there because Trump allowed China and others to buy oil... I get that, however they had no (none, nada) access to the money and were not expecting it until Biden promised them access to the money.
 
Damocles said:
Don't get me wrong, he finally made the right decision. Better late than never is what I say in this case. Still better would be not to give a terrorist funding regime any access to cash you don't absolutely have to give them.
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You have some evidence they are a “terrorist funding machine”?
 
Jarod said:
Do you have any evidence they planned to spend any money on the aid the 6 billion would cover, or are you just talking out of your ass.
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The only thing they really could budget for was food and medicine, our sanctions allow them to spend on that. They always have a budget for that. Pretending that they didn't is just plugging your ears and shouting because you don't want to hear. Now do I have evidence that they did use that money this time? No. I don't. However, I do believe that they would do that every single time. We should not give them access to or pay them any money for any reason. Give money to the Red Cross, let them buy them food.

Giving access to any money to that regime only leads to bad actions elsewhere in the world. I'm glad the directors of the White House puppet show finally came to their senses.
 
Damocles said:
The only thing they really could budget for was food and medicine, our sanctions allow them to spend on that. They always have a budget for that. Pretending that they didn't is just plugging your ears and shouting because you don't want to hear. Now do I have evidence that they did use that money this time? No. I don't. However, I do believe that they would do that every single time. We should not give them access to or pay them any money for any reason. Give money to the Red Cross, let them buy them food.

Giving access to any money to that regime only leads to bad actions elsewhere in the world. I'm glad the directors of the White House puppet show finally came to their senses.
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Do you have any basis for your claim that they “always have a budget for that”?
 
volsrock said:
Why its their money...right...my god u fools are idiots
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It is their money.

Let's say your KKK bank account was seized by the Liberals. You sue, win and make a deal for them to give the money back even though you'll spend it on KKK shit. Is the money yours or theirs simply because you have ideological differences?
 
Jarod said:
Do you have any basis for your claim that they “always have a budget for that”?
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Food and medicine? Yes. That's how they get food and medicine in Iran. The sanctions the US has put on them allow them to spend money on those things.
 
The same people who claim to be standing up for a "rules based order" do not actually believe in rules...as proven constantly by our behaviour.

The world has had enough, we are abusers who are being put down, for the good of humanity.

Buckle Up.
 
Damocles said:
You are again misconstruing things, I think it is because you are demonstrably stupid.

The sanctions the US put on Iran allowed them to spend money on medicine and food, hence the budget they already had for that. The money that China paid for oil though, that went into an account they could not access and could not spend. They had to spend other money on that. Now, Biden promised to give them access to that money, at that time the fungibility of money comes into play. They believed they would have access to billions they didn't have access to before, and it was on things that now freed up money that they had budgeted for medicine and food. They remove money from the budget for food and medicine and buy nice Rash Hashanah gifts for Hamas, things go boom in Israel...

No matter how many times you pretend that money that they had no access to is somehow "Trump's fault" when it was Biden who promised them access to that money it still doesn't make it true.

That the money was there because Trump allowed China and others to buy oil... I get that, however they had no (none, nada) access to the money and were not expecting it until Biden promised them access to the money.
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Listen up simpleton.

The sanction the US put on Iran HAD THE POWER TO ALLOW THEM TO SPEND MONEY ON MEDICINE AND FOOD, BUT BECAUSE MONEY IS FUNGIBLE AND TRANSFERABLE IT ALSO ALLOWED THEM TO SPEND IT ON NICE GIFTS THAT GO BOOM IN ISREAL.

Money is both fungible and tangible you simple minded dolt. You CANNOT claim that none of the money Trump gave Iran for "medicine and food" DID NOT end up in stuff that goes boom. You cannot simply assume "they already had a budget for that".

Because you are stupid you create an entirely false and unsubstantiated narrative and just proceed as if it is fact.

For instance prove the entire underlying thesis of your position absolving Trump and Pompeo. PROVE that none of that money went in to stuff that goes boom"?
 
Damocles said:
Food and medicine? Yes. That's how they get food and medicine in Iran. The sanctions the US has put on them allow them to spend money on those things.
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You claim that all food and medicine in Iran is purchased and paid for by the government?
 
QP! said:
Listen up simpleton.

The sanction the US put on Iran HAD THE POWER TO ALLOW THEM TO SPEND MONEY ON MEDICINE AND FOOD, BUT BECAUSE MONEY IS FUNGIBLE AND TRANSFERABLE IT ALSO ALLOWED THEM TO SPEND IT ON NICE GIFTS THAT GO BOOM IN ISREAL.

Money is both fungible and tangible you simple minded dolt. You CANNOT claim that none of the money Trump gave Iran for "medicine and food" DID NOT end up in stuff that goes boom. You cannot simply assume "they already had a budget for that".

Because you are stupid you create an entirely false and unsubstantiated narrative and just proceed as if it is fact.

For instance prove the entire underlying thesis of your position absolving Trump and Pompeo. PROVE that none of that money went in to stuff that goes boom"?
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No, you moron. Please read this slowly so your brain can keep up.

They really do need to spend a certain amount on food and medicine so they budget it for that. Then they are promised billions that are "earmarked" that they otherwise didn't have access to. That is what frees up the money in the budget for nice gifts for Hamas. Money is fungible even if you are too stupid to understand the concept.
 
Jarod said:
You claim that all food and medicine in Iran is purchased and paid for by the government?
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I tell you that the sanctions we put on them allow their government to spend money on these things, not "all food and medicine" I have no idea if that is the case, I do know that because of the sanctions they have a difficult time doing business and the government has to supply food and medicine, which we allow. Now money they have budgeted for that can be moved if they get access to money from another source. In my example I spent the money for the McDouble and weed even before my mommy gave me the cash, explaining how fungibility can change budgeting...

I'm reasonably sure you are smart enough to understand these things. Even lawyers can understand things like this.
 
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