bho's birth certificate revisited

more lies....you post in them too...yet its just me and i "always"....and i gave you my reasons....of course you are now trying to lie and smear my reasons so you ignore them....typical

i have no idea if you're a homo, your obsession with me and your intense search to try and find out my real identity and then contact my employer in real life and then your failed attempted to post my personal information on this board......i don't know....you said that i was a homo for doing that, though i never did....so i give you back what you said.....

funny how your hypocrisy and lies always come back to isn't....."maineman"

you could have let this go long ago when i asked you.....so i ask you again...

let it go

if you have no idea if I am a homo, why do you continue to insult me by referring to me as homofrommaine?

and I DO always post on these threads... and you know I do because YOU always do...and the reason that I always do is to keep morons like you and the rest of the "BHO is not a real citizen" focused on this topic.

like I said...it's a win-win. that is not hypocritical of me at all.

and I already know your employer and your work address and your partner's names.... just like you know similar information about me...

that's called "detente"

oh...but the interesting thing about our "detente" is that I will be completely retired and immune from anything you might try to do to hurt ME in a matter of months..... you, on the other hand, are just a young guy and your exposure stretches out there for years and years.... so the "detente" is really a bit skewed, eh? :lmao:
 
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Please. We were able to compare grades between Kerry and Bush, read dissertations. Saw the military records of both of them. Same with McCain.

What do we get with Obama? An executive order making it so that it will take a court order to view historical records that pertain to His Majesty the One.

No records of grades, not even a peek at his original birth certificate (McCain put his out to shut up the critics and it worked.)

Regardless of how this all turns out (IMO it will be disappointing for the Birthers), by acting like he has something to hide he creates the image that he has something to hide.


So you want Obama's college grades? That's what really moves you? Or non-existent military records? This is classic. You claim we don't know anything about him (notwithstanding that he wrote two autobiographies) and the best you can come up with is college grades. Jesus. You're an idiot.

Oh, and do tell about this Executive Order. I'm intrigued.

And I like the bit about McCain's birth certificate. Have you seen Bush's? Clinton's? Bush I's? Reagan's? Carter's? Ford's? Nixon's? (you tell me when the "modern" presidents stop). And I don't even think the McCain campaign released it.

Congrats, Damo. You're a birther!
 
the new supposedly insulting name....birther..

so we get to call the people who asked to see McCain's BC, birthers..

how firggen stupid..they think they can label someone a stupid name and that automatically make this issue go away..or the people asking about it some nutjob...

guess what..it finally hit the lamestream media, and man are frothing at the knees for "the Hugo" trying to spin for his ass..
 
if you have no idea if I am a homo, why do you continue to insult me by referring to me as homofrommaine?

and I DO always post on these threads... and you know I do because YOU always do...and the reason that I always do is to keep morons like you and the rest of the "BHO is not a real citizen" focused on this topic.

like I said...it's a win-win. that is not hypocritical of me at all.

and I already know your employer and your work address and your partner's names.... just like you know similar information about me...

that's called "detente"

oh...but the interesting thing about our "detente" is that I will be completely retired and immune from anything you might try to do to hurt ME in a matter of months..... you, on the other hand, are just a young guy and your exposure stretches out there for years and years.... so the "detente" is really a bit skewed, eh? :lmao:

ah....bringing up the personal stuff again.....and you have no idea who i am....but threatening that you know me......wow.....you never stop....once again.....YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT WHO YOU THINK I AM......your obsession over me is fruitless.....let it go dude....seriously

and i'm laughing that you always post in these threads because i do......LOL.....stalker, you just proved my point

lastly, to try and bring you back on point.....do you have anything to say against my factual points in this thread or are you here just to insult me and try and get under my skin? if the latter, i will ignore you the rest of this thread, if the former.....kindly point out anything wrong i have said in any birth certificate thread on any board......go ahead.....

i challenge you
 
ah....bringing up the personal stuff again.....and you have no idea who i am....but threatening that you know me......wow.....you never stop....once again.....YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT WHO YOU THINK I AM......your obsession over me is fruitless.....let it go dude....seriously

and i'm laughing that you always post in these threads because i do......LOL.....stalker, you just proved my point

lastly, to try and bring you back on point.....do you have anything to say against my factual points in this thread or are you here just to insult me and try and get under my skin? if the latter, i will ignore you the rest of this thread, if the former.....kindly point out anything wrong i have said in any birth certificate thread on any board......go ahead.....

i challenge you

learn how to read, moron. I never said that I post in these threads because you do....I said that I do post in these threads and you know that because you do. get the difference, melon-head?

my point was always that as a practical political issue, democrats LOVE to see moronic birthers like you keep harping on this for the two very clear reasons that I already delineated.

Keep it up. you're doing a fine job, GAC.
 
learn how to read, moron. I never said that I post in these threads because you do....I said that I do post in these threads and you know that because you do. get the difference, melon-head?

my point was always that as a practical political issue, democrats LOVE to see moronic birthers like you keep harping on this for the two very clear reasons that I already delineated.

Keep it up. you're doing a fine job, GAC.

you need to learn how to write more coherently (and i am sure now that i called you on your words you will twist the meaning of your words below to fit you....i don't care):

I DO always post on these threads... and you know I do because YOU always do

could easily be taken as ....you know i do....because you always do....

and you are again lying that i am one who believes obama was not born here.....that is a lie, i've told you that repeatedly, i've made posts about on this board repeatedly.....

and i noticed you can't find one single thing wrong with anything i have ever said in a thread about this topic...why is that? why didn't you take the chance to prove me wrong? instead.....all you did was lie....
 
you need to learn how to write more coherently (and i am sure now that i called you on your words you will twist the meaning of your words below to fit you....i don't care):

I said:

I DO always post on these threads... and you know I do because YOU always do

you said:

and i'm laughing that you always post in these threads because i do......LOL.....stalker, you just proved my point

there is no "twisting" required. I said that I did always post on these threads and I previously laid out my reasons for doing so. I went on to say that you were aware of my posting behavior BECAUSE you were always posting on these threads - because you are obsessed with the BHO birth certificate debate. I NEVER said that the reason I posted on them was BECAUSE you did and I am NOT stalking you....but it its clear to me now that YOU are the closet homo who fantasizes about encounters with men you follow on the internet. really creepy.
 
the new supposedly insulting name....birther..

so we get to call the people who asked to see McCain's BC, birthers..

how firggen stupid..they think they can label someone a stupid name and that automatically make this issue go away..or the people asking about it some nutjob...

guess what..it finally hit the lamestream media, and man are frothing at the knees for "the Hugo" trying to spin for his ass..

John McCain was born in Colon, Panama
Panama is a foreign country
However, U.S. installations in foreign countries are not considered part of the United States. So, delivering a baby at a U.S. naval base or embassy in a foreign country does not entitle the baby to U.S. citizenship.

Barach Obama was born in Hawaii
Hawaii is one of the United States of America
The claim is that Obama was born in Kenya.


The US law on citizenship by birth incorporates two traditional legal principles:

* ius soli ("right of the soil"), under which citizenship results from being born in the US, and

* ius sanguinis ("right of the blood"), under which citizenship results from having an American parent or parents.

Section 301 of the INA [8 USC § 1401] defines the following classes of people as having US citizenship from the time of birth:

(3) anyone born outside the US, if at least one parent is a US citizen and certain residency or physical presence requirements were fulfilled by the citizen parent or parents prior to the child's birth;

Under certain conditions, children born outside the US may have US citizenship by birth. This depends on whether one or both parents have US citizenship, how long (if at all) the American parent(s) lived in the US prior to the child's birth, and whether the parents were married to each other or not. The rules have changed several times during the 20th century (mostly in a more liberal direction), so the exact date of one's birth can also be important when determining a claim to citizenship by descent.

Under the current law, if both parents are US citizens and are married, then the child is a US citizen if either parent had a "residence" in the US at any time in his or her life prior to the child's birth. There is no specific minimum period of time in the law for how long a parent must have been in the US in order for his/her status to be accepted as having been "residence" in the US.

If one parent is a US citizen, and the other is not, and the parents are married, then the current law says the child is a US citizen if the American parent was physically present in the US for one or more periods of time totalling at least five years, at some time or times in his or her life prior to (but not necessarily immediately prior to) the child's birth. Additionally, at least two years out the required five years of physical presence must have taken place after the parent's 14th birthday; thus, for example, a parent who was born and grew up in the US, but who left before reaching age 16 and never returned, doesn't meet the requirement.

Prior to 14 November 1986, the physical presence requirement in this case was ten years (instead of five) -- including five years (instead of two) spent after the parent's 14th birthday. The requirement was reduced in 1986, but the change did not retroactively make US citizenship available to people born previously who did not meet the old requirement. (Congress's intent not to make this change retroactive was affirmed in 1988 with the passage of Public Law 100-525, § 8(d), 102 Stat. 2619).

Both John McCain and Barack Obama are legally citizens by birth of the United States of America.

Stop the madness already, for God's sake.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/law.html#CitByBirth
 
So you want Obama's college grades? That's what really moves you? Or non-existent military records? This is classic. You claim we don't know anything about him (notwithstanding that he wrote two autobiographies) and the best you can come up with is college grades. Jesus. You're an idiot.

Oh, and do tell about this Executive Order. I'm intrigued.

And I like the bit about McCain's birth certificate. Have you seen Bush's? Clinton's? Bush I's? Reagan's? Carter's? Ford's? Nixon's? (you tell me when the "modern" presidents stop). And I don't even think the McCain campaign released it.

Congrats, Damo. You're a birther!
I'd like to see those records, but it doesn't really move me. I just get stunned when people who wanted a minute by minute record of Bush's time in the Guard, spoke volumes about Bush's grades, compared them unfavorably to past Presidents (and incorrectly to Kerry who we later found sucked even worse), constantly wanted more "transparency" when it came to the life and times of Bush now ignore any request for even the simplest of documents from "The One".

There were actual Congressional hearings for McCain to see if he was eligible because of where he was born, this guy... well, you get the picture.

Congratulations, you are willing to drink the left over kool aid.

I will note specifically that I said that I think the birthers will be disappointed, but I do believe that at some point in time we will see these documents.
 
this is pathetic....it ends here....you wrote your sentence poorly or truly meant it another way until called on it:



hence why i changed "you" to "i"

I wrote my sentence perfectly.

and I DO always post on these threads... and you know I do because YOU always do.

NOTHING in that sentence suggests that I post on birth certificate threads BECAUSE you do. NOTHING in that sentence suggests that I post on those threads to stalk you. In fact, I went on to say:

and the reason that I always do is to keep morons like you and the rest of the "BHO is not a real citizen" crowd focused on this topic.

like I said...it's a win-win. that is not hypocritical of me at all.

I realize that the degree from the back of the matchbook may not have had english comp.... so I suggest you study up.... you might start with an ESL course... it seems like that might be more appropriate.
 
Your argument could be made for any study. It's utterly stupid. You sound like USFREEDOM911 going off on how a poll of 2000 couldn't possibly represent the general population.

And the study doesn't have to represent the general population to show that among people who strongly identify with either conservative or liberal, the trend is valid.

You have nothing but very, very weak and retarded attempts to discredit the thing. I'm staying away from it hoping I'll get someone with something to contribute to post on it without you derailing it further. If you post something worth mentioning there, I'll address it. Pulling random bits from the study that you don't understand to try to refute something that can't be refuted with the study (because the study made the finding I posted) doesn't qualify.

And I was correct.
 
^lol^

i and others i won't mention nor will i provide proof....know the truth

you crack me up

you make dorky homo statements that I am stalking you and then, when you get it shoved back in your face, you run away.

why am I not surprised?
 
does anyone want to actually counter the facts i've laid out in birth certificate threads? or is this just another liberal hit and run thread?
 
does anyone want to actually counter the facts i've laid out in birth certificate threads? or is this just another liberal hit and run thread?
They believe that mocking you is countering what you have posted. They wouldn't accept it as a counter argument in any other type of thread, but that is what they believe in these threads.

It's fascinating how both sides act to me.

The President is required only to prove his citizenship to the Electoral College before they vote, and before the Senate as the votes are taken. I wonder what kind of evidence he brought to that show...

I'm interested to see where it goes. There is another court case making its way through the system, probably more than one. Soldiers are refusing orders until evidence is shown, and instead of fighting it the orders were canceled before they came into effect.

It's just weird.

Long ago, I would have just gone to Hawaii, got out the document, had about a billion pressies around and had pictures taken with me and the Hawaiian dude that is responsible for the documents.

This whole thing would have been over. Instead we have some people arguing that he never regained citizenship after he returned from Indonesia and since there was no way to hold dual citizenship at that time he is no longer a "natural born" citizen.

Had he quashed this at its inception it would be over, instead it grows.
 
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