Beware Trump's Impending War in Syria

tinfoil said:
By investing in the defense industry while holding the purse which pays for their services. Basically, it's exploiting insider knowledge.
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investing as in buying stocks? same question, how does a President buy stocks while in office?
 
Trump supporters and asswipes, if you support Trump's intervention in Syria and you meet military age requirements, enlist and volunteer to fight in Syria?!! If you are too old to enlist, volunteer to be a suicide bomber for Trump, that would really freak-out ISIS too?!! But don't be a keyboard warrior?!!
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blackascoal said:
While the world has been paying attention to the bumbling failures of the Donald Trump .. the smell of war is rising.

Congress Needs to Stop Trump’s Escalation of the War on Syria
The president’s plans will only fan the country’s*flames.

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During the 2016 GOP presidential primaries and on through to the end of last year’s general election campaign, candidate Donald J. Trump repeatedly derided the fact that the United States had spent upward of $6 trillion dollars on wars in the Middle East because we, in his words, “have nothing to show for it.” One might then have reasonably expected Trump to begin the process of unwinding our overstretched positions in the region when he became president.

But alas ..

On March 9, The New York Times reported that the United States is sending 400 troops to Syria to bolster the small number of American troops that are already on the ground there. A week later, March 15, The Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has drawn up plans to send a 1,000 more troops within the coming weeks. Meanwhile, in anticipation of the coming (and perhaps final) stages of the operation against the Islamic State, the administration has decided to send “an additional 2,500 ground combat troops to a staging base in Kuwait from which they could be called upon to back up coalition forces battling the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.”

The administration, in keeping with Obama and Bush administration policy, is still relying on the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) as legal justification for the use of force in Syria. But as Slate’s Joshua Keating has pointed out, the 2001 AUMF “specifically applied to the perpetrators of 9/11 (al-Qaida) and those that harbored them (the then-Taliban-controlled government of Afghanistan).” There is nothing in the language of the AUMF that authorizes military operations in Syria.

And once again, an administration is embarking on a military intervention in the absence of virtually any debate. Micah Zenko of the Council on Foreign Relations tweeted that he found it “Truly amazing that nobody in DC cares about the US troop increase and mission expansion in Syria.”

Well, not quite nobody.

On Tuesday afternoon, members of the House Progressive Caucus gathered on Capitol Hill to announce their support for HR 1473, the “Prohibit Expansion of US Combat Troops into Syria Act.” The bill, which was introduced by California Democrat Barbara Lee, seeks to “prohibit the deployment of members of the Armed Forces to Syria for purposes of engaging in ground combat operations, and for other purposes.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/congress-needs-to-stop-trumps-escalation-of-the-war-on-syria/

Truth is, nobody can stop Trump from deeper engagement in this war-of-choice .. and the impediments that democrats now seek should have been in place when Obama destroyed Libya, his war-of-choice.

The Clinton-haters claimed that she was the warmonger and greatest danger. Yet, she would not be standing on the doorsteps of war less than 90 days into her administration.

I guess everyone wants to be a war president .. but this one will be led by a clown.
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Talk to them afterwards, I wonder if they would change their minds?
 
christiefan915 said:
What do you mean, how? By calling or having someone call his broker. There's no law saying he can't trade, just that he can't use inside info to trade.
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Your whole premise has been he would use inside information to gain financially.

And President's are suppose to put their assets in a blind trust so no President is going to call their broker and say but stock in company X.
 
cawacko said:
Your whole premise has been he would use inside information to gain financially.

And President's are suppose to put their assets in a blind trust so no President is going to call their broker and say but stock in company X.
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He didn't put his assets into a blind trust. He turned over their management to his sons. That's as eyes-wide-open as it gets.

This is just one reason we don't trust anything about trump. He does what he wants and to hell with precedent, ethics or law. For example, after he won the election he doubled the membership fee to Mar-a-Lago, from $100K to $200K. Is it legal, probably. Is it ethical, I don't think so. He used the office to gain financially.
 
Who Will Rule Mosul?

Once Islamic State militants are forced out. But despite a campaign more than a year in the making, Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has yet to forge a coherent political plan that can bridge the divide between the rival groups, all but certainly pushing back a military operation yet again, U.S. officials and experts said.

Obama administration officials are closely watching the political intrigue over Sunni-majority Mosul, which borders the semi-autonomous Kurdish region in Iraq’s north and is only a few hours’ drive from the Iranian border.
U.S. officials are wary of any scenario that skews the balance too far in favor of any one group — particularly proxies answering to Iran or Kurdish forces intent on carving out more territory.

“Who takes Mosul matters a lot,” said a senior administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Shiite militias with links to Iran (known as Popular Mobilization Forces), Kurdish Peshmerga troops, Sunni tribal leaders, and Iraqi Army commanders “have a different vision for how we get there,” the official told Foreign Policy.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/29/iraq-isis-sunni-shiite-kurds-fight-mosul/

the article is a year old, but begs the question -who governs Mosul?
It's mostly a Sunni area, but the Kurds do have influence, and the Iraqi army is there ( Shiite )
as well s some Iranians..and of course the native Sunni tribes.

It's the 2nd largest city in Iraq, and dominates the north - so who gets the governing is important
 
christiefan915 said:
He didn't put his assets into a blind trust. He turned over their management to his sons. That's as eyes-wide-open as it gets.

This is just one reason we don't trust anything about trump. He does what he wants and to hell with precedent, ethics or law. For example, after he won the election he doubled the membership fee to Mar-a-Lago, from $100K to $200K. Is it legal, probably. Is it ethical, I don't think so. He used the office to gain financially.
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Yes he uses the office to gain financially. He makes his money via his real estate. The idea that we are going to war in Syria so he can buy some oil and defense stocks makes zero sense.
 
cawacko said:
Yes he uses the office to gain financially. He makes his money via his real estate. The idea that we are going to war in Syria so he can buy some oil and defense stocks makes zero sense.
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Cawacko. He already owns oil and defense stocks. There are several things at play here, his "job" in real estate, his side projects like clothing, water, vodka, etc. and his investment portfolio. I'm talking about his investments. He's already benefiting from the defense stocks he owns. It's completely separate from the real estate. We already know he'll do anything and everything to make more money. It's his reason for being.
 
christiefan915 said:
Cawacko. He already owns oil and defense stocks. There are several things at play here, his "job" in real estate, his side projects like clothing, water, vodka, etc. and his investment portfolio. I'm talking about his investments. He's already benefiting from the defense stocks he owns. It's completely separate from the real estate. We already know he'll do anything and everything to make more money. It's his reason for being.
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So we are going to go to war in Syria to try and boost the share price of the smallest portion of his holdings even though it would ultimately cost him more money vis a vis his real estate and branding (his side projects).
 
Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump discussed his policy on the Syrian civil war into which Russia has now inserted itself and suggested he would take a wait-and-see approach on how handle the situation.

Trump said, “I want to sit back––and this does not sound like me very much––but I want to sit back and I want to see what happens. You know Russia got bogged down when it was Soviet Union in Afghanistan. thought it would be quick and easy. I think it’s not going to be great for them if you want to know the truth. They got bogged down. It destroyed the Soviet Union, Afghanistan. now they’re going into Syria, there are so many traps, there are so many problems. When I heard they were going in to fight ISIS, great, let them.”
 
cawacko said:
So we are going to go to war in Syria to try and boost the share price of the smallest portion of his holdings even though it would ultimately cost him more money vis a vis his real estate and branding (his side projects).
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I never said that. I said that he would try to make money out of war and tragedy. He said something to that effect during the campaign, I'll try to find it.
 
christiefan915 said:
trump: "If we have [nukes] why can't we use them?"

Of course he wants war. Think of how much wealthier he and his cronies will become if there's war.
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This was your quote that started the discussion. So even though he gets far wealthier from his real estate holdings you're arguing that the small percentage of his wealth tied up in stocks will trump that (no pun intended).
 
christiefan915 said:
I never said that. I said that he would try to make money out of war and tragedy. He said something to that effect during the campaign, I'll try to find it.
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I'm fairly certain he did not say that. What I recall is he said he would make money off being President, but then he gives up his salary. I'm not even sure why he made such a comment.
 
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