Best argument ive seen as to why Islam is the problem

Guille said:
I've seen wildly varying numbers on how many condone terrorism but I can assure you there are enough who condone it, along with other things, that it's a problem.
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The Pew poll was only Muslims in 3rd world countries. I agree it's an issue there.

In general, Muslims worldwide have been extremely vocal in their condemnation of major attacks. I hear a lot of ignorance on the right about how they're not "speaking up," but they do.
 
Thing1 said:
You start w/ this as a primer:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_United_States

You're completely uninformed on the topic if you think Muslims are responsible for a majority of attacks here, much less a VAST majority of attacks.
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Yer link proves zero. I guess it must be those nasty nuns who chop off heads n' put people in cages in the river, n' shoot up night clubs, military bases, or Christmas parties, n' fly planes into buildings, drive trucks/cars into crowds of people, yer sayin' eh? Yer kinda a goof ball aren't ya?
 
OldMercsRule said:
Many Liberal/Progressive/Marxist/Statist/Fascists think they can read minds.

If someone professes ta be Muslim, a follower of Islam, (submission), you think you know better then they do about what they believe?
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I think a terrorist's actions speak louder than their words.
 
Jarod said:
Ive seen the video, does not mean it is Islam that is the problem, Its a misunderstanding of Islam that is the problem.

Murder of abortion doctors is mostly committed by those professing to be Christians, does that make it a Christian problem?

Additionally, Who are these Muslims killing? Other Muslims... do you think those other Muslims believe Islam is the problem?
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Jarod said:
Murders in the United States are overwhelmingly committed by "Christians", does that make Murder a Christian problem?

Rape in the Untied States are overwhelmingly committed by "Christians", is Rape a Christian problem? Is rape a Male Problem? Is is a problem caused by everyone who has a penis?

Assassinations are almost all done by men, is it a male problem?

Idiots!
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You're actually much more of an idiot that I thought.....
Watch the vid. again and this time turn of the audio.
There were 7 abortion doctors killed in the last 75 years....does that sound like a Christian problem....
If it was 7 killed every year, you might have a case, counselor.


Generally,
Muslim beliefs, customs and culture are incompatible with western beliefs, customs and culture....

You must be aware of how they treat women, gays, and all infidels in their own country's....it is inconceivable that those practices can be tolerated
in any western civilization....
They demand women, ALL women to dress according to Islam where they rule
They condone beating your wife
They practice honor killing regardless of what country they are live in
They marry children by decree, by force
They condone prison and the death penalty for homosexuals
What we consider basic human rights has no place in Islam
Rape is viewed as adultery
They hold their cultural 'laws' above the laws of the country they live in
The list is endless and they show no desire to fully assimilate into western culture because that would demand they
abandon their own deeply held customs and cultures....
 
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Thing1 said:
As always, we get into a really dangerous territory when we start generalizing a huge group by a very small % of their members.

It's what Hitler did. All we really need to know on that topic.
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Muslims in small groups are fine, it's when they become a large minority or even a majority in an area then fundamentalism can take root. There are towns in the North of England where Muslims hardly ever encounter anyone other than fellow Muslims.


Jarod said:
It has never been true that the entire religion was a problem. That is just silly. Their are about a billion Muslims in the world, more than 75% are peace loving people.
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Actually there are 1.6 billion or thereabouts. If we took your 75% figure as in the right ball park then you're talking about 400 million that are not peace loving.

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Jarod said:
I agree with your statement, with a small modification. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but the vast majority of terrorism is committed by people professing to be Muslims.
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the video does address that. Its not for us to decide how to define islam and to tell them they are doing it wrong. We are from a different religion. It is up to their theologians to do so.
 
IN the same way that I would say that a member of Westoboro Baptist Church is not a Christian, I don't consider a terrorist a Muslim.

They want us to assume that it is the way of Islam, the goal of this type of terrorism is to draw us into a war with all of Islam instead of just these radical groups. They know they cant win unless it becomes a war against all of Islam.
 
Thing1 said:
The Pew poll was only Muslims in 3rd world countries. I agree it's an issue there.

In general, Muslims worldwide have been extremely vocal in their condemnation of major attacks. I hear a lot of ignorance on the right about how they're not "speaking up," but they do.
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I live in the middle of the single largest concentration of muslims in the western world. I don't hear a lot of them speaking up about muslim mis-behavior. I do hear too many of them defending honor killings...in Metro Detroit...because it's a religious thing. I did see too many of them partying in Dearborn on 9/11 and I heard too many of them say that Charlie Hebdo deserved what they got. Not all of them but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it were half of them and I'm talking about American muslims, some of them 3rd or 4th generation Americans.
 
Guille said:
I've seen wildly varying numbers on how many condone terrorism but I can assure you there are enough who condone it, along with other things, that it's a problem.
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The vast majority of Muslims do not condone terrorism.
 
NOVA said:
You're actually much more of an idiot that I thought.....
Watch the vid. again and this time turn of the audio.
There were 7 abortion doctors killed in the last 75 years....does that sound like a Christian problem....
If it was 7 killed every year, you might have a case, counselor.


Generally,
Muslim beliefs, customs and culture are incompatible with western beliefs, customs and culture....

You must be aware of how they treat women, gays, and all infidels in their own country's....it is inconceivable that those practices can be tolerated
in any western civilization....
They demand women, ALL women to dress according to Islam where they rule
They condone beating your wife
They practice honor killing regardless of what country they are live in
They marry children by decree, by force
They condone prison and the death penalty for homosexuals
What we consider basic human rights has no place in Islam
Rape is viewed as adultery
They hold their cultural 'laws' above the laws of the country they live in
The list is endless and they show no desire to fully assimilate into western culture because that would demand they
abandon their own deeply held customs and cultures....
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We insist people dress certain ways, if you don't believe me try showing up at the Court House in a bikini.


Please cite a source for your claim that "they" all believe the things you listed above!
 
Ask Janet Jackson about how the Government controls how women dress in the USA.
 
Jarod said:
IN the same way that I would say that a member of Westoboro Baptist Church is not a Christian, I don't consider a terrorist a Muslim.

They want us to assume that it is the way of Islam, the goal of this type of terrorism is to draw us into a war with all of Islam instead of just these radical groups. They know they cant win unless it becomes a war against all of Islam.

the vast majority of terrorism is committed by people professing to be Muslims.
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So you think the vast majority of terrorists ARE NOT MUSLIM even though they claim to be ? Are you serious ?

Is this like men professing to be women, or women professing to be men....or whites professing to be black....?

Or do you want it both ways ?
 
Jarod said:
Ask Janet Jackson about how the Government controls how women dress in the USA.
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You're gettin' stupid again, Counselor....

So you condone nudity on the public streets?
How about blow jobs ?
maybe public intercourse....

Where would you draw the line...and why would make YOUR line better than anyone else's....
 
Jarod said:
IN the same way that I would say that a member of Westoboro Baptist Church is not a Christian, I don't consider a terrorist a Muslim.

They want us to assume that it is the way of Islam, the goal of this type of terrorism is to draw us into a war with all of Islam instead of just these radical groups. They know they cant win unless it becomes a war against all of Islam.
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hwo do you get to define how islam is praticed correctly? What makes you more qualified than the theologians who spend their whole life studying the koran and are you know actual muslims?
 
Guille said:
I live in the middle of the single largest concentration of muslims in the western world. I don't hear a lot of them speaking up about muslim mis-behavior. I do hear too many of them defending honor killings...in Metro Detroit...because it's a religious thing. I did see too many of them partying in Dearborn on 9/11 and I heard too many of them say that Charlie Hebdo deserved what they got. Not all of them but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it were half of them and I'm talking about American muslims, some of them 3rd or 4th generation Americans.
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This is anecdotal. In all honesty, what is the rough count Muslims you have either heard or actually spoken to?
 
Thing1 said:
This is anecdotal. In all honesty, what is the rough count Muslims you have either heard or actually spoken to?
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they showed a map in the video overlaying the concentration of suicide bombings and concentration of muslim populations. It almost matched exactly.
 
Thing1 said:
This is anecdotal. In all honesty, what is the rough count Muslims you have either heard or actually spoken to?
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Of course it's anecdotal, no newspaper in the country would run a story saying anything like this even if they knew it to be true. I really do wish everyone in the country could spend at least a year living in an area like Metro Detroit with this many muslims, a lot of perceptions would change.
 
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