bernie was out for himself not the Democratic party

Amadeus said:
Oh, please. If you want total freedom, you can exit America immediately and buy a plot of land in in the mountains of Afghanistan. Otherwise, you accept and BENEFIT from the limits to freedom of a civilized society. The free market alone cannot govern or sustain a civilized society. The economy requires regulations, and society requires laws. I don't trust your word that you'd not violate my freedoms without those protections.
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no, you can't. the usa owns you. the USA is one of the few countries on earth where ex-pats are still responsible for paying taxes. They wont let their money source away that easy.
 
Something I've been saying since the beginning.

Seems like it should've been obvious to everyone.
 
Superfreak said:
Dear moron...
Bernie followed the LEGAL procedure to run as a Democrat. Many Democrats supported him and his run for the President on the Democratic ticket. It is THEIR party TOO you fucking moron.

What fake news about Hillary did Bernie 'allow his voters' to believe? (Nice to see Desh admit that Democratic voters only believe what their leaders allow them to believe)
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she's an idiot. i don't waste my time..

Bernie caucuses with the Dems. He's a Dem in everything but name.
The Clinton's wrecked that party -not Bernie -all the enthusiasm and turnout went with Bernie, not Clinton
 
Corazón said:
Bernie would never have lasted long if he had become President, unless of course he changed tack pdq. Democrats tend to start wars more because they are always subject to weak on defence and security allegations.
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Bernie's problems with foreign policy are many.
He completely eschews American leadership -conflating it with American exceptionalism ( neocon def.)
Every other word out of his mouth was "coalitions" not understanding coalitions require leadership
 
anatta said:
Bernie's problems with foreign policy are many.
He completely eschews American leadership -conflating it with American exceptionalism ( neocon def.)
Every other word out of his mouth was "coalitions" not understanding coalitions require leadership
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Would have still been better than fuck everyone, the foreign policy of Trump.
 
Corazón said:
Well I am tending to agree with you surprisingly. However it was only the other day you were telling me that Desh is misunderstood and she is passionate rather than a raving lunatic.

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Doesn't mean she is always right.
 
Amadeus said:
Oh, please. If you want total freedom, you can exit America immediately and buy a plot of land in in the mountains of Afghanistan. Otherwise, you accept and BENEFIT from the limits to freedom of a civilized society. The free market alone cannot govern or sustain a civilized society. The economy requires regulations, and society requires laws. I don't trust your word that you'd not violate my freedoms without those protections.
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it's called the right to bear arms, duh. and why do you simpletons ALWAYS equate freedom with anarchy? how does one 'benefit' from limits to freedom??????
 
evince said:
Im telling my party members the truth


sometimes the truth makes you feel icky


when the truth makes you feel icky you need to rethink your shit.



this si the media trying to destroy Hilarys reputation.

Never forget what the media did to Howard Dean folks


they are corporate
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Hillary loves war.
This country is sick of war.
Stop ignoring that fact.
 
anatta said:
she's an idiot. i don't waste my time..

Bernie caucuses with the Dems. He's a Dem in everything but name.
The Clinton's wrecked that party -not Bernie -all the enthusiasm and turnout went with Bernie, not Clinton
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She is not an idiot.

people who disagree with you are not idiots.
 
evince said:
https://thinkprogress.org/clinton-to-cut-ties-with-private-prison-industry-ddea515b3842/


Clinton To Cut Ties With Private Prison*Industry
Alice Miranda Ollstein
Oct 23, 2015, 3:45 pm


now prove she EVER gave them anything for that money



taking donations is not the same as giving them aid and supporting them



republicans just take everyones money huh


its why they raise more


its helps them pay for cheating in elections
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Fact: Hillary was for private for profit prisons. fact.
 
evince said:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/sanders-on-democratic-fundraising-we-ll-see-655536195876
Sanders on fundraising for Democrats: 'We'll see'
Senator Bernie Sanders, Democratic candidate for president, talks with Rachel Maddow about whether he will help raise money for the Democratic House and Senate campaign committees and other party candidates.









he refused to raise money for other democratic party members running
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Your apologetics for the Clinton rigging of the DNC Primaey is utterly disgusting.
 
evince said:
go get proof she ever did anything for that industry.


if you cant than taking their donations is evil in what way?
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Ignorance is no better than lying.
If you are really this ignorant do more research.
The bottom line, Hillary is not a good girl.
 
Amadeus said:
Bernie was a better candidate than Hillary because he had better policy positions, and he wasn't corrupt. Full stop. If you can meet that minimum threshold, you have my support -- until someone better comes along. Hillary's political empire was built on shady alliances and monetary entanglements. Her policy positions were Milquetoast at best, or were right-of-center at worst. That's a large part of the reason why she lost, and if you don't smarten the fuck up, you'll pick another loser in 2020.

You want to lose 'BIGLY' in 2020? Attack the liberals and move back to the center.
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Bernie is a self proclaimed Socialist. That alone makes him a piece of shit. Anyone that support his Socialist policies is also a piece of shit. Stop stinking up the county, turd. Flush yourself before you fuck it up any more.
 
Amadeus said:
Bernie was a better candidate than Hillary because he had better policy positions, and he wasn't corrupt. Full stop. If you can meet that minimum threshold, you have my support -- until someone better comes along. Hillary's political empire was built on shady alliances and monetary entanglements. Her policy positions were Milquetoast at best, or were right-of-center at worst. That's a large part of the reason why she lost, and if you don't smarten the fuck up, you'll pick another loser in 2020.

You want to lose 'BIGLY' in 2020? Attack the liberals and move back to the center.
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I disagree.

Sanders was and remains a flawed candidate with lots of ideas and few accomplishments .. and he comes with messy dirt of his own.

Sanders isn't a democrat and should have never been allowed to run in the democratic primary in the first place.

That being said, unless democrats get it together and stop sniping at each other like children, they will not be able to take advantage of this massive opening that Trump has created for them.
 
Bernie wasn't 'out for himself', but he WAS trying to not take part in the big money raising most Democrats feel they have to do.
 
blackascoal said:
I disagree.

Sanders was and remains a flawed candidate with lots of ideas and few accomplishments .. and he comes with messy dirt of his own.

Sanders isn't a democrat and should have never been allowed to run in the democratic primary in the first place.

That being said, unless democrats get it together and stop sniping at each other like children, they will not be able to take advantage of this massive opening that Trump has created for them.
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I think you are posting distortions, and wrong-headed about Bernie, who I strongly support. He absolutely should have been allowed to run for the Democratic nomination - leave it up to the voters to decide.

But I also agree with you about the need for unity. Once Bernie lost the nomination to Hillary, I supported her and told other Bernie supporters to do the same - as Bernie did. There wasn't a chance he'd run third party and split the vote hurting Democrats.
 
I Love America said:
What policy positions do you differ with Bernie on? Please be VERY specific
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None come to mind, though I'm sure there are some minor ones. For example, I'd like to increase our science research spending by a factor of 10, and have never heard him mention that.
 
evince said:
Im not a independent


Im not a socilaist



Im a democratic party member who believes in the power of my party to fight the evil that is your current party.


Bernie should be just one member.

But he refused and refuses to even join me and my party
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But Bernie co-founded the largest caucus in the Democratic Party, and he caucuses with Democrats, and is the most popular politician with Democratic voters. I want the progressive wing to take over the Democratic Party.
 
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