Benghazi? No...Ben Dover

maineman said:
globule obviously is unaware of the difference between the two chambers of congress.

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The whole idea is to protect your dictatorship at all costs, comrade. You and zapperhead are right at the forefront of that fight.

Go weep for dead Christmas trees. ;)
 
christiefan915 said:
I guess you're ignoring my responses to you in the other thread using the document you linked to.

No surprise there.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?60793-Subject-of-quot-All-Up-In-My-Snatch-quot-thinks-The-Hildebeast-is-swell&p=1439929#post1439929
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Sorry sweetie...I just never got back to the thread....but when you start blaming the dead men that can't defend themselves to any alleged bull, I do tend to
ignore those posts....
In any event, Hillary don't take orders from her underlings even if the accusations have any merit, which I doubt....Hillary gives orders, not the other way around.
She should have had much more information from US intell. than any underling in Libya was privy to...

Shes the boss, shes responsible....she even said so for all the good that does.
 
maineman said:
globule obviously is unaware of the difference between the two chambers of congress.

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Did they not substantially agree in the most pertinent parts ?....

"House Armed Services Committee concludes that there was no way for the U.S. military to have responded in time to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi"

Thats was the problem that should not have been, you can bet your ass that the US military is NOW in a position to respond to similar attacks in the future, just as
they should have been then in light of earlier attacks there.
 
the US military cannot be everywhere at once and hindsight is always 20/20.... but y'all keep beating this dying horse... it's damned near dead now, and I guarantee you it'll be cold and moldy come election season two years from now.
 
maineman said:
the US military cannot be everywhere at once and hindsight is always 20/20....
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No they cannot be everywhere at once.....yet

...when I served in Gitmo my squadron ALWAYS had some line crew and a few jets and their pilots on alert....every day, every night and the danger was far far less than the
conditions in ME today....yet, we had to go to Germany for response troops, and planes in Italy weren't on "alert" for anything, no armed drones in the vicinity, no
ships in entire Med and inadequate security on site....?

Damn, I find that kind of incompetence from the State Dept. and DOD almost unbelievable .....yet it is undeniable.

Kinda like 19 terrorists strolling into the country to take flying lessons for a year....
 
and your Gitmo tour makes you an expert on military readiness and force preparedness... I forgot that. You must have been in on a lot of high level discussions about those sort of strategic issues while you commanded the squadron at Gitmo, I'd imagine?
 
maineman said:
and your Gitmo tour makes you an expert on military readiness and force preparedness... I forgot that. You must have been in on a lot of high level discussions about those sort of strategic issues while you commanded the squadron at Gitmo, I'd imagine?
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Nah...didn't need to...50 years ago, we were on alert and prepared....no so much today though when the danger is far higher and the need is so much greater.....
its obvious incompetence reigns in Washington....
 
NOVA said:
Take it up with Titus Livius...."Their insolence and recklessness must be opposed, and better late than never."....I'm in no mood ... schools out for today.


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I can understand.

I'd be upset too if I spent the last YEAR haranguing people into believing some sort of phony "Scandal", only to have my own party's leadership say THERE IS NO SCANDAL.

It sure makes you and everyone else who whined about "Benghazi" look foolish.
 
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NOVA said:
Democrats join GOP to blame State in Benghazi
USA TODAY 11:04 p.m. EST January 15, 2014
A bipartisan report blames the State Department for failing to increase security and adds that 15 people in Benghazi who have tried to help the FBI investigate have been killed.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/15/benghazi-senate-report-clinton/4490727/

Senate Committee says Benghazi Attacks Preventable
The report notes that the State Department in 2012 had ignored its own "tripwires" set to determine when it had become too dangerous to operate in Benghazi, and continued to operate the facility there, despite a steady drumbeat of U.S. intelligence reports showing the danger was rising.

The report faults the military for being unable to help when needed. "No U.S. military resources in position to intervene in short order in Benghazi to help defend" the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, it said.
http://news.yahoo.com/senate-committee-says-benghazi-attacks-preventable-154501946.html


Yet you say there is nothing.....its all the fault of Fox News.....and you have the balls to call others "gullible kool-aid drinking morons"..?

Take a look sonny....you're wrong and we're right.....and thats because idiots like you are the gullible kool-aid drinking morons, morons that only get their news from propaganda sites like 'thinkprogress'....
we'll just ignore 'thingy'....hes pathetic....
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How about that?

NOVA is contradicting himself...


NOVA said:
Did they not substantially agree in the most pertinent parts ?....

"House Armed Services Committee concludes that there was no way for the U.S. military to have responded in time to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi"
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He himself cites information from the HASC that clearly states there was nothing that could have been done.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Well maybe this will shut up the lunatics...but probably not.


GOP Report Acknowledges That The U.S. Military Couldn’t Have Changed Benghazi Outcome


In a new report released on Tuesday, the House Armed Services Committee concludes that there was no way for the U.S. military to have responded in time to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya to save the four Americans killed that night. In doing so, the report debunks entirely a right-wing myth that says the White House ordered the military not to intervene.

For months after the attack that resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens, conservative media was awash in reports that on the night of the assault the Obama administration at some point ordered the military not to take action that would have saved lives. This supposed “stand down order” led to a bevy of right-wing conspiracies about why the President and his administration had let the Americans die.

“Who told the SEALs to stand down?” Rep. Steve King asked in Nov. 2012, in just one of many interviews with Republicans referring to the response to Benghazi as “worse than Watergate.”

As Media Matters reports, Fox News cited reports of a stand-down order no fewer than 85 times during prime-time segments as of June 2013. As the new report — which the Republican majority of the committee authored –makes very clear in its findings, however, no such order ever existed. “There was no ‘stand down’ order issued to U.S. military personnel in Tripoli who sought to join the fight in Benghazi,” the report says, noting that the military was not positioned to respond to the attack.

“Given the military’s preparations on September 11, 2012, majority members have not yet discerned any response alternatives that could have likely changed the outcome of the Benghazi attack,” the report concludes.

This tracks with the repeated insistence from the White House and Pentagon over the months that everything possible had been done once the military assets in the region had mobilized. Then-Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, in the first Senate hearing on the military response, told panel members that it’s impossible to prepare for every possible contingency when planning, accusing the panel of believing the military was akin to a “911 service.”

While Senate Republicans chided Panetta at the time, it seems Republicans on the HASC now agree with the secretary’s assessment. “Majority members believe the regional and global force posture assumed by the military on September 11, 2012 limited the response,” the report continues. “Majority members recognize, of course, that it is impossible for the Department of Defense to have adequate forces prepared to respond immediately to every conceivable global contingency. Ensuring that preparations exist for some likely possibilities is not to be confused with the ability to anticipate all prospective circumstances, especially in highly volatile regions.”

The night of the attack, the United States had few military assets within the region, the report reads, requiring the transport of soldiers from U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) stationed in Germany to Libya, a trip that took several hours. Once there, the majority of the reinforcements were given the order to remain in Tripoli to prevent a possible attack on the U.S. Embassy itself, a distinct possibility in the eyes of the Pentagon. The Pentagon also confirmed to the HASC that there were no AC-130 gunships or armed drones within the region that night, another topic of speculation from right-wing media outlets.

The Democrats on the panel asked their Republican colleagues if they could finally move on from Bengahzi. “This report, produced by House Armed Services Committee Republicans, should finally bring an end to the politicization of the heinous attacks on brave Americans in Benghazi,” HASC Ranking Member Rep. Adam Smith (D-CA) and Rep. Niki Tsongas (D-MA), the HASC Oversight and Investigations subcommittee’s ranking member, said in a statement. “It is time to move forward, take the real conclusions we have arrived at and establish how to best protect our citizens around the globe. It is our hope that today’s report, which was authored by Republicans, finally brings this attempt to manufactured scandal to an end.”


http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/02/11/3276171/gop-benghazi-military-hasc/
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That wasn't the point regarding Benghazi you fawning leftist dunce.

What is wrong with you morons? Can you really be this painfully stupid and dishonestly partisan?

I'm thinking in your case, BOTH.

Benghazi was a story of obfuscation, outright lies and an attempt to mask gross incompetence of the Obama Administration in an election year.

But you're a fawning lefttard dunce; why let facts, reality or the truth get in the way of your painfully stupid partisan efforts to defend the indefensible.

Dunce.
 
maineman said:
the US military cannot be everywhere at once and hindsight is always 20/20.... but y'all keep beating this dying horse... it's damned near dead now, and I guarantee you it'll be cold and moldy come election season two years from now.
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Hindsight is all this President and his dimwitted administration has. Of course our allies had the foresight to pull their personnel.

But this administration didn't just stop at stupid, they had to fabricate a tall tale in order to make it look like it was some obscure videographer's fault!!!

But alas, you're too painfully stupid and stuck on hyper partisan to comprehend the obvious, the truth or facts eh Comrade Dunce?
 
maineman said:
and your Gitmo tour makes you an expert on military readiness and force preparedness... I forgot that. You must have been in on a lot of high level discussions about those sort of strategic issues while you commanded the squadron at Gitmo, I'd imagine?
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Not everyone can reach the level of Commander Dunce like you, eh comrade! ;)
 
ZappasGuitar said:
I can understand.

I'd be upset too if I spent the last YEAR haranguing people into believing some sort of phony "Scandal", only to have my own party's leadership say THERE IS NO SCANDAL.

It sure makes you and everyone else who whined about "Benghazi" look foolish.
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I am fascinated that the deaths of Government personnel due to incompetence and covered up by a fabricated story blaiming some obscure videographer is not a scandal.

But then, you're a hyper partisan dunce of epic proportions.
 
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