Being poor

Haiku said:
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More and more I don't see any functional distinction between being legally barred from doing something and being either too busy or too poor to do something.

In communism, the store is illegal; in capitalism, the store is legal but you can't afford to shop there. In communism, the shelves are empty; in capitalism, the shelves are full but your wallet is empty. In communism, they only make the things that people absolutely need; in capitalism, you don't buy anything you don't absolutely need. In communism, private property is illegal; in capitalism, private property is legal but you can't afford it. In communism, they don't allow you a vacation; in capitalism, you can't afford to take time off from work. In communism, a bureaucrat is always telling you what to do; in capitalism, a manager is always telling you what to do. In communism, a tiny elite enriches itself at society's expense; in capitalism, it's the same.

Same diff IMO.

Dmitri Orlov in his book "Reinventing Collapse" had a lot of good things to say about how he saw the Soviet Union as fundamentally more able (and ideologically willing) to provide basic services (food, shelter, education, medical care) to more people than the far wealthier USA, and how he believed that the society the Soviet Union built was more resilient than that of the USA.

I've read Dmitri Orlov's book and recommend it to anyone interested in what we're seeing in this country and how it's being sold.
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Thanks, I just picked up, "The Human Stain", "The Real Crash"
 
I haven't read or heard of either book...do they come recommended? I assume that's your intent...should I add them to my ever expanding list of books to read?

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These look very good...they've been added. Thanks!:)
 
Rana said:
Thanks, I just picked up, "The Human Stain", "The Real Crash"
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Damn....I hope you actually learn something from Mr. Schiff.....

August 30, 2012 – Like Ron Paul, Peter Schiff was predicting the 2008 economic meltdown long before it occurred. Schiff is the president of Euro Pacific Capital, a firm that pursues investment strategies based upon Schiff’s contrarian economic analysis. Clients who took his advice over the past decade did very well, even after the financial crisis. Both Paul and Schiff are proponents of the Austrian school of economics, which emphasizes free markets, sound money and Carl Menger’s subjective theory of value. Asked to describe what the “Austrian school” is, Schiff quipped,
“It’s kind of like you’re asking me ‘What’s Science? Or what’s astronomy, because you believe in astrology. Austrian economics is economics. Keynesianism is like a witch doctor. It’s all a bunch of nonsense, but politicians love Keynesianism, because it justifies what they want to do to get elected, which is spend more money, promise something for nothing, play Santa Claus.”
Schiff was Ron Paul’s economic advisor during the 2008 campaign.
 
christiefan915 said:
What about intelligence, education, motivation, opportunity and just plain luck?
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Intelligence is innate but barring full on developmental issues everyone has God given abilities they need to learn to exploit

Education is free in this country and available to all who choose to take advantage

Motivation is something everyone can control

Opportunities abound, you just have to see them

Thank you for agreeing with e and backing up my claim
 
I Love America said:
Intelligence is innate but barring full on developmental issues everyone has God given abilities they need to learn to exploit

Education is free in this country and available to all who choose to take advantage

Motivation is something everyone can control

Opportunities abound, you just have to see them

Thank you for agreeing with e and backing up my claim
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So you deliberately chose to be the way you are. Interesting.
 
Topspin said:
I was poor and never stole anything
Lots of poor parents
It's a shitty parent that cant get off their ass to support their offspring
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You have no understanding of what being poor really is.alot of the times there is no jobs for the poor because they dont have the money to get and education that is good enough to get you out of poverty why? Because you dont have a job. One big vicious circle that you can never seem to get ahead of.
 
wanderingbear said:
You have no understanding of what being poor really is.alot of the times there is no jobs for the poor because they dont have the money to get and education that is good enough to get you out of poverty why? Because you dont have a job. One big vicious circle that you can never seem to get ahead of.
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Don't we have public education?

Your post is nonsense. People are not helpless. Stop talking about them like they are
 
bravo said:
Damn....I hope you actually learn something from Mr. Schiff.....

August 30, 2012 – Like Ron Paul, Peter Schiff was predicting the 2008 economic meltdown long before it occurred. Schiff is the president of Euro Pacific Capital, a firm that pursues investment strategies based upon Schiff’s contrarian economic analysis. Clients who took his advice over the past decade did very well, even after the financial crisis. Both Paul and Schiff are proponents of the Austrian school of economics, which emphasizes free markets, sound money and Carl Menger’s subjective theory of value. Asked to describe what the “Austrian school” is, Schiff quipped,
“It’s kind of like you’re asking me ‘What’s Science? Or what’s astronomy, because you believe in astrology. Austrian economics is economics. Keynesianism is like a witch doctor. It’s all a bunch of nonsense, but politicians love Keynesianism, because it justifies what they want to do to get elected, which is spend more money, promise something for nothing, play Santa Claus.”
Schiff was Ron Paul’s economic advisor during the 2008 campaign.
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I haven't read the book, yet, so we will see. I am open minded, Popeye, I read anything I think I can benefit from reading. I am not like you.
 
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