Be proud of that frontrunner, GOP

What policies has he proposed?
his policies aren't that bad.
I'm more moderate then either con or lib -and his are more attractive ( in some cases) then dogmatic liberalism or reactionary conservatism.

It's his personality that is such a turn off. But then Clinton the Weasel is the same. *ugh*
 
The fact I'm even considering voting for Trump shows how bankrupt Clinton's candidacy is.
First things first - vote for Bernie in the Florida primary - then decide which I loathe least as the year goes on..

A lot of you klan woman will do so
 
well, the only thing worse than voting for Trump is voting for Clinton or Sanders....

what a dilemma...:):palm::).....ya gotta do what ya gotta do......you only get to vote once every four years and I sure ain't gonna waste it on some ridiculous third party or write in for a sure loser.....

Seriously lol. You'd think the alternatives were Reagan or John Adams.

Speaking of the Adams era in political discourse, things are way more tamed now compared to then. Somehow I think the country managed survive.

For all of his manifest warts, Trump has done the country a service even if he drops out tomorrow: he has set political correctness back at least a decade lol.

It needed to happen.
 
Hasn't he?

You apparently don't even know what his policy proposals are, yet you stated this:



And you ask why I don't believe you? :palm:

He talks in generalities about making everything great but I haven't seen anything specific. His proposals aren't why I am supporting him. I don't trust him.
 
Seriously lol. You'd think the alternatives were Reagan or John Adams.

Speaking of the Adams era in political discourse, things are way more tamed now compared to then. Somehow I think the country managed survive.

For all of his manifest warts, Trump has done the country a service even if he drops out tomorrow: he has set political correctness back at least a decade lol.

It needed to happen.

I agree that PC needs to be set back. And I agree that Trump has bashed through it. However it remains to be seen if he set it back.
 
He talks in generalities about making everything great but I haven't seen anything specific. His proposals aren't why I am supporting him. I don't trust him.

So you are aware of his policy proposals, even though you denied it earlier.

Maybe if you checked his website, or listened to his speeches...

Either way, you have no credibility.
 
I am not voting for Trump under any circumstances, but at least he isn't under investigation from the FBI. That is YOUR presumptive nominee. Be proud of YOUR frontrunner.

Well, we can start w/ the fact that I'm not a Democrat, and will never in this or the next lifetime pull the lever for Hillary Clinton.

Setting that aside, as I've said before: Hillary is a fairly run-of-the-mill dishonest & expedient political candidate. Trump is just on a completely different level. There really isn't a comparison, at all.

And beyond ALL of that - Republican primary voters had actual choices that were very quality candidates, and instead have chosen this clown. As an American with some intelligence, it's been an incredible challenge watching helplessly as voters do this. I had my fill of American stupidity in 2003. To have to go through it again on this scale is very frustrating.
 
So you are aware of his policy proposals, even though you denied it earlier.

Maybe if you checked his website, or listened to his speeches...

Either way, you have no credibility.

Oh how cute. You think you have deftly backed me in a corner. Why would I check out his website if I am not supporting him? I have been pretty clear that I support Ted Cruz. If you don't believe it that is your cross to bear.
 
Well, we can start w/ the fact that I'm not a Democrat, and will never in this or the next lifetime pull the lever for Hillary Clinton.

Setting that aside, as I've said before: Hillary is a fairly run-of-the-mill dishonest & expedient political candidate. Trump is just on a completely different level. There really isn't a comparison, at all.

And beyond ALL of that - Republican primary voters had actual choices that were very quality candidates, and instead have chosen this clown. As an American with some intelligence, it's been an incredible challenge watching helplessly as voters do this. I had my fill of American stupidity in 2003. To have to go through it again on this scale is very frustrating.

Right or wrong conservative voters are tired of being fucked over. They expect to be fucked over by the left. That is politics. They are tired of being fucked over by the likes of Boner, Grahmnest, Mcshamnesty and McCuntell. Donald Trump is nothing more than a big middle finger to a frustrated slice of the electorate who doesn't feel represented by the current crop of politicians. It is nothing more complicated than that. I don't say it is right, but I do understand. I think Trump would be a nightmare.
 
Right or wrong conservative voters are tired of being fucked over. They expect to be fucked over by the left. That is politics. They are tired of being fucked over by the likes of Boner, Grahmnest, Mcshamnesty and McCuntell. Donald Trump is nothing more than a big middle finger to a frustrated slice of the electorate who doesn't feel represented by the current crop of politicians. It is nothing more complicated than that. I don't say it is right, but I do understand. I think Trump would be a nightmare.

Goes to show how credulous conservatives are.
 
Does it? Why?

You said it yourself. Cons are suckers.

Now Trump is going to fuck you over again by mouthing right-wing demagoguery to get votes.

After he's elected, you think he'll respect you in the morning?

Right or wrong conservative voters are tired of being fucked over. They expect to be fucked over by the left. That is politics. They are tired of being fucked over by the likes of Boner, Grahmnest, Mcshamnesty and McCuntell. Donald Trump is nothing more than a big middle finger to a frustrated slice of the electorate who doesn't feel represented by the current crop of politicians. It is nothing more complicated than that. I don't say it is right, but I do understand. I think Trump would be a nightmare.
 
Both sides can bitch and moan all they want about the other sides candidate(s) and/or their own; but come election day, the bottom line is this.
If you don't vote, then you're just adding leverage to the other side.
If you vote for a third party, then you're just adding leverage to the other side.
You don't get to claim that "YOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE', for what ever happens; because your actions ALLOWED things to be as they become.
You also don't get to claim some kind of moral victory, by voting for a third party; because it proves nothing, except that you're the same as those who don't vote.
We're not England who has a varying number of political parties deciding our future.

This country was founded on FREEDOM and that also means the FREEDOM to vote; but the voting record for the US is abysmal.
I personally believe that someone who doesn't vote during the primaries, should be allowed to vote in the general election.

Bitch and moan all you want; but vote.
 
Both sides can bitch and moan all they want about the other sides candidate(s) and/or their own; but come election day, the bottom line is this.
If you don't vote, then you're just adding leverage to the other side.
If you vote for a third party, then you're just adding leverage to the other side.
You don't get to claim that "YOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE', for what ever happens; because your actions ALLOWED things to be as they become.
You also don't get to claim some kind of moral victory, by voting for a third party; because it proves nothing, except that you're the same as those who don't vote.
We're not England who has a varying number of political parties deciding our future.

This country was founded on FREEDOM and that also means the FREEDOM to vote; but the voting record for the US is abysmal.
I personally believe that someone who doesn't vote during the primaries, should be allowed to vote in the general election.

Bitch and moan all you want; but vote.

I disagree. We need a viable 3rd party in America. The 2-party system is broken and no longer works. To continue to support it with a vote is irresponsible, imo - unless you truly believe in one of the candidates.

I won't partake in the sham that a vote for a 3rd party is a wasted vote. The only way to build up a viable alternative is to support that alternative.
 
I disagree. We need a viable 3rd party in America. The 2-party system is broken and no longer works. To continue to support it with a vote is irresponsible, imo - unless you truly believe in one of the candidates.

I won't partake in the sham that a vote for a 3rd party is a wasted vote. The only way to build up a viable alternative is to support that alternative.

I never said that we don't NEED a third party; but at this date and time, there is no viable one and that's because they have very minimal support and backing.
Who and when has any 3rd party candidate ever received over 4% of the vote, in a presidential general election?

The problem is, is that way to many of the 3rd party wants to go straight to the top; when they need to build from the bottom, ie: City Councils, Mayors, Governors, and so on.


Voting for a 3rd party candidate, during the general election, is like refusing to eat a meal at someone else's house; just because you believe that desert should be served first and wanting everyone to follow suit.
 
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