Bangkok-Chiang Mai rail project ready to begin

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Thailand and Japan are preparing to begin the first-phase construction of a high-speed rail project linking Bangkok with Chiang Mai.

The 688-kilometre rail line will have 12 stations — Bang Sue, Don Mueang, Ayutthaya, Lop Buri, Nakhon Sawan, Phichit, Phitsanulok, Sukhothai, Sri Satchanalai, Lampang, Lamphun and Chiang Mai.

The project is divided into two phases, with the first running from Bangkok to Phitsanulok for over 380km, which then continuing to Chiang Mai for a further distance of 288km.

Japan has proposed using Shinkansen-style trains, which typically reach a maximum speed of 300kph.

This is seen as a key project capable of generating benefits for Thailand’s economy, the Department of Rail Transport said, adding it will strengthen ties between Thailand and Japan and pave the way for more successful projects in the future.

Thailand also proposed Japan conduct another study on the economic benefits for areas surrounding the high-speed railway, based on examples of railway stations in Japan.

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In Thailand, where the public and many elites have historically had relatively warm views of China, Beijing has launched a multitude of efforts. These include signing content-sharing deals that enable Xinhua to be picked up in many elite outlets, extensively cultivating the local business community, using Confucius Institutes, expanding state media in Thailand, and many other efforts. Many of these efforts support the military—and, in many ways, the monarchy—and, as a result, help keep the draconian lese majeste and 112 laws in place in Thailand. For more on this subject, see my new interview with 112Watch,

https://www.cfr.org/blog/chinas-global-influence-campaign-its-effects-thailand
 
guno said:
China is watching

China’s Global Influence Campaign: Its Effects in Thailand

In Thailand, where the public and many elites have historically had relatively warm views of China, Beijing has launched a multitude of efforts. These include signing content-sharing deals that enable Xinhua to be picked up in many elite outlets, extensively cultivating the local business community, using Confucius Institutes, expanding state media in Thailand, and many other efforts. Many of these efforts support the military—and, in many ways, the monarchy—and, as a result, help keep the draconian lese majeste and 112 laws in place in Thailand. For more on this subject, see my new interview with 112Watch,

https://www.cfr.org/blog/chinas-global-influence-campaign-its-effects-thailand
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The railway is being constructed as a joint venture with Japan, not China.
 
Theywillneverlearn! said:
You almost have to forgive Guno. That useless fuck has never left his mothers basement.
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There is an existing project building a railway between Bangkok and Nongkhai. This then crosses the Mekong river and joins up with the high speed railway in Laos and Kunming. That was constructed by the Chinese but the Thais have learnt that they will attempt to shaft them at every turn. Sadly it's what they do, the Japanese drive a hard bargain as well but they will honour the contract to the letter.

The railway from Hanoi to Saigon (HCMC) will be built by the Japanese, as the Vietnamese truly loath and detest the Chinese especially after what they've done in the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands. Who would have predicted a few years back that the 7th Fleet would have berthing rights in Da Nang but that a measure of the hatred of the Vietnamese towards the Chicoms.
 
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serendipity said:
There is an existing project building a railway between Bangkok and Nongkhai. This then crosses the Mekong river and joins up with the high speed railway in Laos and Kunming. That is being constructed by the Chinese but the Thais have learnt that they will attempt to shaft them at every turn. Sadly it's what they do, the Japanese drive a hard bargain as well but they will honour the contract to the letter.

The railway from Hanoi to Saigon (HCMC) will be built by the Japanese, as the Vietnamese truly loath and detest the Chinese especially after what they've done in the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands. Who would have predicted a few years back that the 7th Fleet would have berthing rights in Da Nang but that a measure of the hatred of the Vietnamese towards the Chicoms.
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What you say does not square with me hearing that the Chinese are building factories in Vietnam, owned and controlled by the Chinese, and that they have no trouble getting labor.

R U SURE?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
What you say does not square with me hearing that the Chinese are building factories in Vietnam, owned and controlled by the Chinese, and that they have no trouble getting labor.

R U SURE?
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I don't care what you think you know, the Vietnamese detest the Chinese pure and simple. They have many reasons, not least the commandeering of the Paracel and Spratly islands plus the infamous Nine Dash Line.

Chinese trade and immigration began to increase in the earlier half of the 18th century as population and economic pressures encouraged more Chinese men to seek trade opportunities in Southeast Asia, including Vietnam. There are many ethnic Chinese there now especially in Saigon and Hanoi.
 
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serendipity said:
I don't care what you think you know, the Vietnamese detest the Chinese pure and simple. They have many reasons, not least the commandeering of the Paracel and Spratly islands plus the infamous Nine Dash Line.

Chinese trade and immigration began to increase in the earlier half of the 18th century as population and economic pressures encouraged more Chinese men to seek trade opportunities in Southeast Asia, including Vietnam. There are many ethnic Chinese there now especially in Saigon and Hanoi.
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Maybe, but China is Vietnams biggest trading partner, growing rapidly in fact.

Your story is very iffy....probably has more to do with the Vietnamese not liking foreigners generally. A Sailing Youtube Channel recently said "There is the Vietnamese price, and then there is the price charged to foreigners, which can easily be 20% more".
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Maybe, but China is Vietnams biggest trading partner, growing rapidly in fact.

Your story is very iffy....probably has more to do with the Vietnamese not liking foreigners generally. A Sailing Youtube Channel recently said "There is the Vietnamese price, and then there is the price charged to foreigners, which can easily be 20% more".
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I know that well enough, so what? The Vietnamese are realists, they hate the Chinese but they can't change their geographical location, now can they? Oh and by the way, the US is a relatively close second and gaining.

Data from the General Department of Customs shows in 2022, China is Vietnam's largest trading partner with a total two-way trade turnover of 175.57 billion USD, followed by the US (123.86 billion USD), the Republic of Korea (86.38 billion USD) and Japan (47.61 billion USD).

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Hawkeye10 said:
Maybe, but China is Vietnams biggest trading partner, growing rapidly in fact.

Your story is very iffy....probably has more to do with the Vietnamese not liking foreigners generally. A Sailing Youtube Channel recently said "There is the Vietnamese price, and then there is the price charged to foreigners, which can easily be 20% more".
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You need to keep ahead with the facts, China is losing out big time to other countries in Asia.

China is losing its place as the center of the world's supply chains. India, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, and Bangladesh are stepping up to replace the world's factory.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-trade-war-covid-companies-moving-supply-chains-2022-12
 
serendipity said:
You need to keep ahead with the facts, China is losing out big time to other countries in Asia.

China is losing its place as the center of the world's supply chains. India, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, and Bangladesh are stepping up to replace the world's factory.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-trade-war-covid-companies-moving-supply-chains-2022-12
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The Chinese have a demographics problem so if they can set up in neighboring countries with foreign labor and keep both control and the profits then the Chinese win.

Which is the game I have heard....maybe it is right and maybe it is not....but your claim that the Vietnamese are a reliable enemy of the Chinese is highly unlikely.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The Chinese have a demographics problem so if they can set up in neighboring countries with foreign labor and keep both control and the profits then the Chinese win.

Which is the game I have heard....maybe it is right and maybe it is not....but your claim that the Vietnamese are a reliable enemy of the Chinese is highly unlikely.
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So why then does the 7th Fleet have berthing rights in Da Nang but not the Chinese navy, think about that. As for companies relocating I was thinking more about non-Chinese companies.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
The Chinese have a demographics problem so if they can set up in neighboring countries with foreign labor and keep both control and the profits then the Chinese win.

Which is the game I have heard....maybe it is right and maybe it is not....but your claim that the Vietnamese are a reliable enemy of the Chinese is highly unlikely.
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They are not keeping control, multi-nationals are moving lock stock and barrel out of China.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chi...COVID policies are,tariffs from the Trump era.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chi...COVID policies are,tariffs from the Trump era.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
What you say does not square with me hearing that the Chinese are building factories in Vietnam, owned and controlled by the Chinese, and that they have no trouble getting labor.

R U SURE?
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China is investing in Vietnam... and the USA. Vietnam and China have real problems in their relationship. They fought a war in 1979, and fought a long series of minor land conflicts up until the 1990's. They continue to have minor conflicts at sea.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
your claim that the Vietnamese are a reliable enemy of the Chinese is highly unlikely.
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Let me put it like this: China invests in Taiwan, and Taiwan invests in China. Would you say the two are close allies? Is war between the two highly unlikely?
 
Guille said:
I love watching people who don't know jack shit argue. Please continue.
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You must love your own posts. China is on the verge of war with many of its neighbors, including Vietnam and Taiwan. It also has close trade ties with both. It is a very odd situation.

You know Foxconn that makes Apple iPhones in China, well it is a Taiwanese company. So iPhones are designed in the USA, and manufactured in China by a Taiwanese company.

It is a completely different situation from the Cold War with the USSR, because there was negligible trade with the USSR compared to the huge amount of trade with China.
 
Walt said:
You must love your own posts. China is on the verge of war with many of its neighbors, including Vietnam and Taiwan. It also has close trade ties with both. It is a very odd situation.

You know Foxconn that makes Apple iPhones in China, well it is a Taiwanese company. So iPhones are designed in the USA, and manufactured in China by a Taiwanese company.

It is a completely different situation from the Cold War with the USSR, because there was negligible trade with the USSR compared to the huge amount of trade with China.
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LOL, it seems to me that you're arguing with yourself, not with me.
 
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