Bam! It’s official!

[Hawkeye10]

WOKE is Anti-Human.....the misery is a feature not a bug.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I've already explained this to you in very basic terms so either you do not want to hear it or the comprehension of it is above your pay grade.

RICO in Georgia simply means two or more people engaged in two or more crimes both in furtherance of the same goal.

A conspiracy is simply two or more people engaged in a single crime.


So an example for you is if you and one other person or more conspire to rob a bank that equals a conspiracy.

If you and one or more people conspire to go on a crime spree committing two or more crimes that is RIco.


So what RICO has to do with Trump campaign election crimes is that they had two or more people pursuing many different crimes in different areas such as 'breach of election equipment, false gov't documents for electors, etc, etc, etc,.


Now truthfully i am guessing what i am saying is a comprehension grade above your paygrade and you will repeat this question again so i will bookmark this response to repeat to you later.

This is completely wrong.

For a RICO conspiracy you need an ongoing criminal cabal / organization. That is, the conspirators, over time do repeated criminal acts in furtherance of the criminal enterprise. Two guys conspiring to rob a bank doesn't meet RICO requirements. Two guys conspiring to repeatedly rob banks, and launder the proceeds, along with cover up their activities might meet the RICO requirements.

A conspiracy to commit a crime does not mean it meets RICO requirements. RICO laws were targeted at organized crime that occurs over a period of time and involves numerous criminal acts in furtherance of some organizational goal.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I don't let Derps tell me what Dems will have problems proving when we all acknowledge just upthread how superior Dems are to republi'cans' in every regard.


You guys claim Trump is clearly innocent and yet we can get his prior POTUS Admin just riddled with prosecutions and convictions. We have Trump now facing so many indictments i have lost count despite his innocence.

Meanwhile Trump and Barr could hand pick republican prosecutors and Special Prosecutors and sick them on obvious Hilary, Obama and Joe Biden crimes and yet get nothingburgers.


We Dems can nail Trump and his admin with his own republi'can' hand picked Republi'can' AG and FBI and SC and SC. And you republi'can's cannot nail Hilary, Obama or Biden when we leave your hand picked Republi'can' prosecutors in to get us.


So forgive me if i do not accept derps telling us Dems what we can and cannot go when WE RUN SHIT HERE!

The problem with the above idiocy is that QP is saying, in essence, that reducing US politics to the level of some Turd World banana republic with a tinpot dictator running things where political persecution of the opposition and quashing all free speech is perfectly fine by him so long as this particular time his side of the political spectrum gets to do it to the opposition.

It's nice to see his admission he's onboard with the US becoming a dictatorship of greedy whores so long as those in charge are of like mind to his own.

Can anyone, other than a complete asshole, be good with that kind of thinking? Is that what the US should be reduced to? QP's thinking says take a match to the constitution and every idea that the US was founded on in favor of it becoming another Zimbabwe or Venezuela...

 

[Port Tack]

Ramaswamy Offers To Write Amicus Brief To Defend Trump From Indictments

Ramaswamy took things a step further by offering both legal advice for Trump and the opportunity to write an amicus brief in his defense.

In a post on X, formerly known as Twitter, Ramaswamy noted that Fulton County publicly posted information about the indictment to its website before the grand jury had finished its work.

Is this the next guy they go after?
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/gop...-offers-to-write-amicus-brief-in-his-defense/

So, because a document was posted on a website prematurely, that means 20 people indicted for numerous felonies are allowed to walk free? Ramawammy and you are both dreaming.

 

[Port Tack]

So, do you admit that to date it looks pretty damn good that eventually Joke Biden will be found to be directly involved? After all, we already know for 100% sure he lied about knowing nothing about his son's business dealings. We know 100% for sure that he met with, had lunch and dinner with, and talked on the phone with--all for extended periods of time--with many of his son's business associates. We know 100% for sure he sent a letter to Devon Archer praising him--on official VP stationary--for partnering with his son.

We know that some of the various bank accounts money went into were Biden family accounts that Joke may have had access to.

It doesn't take much more to start putting him in the action directly, and that looks like a pretty good bet at this point.

No, Joe wasn't involved and simply talking to your sons business associates does not mean you are involved with or know about their business dealings. We also know there is no such fucking thing as "Biden family accounts". Is that the term you use to make it sound like a bank account belonging to his son is also Joe's? Nope, doesn't work that way and Jarod Kushner took in 3.1 billion last year from foreign accounts. I'm sure Trump took in a good amount as well. Bank accounts are not illegal and neither is having one or making money elsewhere and sticking it in it. Since when is writing a letter to someone illegal?

There is absolutely no fucking evidence whatsoever that Joe Biden did anything wrong and republicans have opened and closed this investigation twice already saying there is nothing there. Joe Biden does not even bother addressing these assholes because he knows very well that he never did anything illegal or unethical. The right will parrot their bullshit right up to the election simply because they need something for assholes like you to dream about. Trump is the one with 4 juries of his peers saying prosecute the criminal and prosecutors filing nearly 100 felonies against him.

 

[TOP]

No, Joe wasn't involved and simply talking to your sons business associates does not mean you are involved with or know about their business dealings. We also know there is no such fucking thing as "Biden family accounts". Is that the term you use to make it sound like a bank account belonging to his son is also Joe's? Nope, doesn't work that way and Jarod Kushner took in 3.1 billion last year from foreign accounts. I'm sure Trump took in a good amount as well. Bank accounts are not illegal and neither is having one or making money elsewhere and sticking it in it. Since when is writing a letter to someone illegal?

There is absolutely no fucking evidence whatsoever that Joe Biden did anything wrong and republicans have opened and closed this investigation twice already saying there is nothing there. Joe Biden does not even bother addressing these assholes because he knows very well that he never did anything illegal or unethical. The right will parrot their bullshit right up to the election simply because they need something for assholes like you to dream about. Trump is the one with 4 juries of his peers saying prosecute the criminal and prosecutors filing nearly 100 felonies against him.

He was absolutely involved...from the phone calls, to the meetings, to the bank accounts...And there is no one who doesn't believe that he talked about what Hunter was doing to bring in all that money...after all, Hunter was paying some of Joe's bills... But hey...all Hunter has to do is "correct" the record...

 

[Port Tack]

I'm leaning towards voting for Trump because FUCK THE DEMOCRATS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT! That is, voting for the fucker just to give the finger to those in power who want to eliminate him from politics by any means necessary rather than on a fair and open democratic vote. I'm suspecting that an increasingly large number of people are looking at what's happening and thinking the same thing.

Everyone here already knew you would be voting for trump. You have made that obvious by insinuating Biden is a criminal with no fucking evidence while your fuhrer has nearly 100 felonies facing him but think he is innocent. That is the exact same sort of blind love Nazi's had for their fuhrer 80 years ago.

 

[Port Tack]

It's called "piling on." What you see are anti-Trump prosecutors who are increasingly willing to jump on the train now that it's moving out of the station. Get him charged, get a conviction in a highly friendly venue and don't worry about the possible consequences down the road. It doesn't matter how weak the charges are. Just get a friendly judge and jury to agree to convict him on something. All that matters is convictions before the 2024 election to get him out of the race.

It's a variant of how the Left operates widely in Turd World dictatorships to manipulate the vote and stay in power. Jail the opposition. Then start working on persecuting and suppressing their supporters. Follow that with handouts and political favors to those that toe the line and are friendly to the regime.

If the assholes who tried to steal the election are not prosecuted then we are asking for it to happen again. Nothing about the charges are weak, they border treason which is punishable by death. The fact idiots like you don't think this asshole is running for re-election simply so he can claim "election interference" is astounding. Even a fair number of republicans flat out state he is running to stay out of prison and you think he stands a chance in an upcoming election?

 

[Port Tack]

Its a Uniparty.....we cant save America by voting R....look at all of the R's at the top who will not now and have never lifted a finger to oppose the persecution of Trump.

Its all over....Constitutional America is dead.

Evil Won.

You hit the nail on the head. All those republicans that you say are not lifting a finger to save your fucking criminal will also be voting and it won't be for Trump. That is a lot of republicans. Just how do you suppose that Trump has a chance in the next election when he has a significant portion of his own party that refuses to vote for him? I saw Chris Christie just passed that Hitler wannabe from Florida in the polls and he sure as shit is claiming Trump is a criminal, seems a lot of republicans are agreeing with him.

 

[Port Tack]

It doesn't take a conspiracy. All it takes is for like-minded prosecutors--that is ones that hate Trump with a passion--to see they too can bring charges now that the barndoor is open. They start piling on. No need to conspire in the least.

They can't bring charges without evidence and 4 different grand juries seem to agree that he is a criminal. Trump wins in his court of public opinion lying to dumbshits like you that will believe it. When it comes to the real courtroom none of his bullshit will apply or be allowed. Most of his bullshit excuses will not be heard in court because they are just that. I can't wait to watch the trial and see Trump wanting to scream his lies and his lawyers or the judge not allowing it.

 

[Port Tack]

No, it's opportunistic. There is clearly a movement here to keep Trump off the ballot. That's damn obvious. If that happens, then those that are bringing charges, etc., all of a sudden will lose interest in pushing their cases and most of the charges will just be dropped in favor of something more rational. The purpose was achieved.

Or, do you really think that these openly Trump hating prosecutors--and that's a provable fact--really are just looking to prosecute Trump for some crime or another and are willing to wait to do that until after the election is held, one in which Trump is looking like a likely serious candidate for election? They want him out of the race first, everything else comes second.

Joe Biden and the democrats want nothing more than for Trump to be the nominee. Numerous common sense republicans have come forward saying if Trump is the nominee then Biden will win hands down and they are right. People indicted for 100 felonies in 4 different states as well as racketeering charges don't win elections. Someone who is truely innocent wants their court date as soon as possible to clear themselves, the guilty person wants to put it off as long as possible in hopes something will change or maybe they will die before having to serve their sentence. Only a fucking idiot can't see that.

 

[Port Tack]

I don't. I think Trump is an arrogant ass and all that, but let's see:

He singularly of many top politicians who have mishandled classified documents is being charged with multiple felonies for it. For the rest, nothing was ever charged. He got hit with felonies for supposedly trying to cover this all up, yet the Hildabeast could bleach bit her server and nothing was charged for that obvious cover up, as one example.

No, he is not being charged with mishandling classified documents and the DoJ said outright that he never would have been charged if he had returned them. He is being charged for refusing to return them, lying to the DoJ and conspiring to hide them and not return them. Hillary never did anything with her server and made it totally accessible to the govt. You are lying.

On various tax crimes he's been charged with, he was charged with felonies when something like 98% of the cases for that particular crime were charged as misdemeanors. (New York charges)

He is still lying about that one. Hunter paid the tax and admitted it and that is when it is a misdemeanor.

On the DC and Georgia charges, a lot of that is taking speech as a crime and charging him for simply saying something.

Free speech excuse is pure bullshit. You don't have free speech to lie to govt and submit fraudulent documents or threaten govt officials.

There are calls he shouldn't be able to run in 2024 under the 14th Amendment too.

Let him run, it's a freebie for the democrats this time.

It all appears to me to be an effort to keep him off the ballot in 2024 far more than some effort to actually hit him for criminal activity. I can see, whether you can or not, that if he'd just shut up and gone away without trying for a second term, none of this--NONE OF THIS--would be happening. There'd be ZERO attempts to charge him for shit.
I see it as totally politically motivated with anything criminal just being peripheral to the matter. That is the criminal charges are to obtain a political end, not a criminal conviction.

You are an idiot, every republican with an ounce of sense knows there is no way that shithead will defeat Biden. Only the brainwashed dumfuck MAGA shithead thinks he has a chance and he most certainly would still have been charged with these crimes. None of this is political, that is again the dumbfuck MAGA shithead excuse.

 

[QP!]

This is completely wrong.

For a RICO conspiracy you need an ongoing criminal cabal / organization. That is, the conspirators, over time do repeated criminal acts in furtherance of the criminal enterprise. Two guys conspiring to rob a bank doesn't meet RICO requirements. Two guys conspiring to repeatedly rob banks, and launder the proceeds, along with cover up their activities might meet the RICO requirements.

A conspiracy to commit a crime does not mean it meets RICO requirements. RICO laws were targeted at organized crime that occurs over a period of time and involves numerous criminal acts in furtherance of some organizational goal.

Is it?

So are you saying the below did not happen and i just made it up.

11 Atlanta Public Schools educators convicted of racketeering in test cheating scandal

Was this an 'ongoing criminal cabal' or a group of people who conspired over a single goal and who took numerous actions to make it happen and Fani charged and convicted them with RICO?


I will await your answer and for you how to tell in technical application how the above successful case varies from how she is applying it to the Trump crime syndicate.

 

[Hawkeye10]

 

[Uncensored2008]

Trumps 4th indictment!


And in GA it’s on television.

6 more and you democrats get a "Idi Amin Commemorative Coin."

 

[Mr.Badguy]

From the guy that gave Epstein his sweetheart deal. Why doesn't Trump hire him? Oh wait, I think Dershowitz learned that lesson last time, people give him dirty looks at Martha's Vineyard.

 

[QP!]

The problem with the above idiocy is that QP is saying, in essence, that reducing US politics to the level of some Turd World banana republic with a tinpot dictator running things where political persecution of the opposition and quashing all free speech is perfectly fine by him so long as this particular time his side of the political spectrum gets to do it to the opposition.

It's nice to see his admission he's onboard with the US becoming a dictatorship of greedy whores so long as those in charge are of like mind to his own.

Can anyone, other than a complete asshole, be good with that kind of thinking? Is that what the US should be reduced to? QP's thinking says take a match to the constitution and every idea that the US was founded on in favor of it becoming another Zimbabwe or Venezuela...

Its the inevitability of what you guys are saying.

Don't blame me for just reporting that which you guys say.

You scream daily and for years about this obvious and denial Hilary, Obama, Biden criminality. You launch endless investigations and yet find NOTHING EVER. Is that incompetence by the GOP or mastery by the Dems?

According to you guys Trump is not only the most innocent man ever but he has never so much as told a lie. Everything he is subject to is a witch hunt. And yet not only do we catch the Trump crime syndicates with massive indictments but we get tons of convictions. ANd not just by using partisan Dems. We do it with all Republicans. His AG, his DoJ, his FBI, his SC. Is that republican incompetence or Dem mastery?

You guys live in a world of cognitive dissonance where if you wake up you have to accept either your world view of the Trump crime syndicate being this constant victim, and the Dems doing all this massive criminality and getting away with, that EITHER the Dems just dominate the US, including all republicans in a way they manipulate everything including Trumps hand picked AG, DoJ, SP, SC or perhaps the narrative you have accepted that Trump does no wrong and Dems are doing constant crime is a lie you have been fed and accepted.


What i am pointing out is that you CANNOT accept the victim complex you guys do (innocent Trump, criminal dems) and then look at the constant court outcomes without you guys saying it is bullshit ORRRRRR you give the Dems super villain level powers or control and manipulation of everyone and every element of the system.


More simply you guys are a joke who cannot cope.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Wow! He better sit up by the door with a shotgun in hand at night....MAGA minions don't take kindly to such "traitors".

MAGA morons numbers are dwindling. They're a species bordering on extinction.

Thank God

 

[Dutch Uncle]

MAGA morons numbers are dwindling. Their a species bordering on extinction.

Thank God

A slight disagreement; the MAGAt morons still exist as JPP proves daily. What's drying up is all the big money given to Trump. Meth-coated $1 and $5 bills sent into to Trump by MAGA idiots won't come close to the billions needed for a Presidential campaign.

 

[Jarod]

A slight disagreement; the MAGAt morons still exist as JPP proves daily. What's drying up is all the big money given to Trump. Meth-coated $1 and $5 bills sent into to Trump by MAGA idiots won't come close to the billions needed for a Presidential campaign.

I can’t believe these people still send him money.