I do not lie!
Average tax refund down 17 percent, IRS reports
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I do not lie!
If you're not expecting a refund, that's fine. If you're expecting one, though, then you're effectively giving the government an interest-free loan.
I'm not wrong...you are. You double down on being wrong simply because you don't want to give anyone else the satisfaction of admitting they're right. So it becomes an ego thing for you because you're too emotionally fragile to confront the fact that you are not as clever, informed, or savvy as you want people to believe.
The truth is that you have bad judgment, shit instincts, and rotten character. That explains your attraction to Conservatism and wannabe tough guys like Trump.
Bullshit.
Callinectes
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Don't care, I explained that yesterday
What argument?
There you go again, don't care
Fairness has nothing to do with it, and I don't even think you know what YOUR "chief fundamental economic belief" is, much less mine
Sorry, guess the FUCKING IRS is wrong. Like I said, you should call them and talk them into using your system. This is my last post to this stupid thread. My points(and I believe they have been pretty easy to comprehend) have been:
1) The IRS COLLECTS revenue, the rest of the government CONSUMES revenue(with the possible exception of the treasury, which stores and distributes revenue to government entities)
2) The IRS reports to you, the clueless, mouth breathing tax payer waiting for your refund, that they have collected ever increasing amounts of revenue, each FISCAL year(even provided you with a o-fic-e-all gubmint IRS graph showing this), and you're still all "but, but, but...CALENDAR YEAR!!!"
3) I got a fucking tax cut, I don't care if you got a fucking refund cut
4) My "chief fundamental economic belief" is NOT that tax cuts increase revenue through increased economic activity(although I might turn that around and say that increased economic activity would logically increase tax revenue, and a smart guy would start thinking about tax cuts at this point), no, my "chief fundamental economic belief" is if I keep more of the money I earn, I'll probably increase MY economic activity, and I still won't give a rat's ass if the damn government has to scrimp a little. So the fact that the "Russia" Tax Cut isn't included in the table don't mean shit to me. If at the end of the FISCAL year, you want to look at that graph again, and you find that revenue is down, come back and throw it in my face and gloat, I'll just laugh my ass off. OTOH, if it continues it's upward trend, come back and throw THAT in my face and watch me get pissed off. Enjoy your tax refund play station, you and your little friends will have something to do after school!
It matters because what you are using to defend your Russia Tax Cut doesn't even cover the Russia Tax Cut!
You were so stupid, you thought that the IRS link you used showed revenue grew for 2018 when the link said it grew for 2017.
You misrepresented it because you do sloppy, rushed work to go along with your sloppy, rushed personality.
Revenue did not increase in 2018 vs. 2017, it decreased thanks to your shitty Russia Tax Cut and solely because of your shitty Russia Tax Cut.
That revenue grew in 2018.
Did you forget what you were arguing?
It happens when you're a piece of shit who doesn't know anything and is making it all up as you go.
It's not that you don't care.
It's that you don't want to accept facts because they ruin this fantasy you've constructed for yourself.
You all said that the Russia Tax Cut would increase economic activity which increases revenue.
Except that "economic activity" in 2018 was the same as it was in 2015, when there was no tax cut. Revenues for 2018 were 2% below revenues for 2017.
So nothing you say or use to defend your fundamental beliefs are correct.
You're just making this shit up as you go, trying to move goalposts post-hoc like a lightweight.
We are talking about you, and the justification you use to defend your shitty policy.
You believe that cutting taxes results in more money in your pocket, which means more economic activity.
Except that after 12 months of your shitty tax cut, economic activity was no better than it was 4 years ago, before your Russia Tax Cut.
So cutting taxes doesn't increase economic activity.
So we can toss that aside since we're both in agreement that increasing after-tax income does not increase economic activity.
And we know it doesn't because we have the GDP growth rate for 2018, which was identical to the GDP growth rate in 2015, before the Russia Tax Cut.
No, you're wrong and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about because you cannot stand the fact that I am pointing out that your shitty Russia Tax Cut didn't deliver on any of the promises or predictions you people made of your garbage policy.
You're a bunch of frauds and lightweights.
The IRS collects revenue year-round, and you file your tax return on the previous calendar year's earnings.
So we can certainly compare revenue collected over 2018 vs. 2017 and when we do that, we see that 2018 revenues are 2% less than 2017.
Your whole screech was that it was unfair for me to count a full calendar year of revenue vs. the prior year because you argued that the FY begins in April, when for the government, it begins in October.
So you were wrong twice in the same fucking thought.
Furthermore, it doesn't matter when the FY starts because the Russia Tax Cut started on the calendar year.
MORON, when you file your taxes it is always on the calendar year, not the fiscal year.
Wow.
You've never done your taxes, have you?
I don't believe you and this is something you will never prove on these boards because you're a coward and a liar.
But that didn't happen in the economy last year.
Last year, the economy grew at the same rate it did 4 years ago, without a tax cut.
So I don't believe you when you say you will increase your economic activity if your after-tax income increases because it's a personal anecdote of which you will refuse to verify the truthfulness. You're just bullshitting us here because you know you can make any anonymous claim of yourself and there's no way anyone can verify it. So you use those lies as a way to lend your argument credibility it doesn't otherwise have on the facts.
Well, you're the one who says you will increase your economic activity if your after-tax income is increased, yet the data from last year shows that you're either lying, or you're the exception because economic growth last year was identical to economic growth 4 years ago...only 4 years ago, there was no tax cut and the deficit was reduced.
Since tax revenues are collected year round, and since the Russia Tax Cut started on January 1st, we don't need to wait for the end of the FY. We have the data already from the calendar year. The fact that the IRS reports on a FY doesn't change that your shitty tax cut started on the calendar year.
You are trying to shift the goalposts to delay the inevitable.
BTW - revenue for the FY inclusive of the Russia Tax Cut is still below the prior year's to this point.
What exactly does the IRS' fiscal year have to do with you increasing your personal economic activity thanks to the Russia Tax Cut?