Aug. jobless rate hits 9.7% with businesses 'reluctant to hire'

TuTu Monroe

A Realist
Remember when Obama said if we hurried up and passed the stimulus bill, unemployment wouldn't go over 8%?

By Paul Wiseman, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The nation's jobless rate rose last month to 9.7% in August, the highest level since 1983 and a sign that the labor market remains weak even as the economy shows signs of recovery.

The economy also shed 216,000 jobs in August, down from a loss of 276,000 jobs in July, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said Friday. Job losses now total 6.9 million since the recession began in December 2007.

The jobs report sent "mixed messages," says Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist for IHS Global Insight. The August unemployment rate was higher than expected and reversed a drop in July, but the number of jobs lost during the month was a little lower than expected and well below the average 560,000 jobs lost every month in the first half of the year.

"It's still a weak report," says Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group. "But having said that, it is showing that the rate of layoffs and the rate of job losses are starting to tail off."

The jobless rate rose partly because more workers entered the job market, apparently hoping the worst is over.
If laid-off workers who have settled for part-time work or have given up looking for new jobs are included, the so-called underemployment rate reached 16.8%, the highest on records dating from 1994.

There are now 14.9 million Americans unemployed.
Wages rose 6 cents to $18.65 an hour — "a bit of a surprise since we do have a lot of people looking for work," says Joel Naroff of Naroff Economic Advisors. A higher minimum wage took effect at the end of July.

The average workweek remained at a lackluster 33.1 hours – a key number because employers are reluctant to hire new workers when they can schedule more hours for existing staff.
Recent reports have suggested the economy is starting to recover. The Institute for Supply Management reported Tuesday that manufacturing expanded in August for the first time in more than a year and a half. Home sales are also showing signs of recovery.

But the labor market remains weak: Employers are unlikely to add jobs until the recovery is well underway. PNC's Hoffman predicts unemployment will peak at 10% in the first quarter. "The unemployment rate is the caboose of the economic train," he says.

"There's usually a two-quarter lag" between the end of a recession and a recovery in the labor market. For now, "businesses are doing far less firing. But they're still reluctant to hire."
 
where the hell are all the "jobless recovery" crowd who bashed the "bush economy"?

Desh?
UScitizen?

you guys are hypocrites.
 
I'm just astounded in the face of nearly double the unemployment numbers, they simply go on believeing their messiah is delivering us all from evil.

fucking delusional bunch. Especially the UScitizen moron. The guy was so proud of predicting economic demise every week, b ut now the fatass douchebag has not a peep to say.

LOL
 
Tutu, do you remember when Reagan came into office during the Carter recession? That was 1980. The unemployment figure you posted reached its high THREE YEARS LATER. That means Reagan failed to produce a recovery of jobs (read: falling job numbers) for three years straight.

How long has Obama had in office to correct the Bush recession? About six months or so.

By the way, the Bush recession is also deeper than the Carter recession.
 
where the hell are all the "jobless recovery" crowd who bashed the "bush economy"?

Desh?
UScitizen?

you guys are hypocrites.

Huh? I always said this would be a bad one. Not like some who said wit would be over by first quarter of this year and just an adjustment. I also recall some on here giving me a hard time for saying that.

Remember toppy saying last fall about this time, what recession the parking lots are full?

Seems like I recall you being in with that crowd.
I could be wrong though. I get bush supporters confused.

Check back thru my posts if you want, I never said Obama would fix things in a hurry.
 
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Huh? I always said this would be a bad one. Not like some who said wit would be over by first quarter of this year and just an adjustment. I also recall some on here giving me a hard time for saying that.

Remember toppy saying last fall about this time, what recession the parking lots are full?

Seems like I recall you being in with that crowd.
I could be wrong though. I get bush supporters confused.

Check back thru my posts if you want, I never said Obama would fix things in a hurry.

Who said you should be claiming it's getting fixed? I'm just wondering why you aren't harping on day after day anymore?

LOL
 
Tutu, do you remember when Reagan came into office during the Carter recession? That was 1980. The unemployment figure you posted reached its high THREE YEARS LATER. That means Reagan failed to produce a recovery of jobs (read: falling job numbers) for three years straight.

How long has Obama had in office to correct the Bush recession? About six months or so.

By the way, the Bush recession is also deeper than the Carter recession.

And I sure if we go back we can see three straight years of regan bashing.

Go take some pictures, cameraboy.
 
where the hell are all the "jobless recovery" crowd who bashed the "bush economy"?

Desh?
UScitizen?

you guys are hypocrites.

Yeah - and there is nothing hypocritical in your new pal Tutu.

Get a life. You've become a real rightie hack out of nothing but your hate for liberals. You're not even thinking anymore...
 
The Obama administration's must take on several enormous challenges left by the failed policies of the GOP, including the repair of the financial sector, disengaging from Bush's two lost wars, and addressing climate change. The federal government needs to hire more than 270,000 workers for "mission-critical" jobs over the next three years.
 
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And tinny - you're an imbecile if you think the "Obama economy" is in any way comparable to the "Bush economy." Bush inherited a fairly decent economy, and a surplus, and he had NO economic plan whatsoever. He was in charge & the steward of the economy during the biggest meltdown since the Great Depression.

8 months in, and you're comparing Obama to that? We're actually turning around, if you look at some of the fundamentals, and quite frankly, we're in a spot that exceeded my expectations for this time period.

You've become nothing but a predictable, dumb hack.
 
Tutu, do you remember when Reagan came into office during the Carter recession? That was 1980. The unemployment figure you posted reached its high THREE YEARS LATER. That means Reagan failed to produce a recovery of jobs (read: falling job numbers) for three years straight.

How long has Obama had in office to correct the Bush recession? About six months or so.

By the way, the Bush recession is also deeper than the Carter recession.

I hate to keep pointing out how freekin' dumb you are, but you force me to....

The Carter recession produced interest rates in excess of 14.7% and unemployment hit at least 10.8.....

Before you guzzle any more Koolade, tell me how the "Bush", Obama recession is deeper....
 
And I sure if we go back we can see three straight years of regan bashing.

Go take some pictures, cameraboy.

But not three straight years of Reagan bashing from conservatives. It's hypocritical for these people to be here now saying Obama's had more than enough time to fix this.
 
And tinny - you're an imbecile if you think the "Obama economy" is in any way comparable to the "Bush economy." Bush inherited a fairly decent economy, and a surplus, and he had NO economic plan whatsoever. He was in charge & the steward of the economy during the biggest meltdown since the Great Depression.

8 months in, and you're comparing Obama to that? We're actually turning around, if you look at some of the fundamentals, and quite frankly, we're in a spot that exceeded my expectations for this time period.

You've become nothing but a predictable, dumb hack.

Ummm, Bush inherited an economy that was on the verge of a recession. It was over-heated and no place to go, but down. I suppose you have forgotten the .com bubble burst, etc., etc., at the end of Clinton's term and the outsourcing of thousands of jobs.

Speaking of the surplus, we wouldn't have had one if Clinton hadn't stolen the money from SS and did some pencil-pushing to get the surplus. He would had had another deficit. Very coy of him, don't you think?

How is the economy turning around? We are still losing jobs. Methinks you are a dreamer.
 
When the Shrub & company stole into their second term, and the economy was beginning to circle the drain, the neocon parrots and pundits immediately pointed the finger at the dot com bubble burst courtesy of Slick Willy as the culprit.

Well, this country was in a freaking recession BEFORE the Shrub finished his last year....no thanks to his policies of "stimulus checks", corporate welfare for banks and Wall St. bail outs. And now Obama is expected to complete a economic miracle with the mess he has inherited in less than a year.

What can you expect from willfully ignorant neocon parrots that call healthcare reform "unconstitutional"?
 
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Ummm, Bush inherited an economy that was on the verge of a recession. It was over-heated and no place to go, but down. I suppose you have forgotten the .com bubble burst, etc., etc., at the end of Clinton's term and the outsourcing of thousands of jobs.

Speaking of the surplus, we wouldn't have had one if Clinton hadn't stolen the money from SS and did some pencil-pushing to get the surplus. He would had had another deficit. Very coy of him, don't you think?

How is the economy turning around? We are still losing jobs. Methinks you are a dreamer.

Bush inherited a mild downturn, that was reflective of the usual cycle. The fact remains: he has NO economic policy, and was asleep at the wheel w/ everything that was brewing.

I don't know why I should even try to address your last comment. Do you read the news? Ever check the 'business section'?

Pay attention.
 
Bush inherited a mild downturn, that was reflective of the usual cycle. The fact remains: he has NO economic policy, and was asleep at the wheel w/ everything that was brewing.

I don't know why I should even try to address your last comment. Do you read the news? Ever check the 'business section'?

Pay attention.

Obama doesn't know what he is doing and is clueless.

Yes, I have my private courier bring me the business and world news daily.

The economy has stabilized, but if the deficit isn't reduced, any recovery won't be strong and sustained. That's a fact.
 
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