atheists go to heaven: the Pope

ThatOwlWoman said:
Fascinating. Why, that verse describes almost all of the JPP self-professed Xtians.

Maybe this will help clear up the confusion among the Xtians here on how I see them/see things. You say you're Christian. I'm cool with that. You see that in one of my posts that I'm defending, for example, the right of a gay couple to get married and enjoy all the legal rights that me and my husband enjoy. You fly into a rant about sin and sinners and abominations and quote Scripture and call both me and the gay couple damned. Later, you see someone discussing why they think Trump is a horrid leader. You flip your switch to Satan Mode and call him despicable names and condemn him to Hell as well. I mean the commenter, not Trump. Nope, your kinda Christian will NEVER condemn Trump no matter what he does because you see him as some sort of tool of god to make all the shit you wish for in America come true. Hahaha, joke's on you! We all see the hypocrisy in you not condemning an adulterous, lying, swindling, gluttonous, false-witness-bearing person -- but those who criticize him are hell-bound.

Then there are ppl like Leaningright and Stretch who are also self-professed Christians. They might quote Scripture a bit too much for the rest of our comfort, but they don't devolve into personal attacks, name-calling, and consigning ppl to their Hell. Yeah, they're often irritating.... lol. But to me (a non-Xtian who was raised as one), they exemplify their Christ a lot better than do the screaming, cursing, ugly, racist, hateful Xtians we've seen here.
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Well, there is no such thing as gay marriage. There is marriage, and that is that. Now, if society wants to make-up new definitions to things, and follow those made-up definitions to their conclusion, then go nuts.
 
"Well, there is no such thing as gay marriage. There is marriage, and that is that. Now, if society wants to make-up new definitions to things, and follow those made-up definitions to their conclusion, then go nuts." T #361
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I sincerely appreciate the egalitarian sentiment.

BUT !!

It ignores history.
For most of human history "marriage" in that sense referred to the matrimonial bond between one man, and one woman.

So the definition was actually expanded to accord marital discord to all.
 
Boris The Animal said:
Actually, we do know. Revelation 20 talks of the Great White Throne and all unbelievers will be there.

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Stretch said:
Who is threatening you? You're argument is with God, not us. All I can do is present what God says about salvation. The rest? It's between you and God. Fight it out with him.....or not if he doesn't interest you.
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No, you present what you want to believe about salvation.
 
countryboy said:
Fascinating, it actually describes every single LWNJ here at JPP. But I guess since the majority of you are non believers, it's perfectly okay for you to be hate filled. Right?
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you are the ones who want children to go without food and shelter, medical care, education and the like
 
Threedee said:
Well, there is no such thing as gay marriage. There is marriage, and that is that. Now, if society wants to make-up new definitions to things, and follow those made-up definitions to their conclusion, then go nuts.
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Good point.

I'm pretty sure that you saw the years of finger wagging, screeching, and wailing from the Xtian right though when SSM was in the process of being made legal. According to them, not only were the couples themselves Hell-bound, so were their supporters.
 
sear said:
I sincerely appreciate the egalitarian sentiment.

BUT !!

It ignores history.
For most of human history "marriage" in that sense referred to the matrimonial bond between one man, and one woman.

So the definition was actually expanded to accord marital discord to all.
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that's the fake, made up part.......
 
at one time not believing the earth was flat would get you burned in hell for ever


did those people get repealed from hell when that church policy changed?
 
countryboy said:
Fascinating, it actually describes every single LWNJ here at JPP. But I guess since the majority of you are non believers, it's perfectly okay for you to be hate filled. Right?
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Says a lot about you and your so-called belief about freedom that you think that someone who disagrees with your POV is hating. You're gazing into your mirror again.
 
evince said:
at one time not believing the earth was flat would get you burned in hell for ever
did those people get repealed from hell when that church policy changed?
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Heh, good point. Sometimes if you mentioned that out loud, it would get you burned alive at the stake as well.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Good point.

I'm pretty sure that you saw the years of finger wagging, screeching, and wailing from the Xtian right though when SSM was in the process of being made legal. According to them, not only were the couples themselves Hell-bound, so were their supporters.
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I think their supporters have a lot more to answer for than they do.
 
Boris The Animal said:
Actually, we do know. Revelation 20 talks of the Great White Throne and all unbelievers will be there.

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Stretch said:
So, you won't talk to God because you think he won't answer you (at least the way YOU expect an answer).
I can only post God's Word. His Word is how he speaks and responds to us. Take it or leave it.
We have only 2 choices. Life or death...and then the Lord is even loving enough to GIVE us right answer!
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But not loving enough to provide any proof that it is the right answer. Without proof, it's just another con job.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Heh, good point. Sometimes if you mentioned that out loud, it would get you burned alive at the stake as well.
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which means the church KILLED people for lies


they lied about god burning people in hell forever based one lies they were protecting.


this is why no church should be growing bigger than a neighborhood church.


it creates a power structure for evil to control


jesus should be in your heart not in a power structure that can wield enough power to kill people
 
Stretch said:
Sales? Over and over I say, take it or leave it, make your own choice, do what you want, etc.
If someone begins a thread on religious matters, expect to see religious discussions with varying statements of belief.
If you have absolutely no belief in God or interest in God why come in and do nothing but complain about those who do?
So, again for the umpteenth time, it's not my place to "convince" anyone of anything. The Lord did not saddle believers with that job. All believers can do is plant the seed (Word)...it's up to the Holy Spirit to "convince" within the individual's heart and for the Lord to harvest.
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And there's equally no evidence for that.
 
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sear said:
I sincerely appreciate the egalitarian sentiment.

BUT !!

It ignores history.
For most of human history "marriage" in that sense referred to the matrimonial bond between one man, and one woman.

So the definition was actually expanded to accord marital discord to all.
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:rofl2:
 
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