At Least 1 Dead in Shooting at Texas Church

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Use me as an example. I don't own any guns nor do I have a criminal record. Let's say I decide I want to go shoot someone. What legislation would you propose that would not allow me to purchase a gun that doesn't exist today that would prevent me from carrying out such a criminal act?

"not allow you to purchase a gun," probably none, just make it difficult for you obtain the weapon giving you time to reconsider "shooting someone"

Think of it this way, there exists three elements to every mass shooting: the shooter, the target, and the weapon. There is little we can do about identifying the next Stephen Paddock, and the targets are so numerous we can't defend them all, but we can act on the weapon that makes it all possible

 

[Teflon Don]

Good guy with a gun stops a crazy leftist

Thank god

 

[volsrock]

Arduous process?

Make it similar to autos, we all jump hurdles to get a car on the road, but that hasn't stopped those who really want one, anything is worth the effort unless you want to live with mass shootings, school shootings, and church shootings as routine

Name one law that stops a drunk from driving a car

Name one law that stops a Terrorist from getting a box truck and ramming a crowd killing 50 plus

Mass shootings represent a VERY VERY tiny share of all shooting deaths
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[SmarterthanYou]

No one has to change the Constitution, no Constitutional right is absolute, even Scalia in his wacky "orginailaism" theory conceded regulation was Constitutional

only failed american idiots think rights are alienable and can be regulated.......................rational and logical people call that 'permissions', not rights.

 

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Good guy with a gun stops a crazy leftist

Thank god

Yeah, Stephen Paddock stopped a lot of crazy leftists

 

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only failed american idiots think rights are alienable and can be regulated.......................rational and logical people call that 'permissions', not rights.

Name one right mentioned in the Constitution that isn't regulated

 

[cawacko]

"not allow you to purchase a gun," probably none, just make it difficult for you obtain the weapon giving you time to reconsider "shooting someone"

Think of it this way, there exists three elements to every mass shooting: the shooter, the target, and the weapon. There is little we can do about identifying the next Stephen Paddock, and the targets are so numerous we can't defend them all, but we can act on the weapon that makes it all possible

In this scenario what is going to prevent me from buying a gun on the black market? (and that's not a rhetorical question) To me, if I'm intent on shooting someone I'm not going to worry about whether I purchase my gun legally or not.

 

[Into the Night]

Three people were shot, now imagine how many wouldn't have been shot if the perk hadn't been able to get his hands on a gun?

But he did.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Name one right mentioned in the Constitution that isn't regulated

just because you sheeple allow it, doesn't make it constitutionally correct. it's why most of you liberals are completely ignorant on the constitution, freedom terrifies you. conservatives aren't much different.

 

[Into the Night]

Name one right mentioned in the Constitution that isn't regulated

To 'regulate' something means to make 'regular', or consistent. It does not mean 'restriction' or 'limitation'.

The Constitution does not give any right. Rights are inherent. The Constitution declares and organizes government and describes the powers and authorities it has. In the case of the U.S. Constitution, it also lists certain binding agreements the States have made with each other and also gives the federal government authority to enforce these agreements.

One of these agreements is the right to bear arms by the people. The 2nd amendment does not specify what type of arm, therefore ANY arm will do. Swords, knives, guns (including machine guns), brass knuckles, etc., are legal. No layer of government in the United States can constitutionally pass any law to ban or limit them.

The right to self defense is inherent. It does not come from the 2nd amendment.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I don't know, in a similar attack yesterday based upon religion in New York, a State with strong gun regulations, a knife had to be employed, now if that was Texas the pert could have mowed down the entire gathering in minutes

so you're saying you don't really give a damn about people being hurt or killed, just HOW they are hurt or killed.

 

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Name one law that stops a drunk from driving a car

Name one law that stops a Terrorist from getting a box truck and ramming a crowd killing 50 plus

Mass shootings represent a VERY VERY tiny share of all shooting deaths
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Has not drunk driving deaths declines dramatically since DWI laws were enforced?

How many terrorists have gotten a truck and rammed a crowd killing 50 plus compared to the hundreds of mass shootings we've had killing thousands

There were 406 mass shootings in 2019, and that includes schools, churches, theaters, malls, parking lots, nightclubs, etc., and you are telling us that is acceptable?

 

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In this scenario what is going to prevent me from buying a gun on the black market? (and that's not a rhetorical question) To me, if I'm intent on shooting someone I'm not going to worry about whether I purchase my gun legally or not.

As I said, little, you are going to the extreme, and how many people are going to resort to a "black market," you going travel into the Tenderloin to pick up a piece?

 

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just because you sheeple allow it, doesn't make it constitutionally correct. it's why most of you liberals are completely ignorant on the constitution, freedom terrifies you. conservatives aren't much different.

So you can't, says it all

 

[volsrock]

Yeah, stopped a lot of crazy leftists

You will NEVER stop the Stephen Paddocks of the world, people like him will find a way to kill..he had the $$ to buy guns on the streets

Just like u will NEVER stop the guy that gets a box truck to kill

Now if the next Stephen Paddock goes to shooting at a mall etc, and a good guy with a gun is close by may stop him...Just like the guy in the church was stopped

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Has not drunk driving deaths declines dramatically since DWI laws were enforced?

How many terrorists have gotten a truck and rammed a crowd killing 50 plus compared to the hundreds of mass shootings we've had killing thousands

There were 406 mass shootings in 2019, and that includes schools, churches, theaters, malls, parking lots, nightclubs, etc., and you are telling us that is acceptable?

stop limiting or denying peoples RIGHT to defend themselves, you'll see less of these shootings. where this RIGHT is not limited or denied, the number of casualties is on the people refusing to exercise that right.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

So you can't, says it all

again, just because you allow it, doesn't make it correct.

 

[cawacko]

As I said, little, you are going to the extreme, and how many people are going to resort to a "black market," you going travel into the Tenderloin to pick up a piece?

You're talking about people who want to shoot people not having guns. I'm not a gun person so I have no idea how easy or difficult it is to get a gun not purchased legally in a store. I'm guessing like drugs and other items it's probably not all that difficult. So even if you pass legislation that would take me months to legally buy a guy I still have options to get a gun elsewhere if I so desire.

 

[Centerleftfl]

This is rare, an in church PHOTO as it was happening. There was live streaming so we can assume it is ALL on tape.

 

[volsrock]

As I said, little, you are going to the extreme, and how many people are going to resort to a "black market," you going travel into the Tenderloin to pick up a piece?

Someone determined to kill like Stephen Paddock, u can get a gun as easy as u can get Meth on the street