Argentina votes in election rocked by right wing radical candidate

BidenPresident said:
Good assessment. They think lying is acceptable because Trump does it.
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We see a lot of Trumpian influence these days. Notice that a lot of congressmen who opposed Jordan received threats. Many Republican politicians are afraid to publicly oppose Trump because of fear for their safety and their family’s safety
 
domer76 said:
Authoritarian and gerrymandering. Doing away with the Constitution.

You just described Trump and the MAGAt Republicans.
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Ha! The worst gerrymandering in the last cycle of setting congressional districts came from the Democrats.

Illinois Democrats drew new maps. The changes pushed the GOP to the right.
The state’s congressional redistricting illustrates how gerrymandering hollows out the political center and strengthens the fringe, experts say. It also helps explain Kevin McCarthy’s downfall.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/07/illinois-congressional-map-gerrymandering/

Radical Leftist, pro-Democrat Vox cheers that Democrats gerrymandered heavily while excusing it using a tu quoque fallacy--Well, the Republicans do it too!

How Democrats learned to stop worrying and love the gerrymander
Republicans tilted the House map. Democrats are clawing their way back.
https://www.vox.com/22961590/redistricting-gerrymandering-house-2022-midterms

Illinois was one of the worst modern gerrymanders period!

Illinois May Be The Worst Democratic Gerrymander In The Country
https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/illinois-may-be-the-worst-democratic-gerrymander-in-the-country/

Court rules N.Y. Democrats gerrymandered congressional map
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ats-gerrymandered-congressional-map-rcna25549

The court had to step in to do reasonable districts in NY because the Democrats gerrymandered so much

Democrats Lose Control of N.Y. Election Maps, as Top Court Rejects Appeal
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/27/nyregion/redistricting-congress-gerrymander-ny.html

Doing away with the constitution?

Democrats want to

Eliminate the 2nd Amendment
Pretty much squash free speech by government control of social media. Remember Biden's attempt to install a "Disinformation Czar?"
Eliminate freedom of religion


Authoritarian?

Democrats want to tell you
What kind of car you can buy and drive (EV's only in under a decade)
What kind of stove, water heater, etc., you can have (no gas appliances)
What kind of house you can buy (essentially by pricing everyone but the rich out of being able to afford a house, or like in California changing zoning to encourage multi-unit (duplex, triplex, and apartments) over single family homes)
Where and when you can travel
Healthcare mandates

Democrats also want
One-size fits all government run healthcare with no alternatives
One-size fits all government run public education with no alternatives
Government run retirement programs with no alternatives
Forced union membership for workers

Question any of that and you get audited by the IRS, investigated by the FBI, and potentially arrested for not being a good party member. If you buck what they want at a university you get kicked out. In you do it at work or school, they send you to (variously) sensitivity, diversity, or other politically correct training that amounts to forced indoctrination.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Ha! The worst gerrymandering in the last cycle of setting congressional districts came from the Democrats.

Illinois Democrats drew new maps. The changes pushed the GOP to the right.
The state’s congressional redistricting illustrates how gerrymandering hollows out the political center and strengthens the fringe, experts say. It also helps explain Kevin McCarthy’s downfall.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/07/illinois-congressional-map-gerrymandering/

Radical Leftist, pro-Democrat Vox cheers that Democrats gerrymandered heavily while excusing it using a tu quoque fallacy--Well, the Republicans do it too!

How Democrats learned to stop worrying and love the gerrymander
Republicans tilted the House map. Democrats are clawing their way back.
https://www.vox.com/22961590/redistricting-gerrymandering-house-2022-midterms

Illinois was one of the worst modern gerrymanders period!

Illinois May Be The Worst Democratic Gerrymander In The Country
https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/illinois-may-be-the-worst-democratic-gerrymander-in-the-country/

Court rules N.Y. Democrats gerrymandered congressional map
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ats-gerrymandered-congressional-map-rcna25549

The court had to step in to do reasonable districts in NY because the Democrats gerrymandered so much

Democrats Lose Control of N.Y. Election Maps, as Top Court Rejects Appeal
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/27/nyregion/redistricting-congress-gerrymander-ny.html

Doing away with the constitution?

Democrats want to

Eliminate the 2nd Amendment
Pretty much squash free speech by government control of social media. Remember Biden's attempt to install a "Disinformation Czar?"
Eliminate freedom of religion


Authoritarian?

Democrats want to tell you
What kind of car you can buy and drive (EV's only in under a decade)
What kind of stove, water heater, etc., you can have (no gas appliances)
What kind of house you can buy (essentially by pricing everyone but the rich out of being able to afford a house, or like in California changing zoning to encourage multi-unit (duplex, triplex, and apartments) over single family homes)
Where and when you can travel
Healthcare mandates

Democrats also want
One-size fits all government run healthcare with no alternatives
One-size fits all government run public education with no alternatives
Government run retirement programs with no alternatives
Forced union membership for workers

Question any of that and you get audited by the IRS, investigated by the FBI, and potentially arrested for not being a good party member. If you buck what they want at a university you get kicked out. In you do it at work or school, they send you to (variously) sensitivity, diversity, or other politically correct training that amounts to forced indoctrination.
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Yep, when I describe the RW tards on this forum as delusional, as liars, as bullshitters, you just go right ahead a prove my point.

Thanks
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Then, what does the Left supposedly want? How about some actual examples.

Here's some I would cite of Leftist governments wanting authoritarian control of society:

Castro's Cuba
The Kim Jong family in N. Korea
Robert Mugabe Zimbabwe
Chavez / Maduro Venezuela
Ortega and the Sandinistas Nicaragua
PRI in Mexico
Xi and the Chinese Communist Party in China

All hard Left, all massively authoritarian control of society.
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All preferable to MAGAts.
 
domer76 said:
We see a lot of Trumpian influence these days. Notice that a lot of congressmen who opposed Jordan received threats. Many Republican politicians are afraid to publicly oppose Trump because of fear for their safety and their family’s safety
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It is a very real and serious problem for the safety of our nation.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Prove any of that wrong. Go ahead, I dare you.
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Jesus Christ, pal, I don’t have the time or inclination to dive into every fucking lie or distortion you posted there.

Gerrymandering:

Ohio, Wisconsin, N. Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida

There’s even a name for it. REDMAP. Heather Cox Richardson has a great take on R gerrymandering. Look it up

You can buy and will be able to buy any of those cars and appliances for years and decades to come. So, fucking relax, pal. You’re buying into RW propaganda.

Eliminate the 2nd and freedom of religion? You’re a fucking idiot

The rest is merely brainless RW drivel. Not worth responding to.
 
domer76 said:
Jesus Christ, pal, I don’t have the time or inclination to dive into every fucking lie or distortion you posted there.

Gerrymandering:

Ohio, Wisconsin, N. Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida

There’s even a name for it. REDMAP. Heather Cox Richardson has a great take on R gerrymandering. Look it up

You can buy and will be able to buy any of those cars and appliances for years and decades to come. So, fucking relax, pal. You’re buying into RW propaganda.

Eliminate the 2nd and freedom of religion? You’re a fucking idiot

The rest is merely brainless RW drivel. Not worth responding to.
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I never said the Republicans don't do it too, they do. The Democrats do it just as much and just a bad. That's my point, and it demolishes your position that the Republicans are the only ones wanting some authoritarianism you never proved, and gerrymander.

The Democrats are the authoritarians and they gerrymander. I proved both. So, your claim that "...just described Trump and the MAGAt Republicans." is just empty rhetorical drivel repeated as if it were some truth because everyone on the radical Left, like you, says it. Well, it's fucking false and that can be proven, which I did.

Democrats are the authoritarians and dictators. Both parties gerrymander, and the Democrats do it worse. They only get to do it in fewer states because they control fewer states.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I never said the Republicans don't do it too, they do. The Democrats do it just as much and just a bad. That's my point, and it demolishes your position that the Republicans are the only ones wanting some authoritarianism you never proved, and gerrymander.

The Democrats are the authoritarians and they gerrymander. I proved both. So, your claim that "...just described Trump and the MAGAt Republicans." is just empty rhetorical drivel repeated as if it were some truth because everyone on the radical Left, like you, says it. Well, it's fucking false and that can be proven, which I did.

Democrats are the authoritarians and dictators. Both parties gerrymander, and the Democrats do it worse. They only get to do it in fewer states because they control fewer states.
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Trump and his followers, by supporting the effort to overturn the election to remain in power, is the perfect example of the desire for authoritarian rule. Trump publicly adores strong arm leaders. He stated he would dismiss parts of the Constitution itself.

The Republicans even named their consolidated national effort to gerrymander. REDMAP. The efforts to ban mail in, drop boxes, automatic registration are merely another form of gerrymandering, designed to minimize the voting power of Dems. But you fuckers lie to disguise it as “election security”. Part of your Big Lie bullshit.

So, spare me your bullshit. With every post, no matter what the topic, you morons reinforce my point every time.

You have become the party of liars, cheaters, and bullshitters, blinded by your cult leader.
 
domer76 said:
Trump and his followers, by supporting the effort to overturn the election to remain in power, is the perfect example of the desire for authoritarian rule. Trump publicly adores strong arm leaders. He stated he would dismiss parts of the Constitution itself.

The Republicans even named their consolidated national effort to gerrymander. REDMAP. The efforts to ban mail in, drop boxes, automatic registration are merely another form of gerrymandering, designed to minimize the voting power of Dems. But you fuckers lie to disguise it as “election security”. Part of your Big Lie bullshit.

So, spare me your bullshit. With every post, no matter what the topic, you morons reinforce my point every time.

You have become the party of liars, cheaters, and bullshitters, blinded by your cult leader.
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Did it work? No. Now you're off in the realm of 'coulda, woulda, shoulda,' fantasy proposals. Trump's "followers" staged a 3 hour riot that went nowhere (I assume you are using the canard about Jan 6).

The Democrats are dismissing big chunks of the Constitution right before our eyes, no waiting, no conjecture needed.

The Democrats tried to destroy the voting system in the US with the For the Voters Act and the equally egregious John Lewis Voter's Act. Luckily both failed in Congress by narrow margins.

I'm not a Republican so the last two rants you made are irrelevant to me.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Did it work? No. Now you're off in the realm of 'coulda, woulda, shoulda,' fantasy proposals. Trump's "followers" staged a 3 hour riot that went nowhere (I assume you are using the canard about Jan 6).

The Democrats are dismissing big chunks of the Constitution right before our eyes, no waiting, no conjecture needed.

The Democrats tried to destroy the voting system in the US with the For the Voters Act and the equally egregious John Lewis Voter's Act. Luckily both failed in Congress by narrow margins.

I'm not a Republican so the last two rants you made are irrelevant to me.
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Find the “coulda”, asswipe. There never is because I deal in what is. Always.

Rant to your fellow idiots about J6. Or write to your pen pals that are spending the next decade or two in prison.

You proved my point exactly by mentioning those two laws. And you’re too fucking stupid to realize it.

Card carrying Republican or not, you’re a far right of center, Trump dick sucking apologist.
 
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