Are Incels an example of mental illness?

Are Incels (Involuntary Celebates)


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For those interested in why "Incels" have such a problem: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...201804/the-incel-involuntary-celibacy-problem
...What makes the incel community confusing to the general public is many of us have also gone through romantic rejection, job loss, and other social challenges. So what’s the difference?

I believe, psychologically speaking, that incels believe they have no sense of control, hence the term “involuntary.” While we may go through phases of rejection when it comes to dating or romance, incels may feel such a sense of defeat, rejection, and unworthiness that they start to believe it themselves, that they will be “forever alone” (FA).

In my therapy practice, some of the men I have counseled have expressed similar sexual frustrations. While they don’t self-identify as incels, I hear echoes of the same idea. They berate themselves for not feeling like they’re dateable and become highly angry at the stereotypical, attractive men and women (Chads and Stacys) who seemingly are able to effortlessly date and mate.

Part of the process is to help validate the frustrations and grief of desiring to be romantic with another person and continually facing struggles whether due to physical appearances, race and ethnicity, or other social challenges.
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Obviously these losers poor Beta Males are to be pitied. Examples of insecure, hateful people who are desperate for validation have already presented themselves on this thread.

As most mature, intelligent adults know, the Internet allows anyone inclined to do so to live a virtual life; they can be rich, successful, happily married, blah, blah, blah, but what they can't do is hide their personality for very long. Each post they make reveals more of who they are. Each post they make reveals if they are a happy person or an unhappy person.

A person who often posts hateful, accusatory lies against others obviously isn't happy. If they lie about others, why should anyone believe them about claims about themselves? If a person lies about others then claims to be, take your pick, happily married, successful, rich, etc, why should they be believed? IMHO, they should not be believed. "Once a liar, always a liar" as the saying goes. This doesn't mean such people should be hated, just pitied. They are harming no one but themselves.
 
I went w/ losers, not sure about the manners part, don't know much about them..

There are tons & tons of single, lonely ppl & many groups, social activities etc that they can get off their asses & participate in..

Even if they're butt ugly, that is no excuse, go to walmart any given night of the week, look around, almost all of those folks have someone, so can you!!!!!
 
True about Incels. I'm not a liberal but thanks for the false accusation and name-calling, it helps me understand your mentality. If you read about Incels, then you'd understand.

Tinfoil is a troll basically. He even gave the mods a warning that if they didn't ban him that's what he would do here. For awhile he was posting a lot of moronic shit from 4chan, so enough said there. I had to put him on ignore.
 
Tinfoil is a troll basically. He even gave the mods a warning that if they didn't ban him that's what he would do here. For awhile he was posting a lot of moronic shit from 4chan, so enough said there. I had to put him on ignore.
That's one possibility. IMO, and after years of observation, there are a higher number of mentally ill online than IRL. The main reasons being that facilities or, if with family, they can have access to the Internet even if they can't be let out onto the streets without assistance. This includes elderly shut-ins at retirement facilities, both those where they can leave and those that are locked-down. Note that many of the most hateful people online are often over retirement age. There are a few who are younger, kids trolling the adults, but most of them don't last long because they'll spend more time masturbating to their best friend's mother than trolling adults. ;)

As for how to handle these people, my best advice is to not worry about them. They're more harmful to themselves than anyone here. A few, the truly nutty who aren't under medical care can end up in the news, but the odds are against it since such instances are very rare. Not everyone is a Nikolas Cruz, James Holmes, James Fields, James Hodgkinson, Elliot Rodger or this guy:

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I went w/ losers, not sure about the manners part, don't know much about them..

There are tons & tons of single, lonely ppl & many groups, social activities etc that they can get off their asses & participate in..

Even if they're butt ugly, that is no excuse, go to walmart any given night of the week, look around, almost all of those folks have someone, so can you!!!!!

Agreed. A person would have to be pretty fucked up and pathetic to not be able to find a sexual partner. Therefore, IMHO, they are mentally deficient on one way or another.

Note those who were quick to defend the Incels on this thread.
 
Funny, I though incels were involuntarily celibate. Where do you liberals get the notion they demand to get laid? They lament the fact that they can't get laid, but how does mean they demand sex? What a fucking joke. Meanwhile, mentally ill transgender idiots demand to be treated like their delusion is real.
Talk about projection! You libtards are fucking ridiculous

Incel detected.
 
That's one possibility. IMO, and after years of observation, there are a higher number of mentally ill online than IRL. The main reasons being that facilities or, if with family, they can have access to the Internet even if they can't be let out onto the streets without assistance. This includes elderly shut-ins at retirement facilities, both those where they can leave and those that are locked-down. Note that many of the most hateful people online are often over retirement age. There are a few who are younger, kids trolling the adults, but most of them don't last long because they'll spend more time masturbating to their best friend's mother than trolling adults. ;)

As for how to handle these people, my best advice is to not worry about them. They're more harmful to themselves than anyone here. A few, the truly nutty who aren't under medical care can end up in the news, but the odds are against it since such instances are very rare. Not everyone is a Nikolas Cruz, James Holmes, James Fields, James Hodgkinson, Elliot Rodger or this guy:

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How long have you been @ this?? Message boards?? If I may ask
 
How long have you been @ this?? Message boards?? If I may ask

Online? Since 1986, a local BBS in Jacksonville, FL titled "Serenity". We'd meet once a quarter to drink beer and swap software on 5.25" floppies, later 3.5". I was on several professional type forums or sub-message boards once the WWW kicked in. I wasn't on actual political forums until 2009. Yeah, I'll be the first to admit I spend entirely too much time online, but I often do it while watching TV. :)
 
Incel detected.

Good call and agreed.

IMO, the key is their quick defense of Incels. Why would any normal, straight male do it unless they were sympathetic if not one themselves?

It's like those QAnon idiots. Somethin' ain't right there. :)

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I support legalizing all "victimless" crimes including drugs, prostitution and gambling. Tax it, regulate it and use some of the funds to help those who develop addictions or other problems.

Hear, hear.

But can the average incel even afford a prostitute? I mean a decent, "clean" woman -- not a hotbed of STDs one. Or do we really care if they get sick? If they do would they have insurance or would they become a burden on the system? We know they can stay in mom's basement and be insured up to age 26, but most of the incels here are older than that.
 
Hear, hear.

But can the average incel even afford a prostitute? I mean a decent, "clean" woman -- not a hotbed of STDs one. Or do we really care if they get sick? If they do would they have insurance or would they become a burden on the system? We know they can stay in mom's basement and be insured up to age 26, but most of the incels here are older than that.

I am not so sure that encouraging incels to have sex with whores is a good idea because it would only make them feel worse since they have to pay for it.
 
Hear, hear.

But can the average incel even afford a prostitute? I mean a decent, "clean" woman -- not a hotbed of STDs one. Or do we really care if they get sick? If they do would they have insurance or would they become a burden on the system? We know they can stay in mom's basement and be insured up to age 26, but most of the incels here are older than that.
A good point since most have little education, a menial job and live in their parent's basement so very little money for a hooker.

Maybe they should consider a personality makeover?
 
Agreed. A person would have to be pretty fucked up and pathetic to not be able to find a sexual partner. Therefore, IMHO, they are mentally deficient on one way or another.

Note those who were quick to defend the Incels on this thread.

I've noticed that most online Incels take great delight in personally attacking those they perceive to be females, particularly lefty females. Maybe their anger and resentment towards us comes out in real life as well, and puts women off. It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
 
Exactly. He mentions having a girlfriend frequently. But now he's married? Does the wife know? BTW, you can be an Incel even if legally hitched. Betcha TRE45ON is. lol

LOL. Interesting insights. Given what little I know of him, it does not surprise me he's a braggart with claims of fame and fortune much less regular sex with a woman.
 
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