Are Americans dumb?

blackascoal said:
First, you have yet to utter a peep about the debunking of your own PM article .. debunked by the very ATC who tracked the planes.

Not a peep from you about it.

Secondly ..

Payne stewart jets scrambled { October 26 1999 }
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Troubled plane shadowed by military jets

An Air Force spokesman says two U.S. Air Force F-15s from Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, intercepted the plane shortly after it lost contact with aircraft controllers, and followed it to Missouri.

Pilots reported the plane's crew was "non-responsive" and that the cockpit windows were obscured by condensation or frost, an indication the aircraft may have lost cabin pressure.

Over Missouri, four F-16s from an Air National Guard unit based in Fargo, North Dakota, took over the escort mission, and stayed with the plane until it crashed.

The Air Force says additional F-16s were also scrambled from the Oklahoma Air National Guard unit in Tulsa, but were not used because the Fargo planes arrived first.
http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=9-11/norad-faa-response/payne-stewart-jets-scrambled.txt

Prior to 9/11, NORAD intercepts were directed offshore .. but to suggest that there were no military intercepts on American soil is clearly untrue .. as is any notion that the military could not have responded to 9/11.

Who has blamed NORAD? What I posted was the change of command orders where lethal force is required just 3 months before 9/11. That does not blame NORAD, it raises the question of why those orders were changed.

Third, NONE of you swallowers of the fairy-tale has answered a single question no matter how simple it may be. NONE of you want to talk about the science.

Let me try this again .. what happens to falling mass when it encounters equal or greater mass?

Why would you need "experts" or Popular Mechanics to answer a simple question that 3rd graders could answer?

I intend no disrespect brother .. but the notion that one would have to somehow be "unpatriotic" or a lunatic to asks critical questions of their government is just mindless. There is something wrong with me because I believe in science?
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Again... the PM piece was not debunked.
Again... the science is discussed in the PM piece, by experts in their fields, not by a computer programer from some anonymous website.

I didn't say you blamed NORAD.... but you did question the fact that they didn't track commercial planes within the US. They didn't prior to 9/11.
 
Darla said:
You better stick to "Climate Change is a hoax" when you are talking to SF. He doesn't cotton to this other stuff. He's going to start a big thing now. You better get some climategate shit from dikipedia or something and get ready to sweet talk him.
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Yet another emotional outburst from dearest little Darla. One day perhaps she will grow up. But until then dearest little Darla, keep jamming those metal rods into babies heads.
 
Superfreak said:
Again... the PM piece was not debunked.
Again... the science is discussed in the PM piece, by experts in their fields, not by a computer programer from some anonymous website.

I didn't say you blamed NORAD.... but you did question the fact that they didn't track commercial planes within the US. They didn't prior to 9/11.
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YES, your PM article has been debunked up, down, and sideways. You just refuse to know that truth.

Your PM article claimed the planes were invisible to the ATC and they had to go through all manner of loops to find the missing planes .. CLEARLY false and debunked by the ATC themselves. They never lost track of the planes as claimed by PM. That's called DEBUNKING.

I never questioned NORAD. I posted exactly what I said .. a suspicious change of orders in the chain-of-command that placed lethal authority only in the hands of the Secreatry of Defense, not the commanders in the field.

At what point are you going to attempt to answer the question that you've been RUNNING FROM since you entered this conversation?
 
Superfreak said:
Again... the PM piece was not debunked.
Again... the science is discussed in the PM piece, by experts in their fields, not by a computer programer from some anonymous website.

I didn't say you blamed NORAD.... but you did question the fact that they didn't track commercial planes within the US. They didn't prior to 9/11.
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The main problem with this controlled demolition theory is that nobody can explain when this was done. Bush had only been in office for 8 months, so was it done between February and August 2001, when the WTC was erected or during the Clinton Era? Also I would love to know how you could do something like that, which would involve many tonnes of explosives and shaped charges to be put into two buildings without anyone knowing.
 
Superfreak said:
Yet another emotional outburst from dearest little Darla. One day perhaps she will grow up. But until then dearest little Darla, keep jamming those metal rods into babies heads.
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Is it possible for you to participate in a discussion where you don't come unglued and morph into a 14 year old girl? Your histrionics pollute every fucking thread you slither on to. Seriously, this is the third thread I've perused this morning that you've managed to jijack with your dumb drama. It's gotten old. Pull yourself together, take a midol, something. Jesus fucking christ....
 
Superfreak said:
Again... the PM piece was not debunked.
Again... the science is discussed in the PM piece, by experts in their fields, not by a computer programer from some anonymous website.

I didn't say you blamed NORAD.... but you did question the fact that they didn't track commercial planes within the US. They didn't prior to 9/11.
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Seriously, they didn't track commerial airlines? That is just stupid, what about hijackings! I just can't believe NORAD didn't track commercial airlines before 9/11. There was still the risk of hijacking. Sounds ridiculous to me.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
The main problem with this controlled demolition theory is that nobody can explain when this was done. Bush had only been in office for 8 months, so was it done between February and August 2001, when the WTC was erected or during the Clinton Era? Also I would love to know how you could do something like that, which would involve many tonnes of explosives and shaped charges to be put into two buildings without anyone knowing.
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Unfortunately, many people who find the notion impossible have refused to read anything put before them that challenges their conclusion, nor do the seek out anything further since their mind's made up.

Do you know who was in charge of WTC security?

How much have you read about the 'power down' situation that occurred days before 9/11?

Don't take my word for it - I'm simply providing you with some buzzwords whereby you can seek out via google further info. Or not.
 
Bijou said:
Is it possible for you to participate in a discussion where you don't come unglued and morph into a 14 year old girl? Your histrionics pollute every fucking thread you slither on to. Seriously, this is the third thread I've perused this morning that you've managed to jijack with your dumb drama. It's gotten old. Pull yourself together, take a midol, something. Jesus fucking christ....
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Post of the week!
 
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