Are Americans dumb?

Bijou said:
Is it possible for you to participate in a discussion where you don't come unglued and morph into a 14 year old girl? Your histrionics pollute every fucking thread you slither on to. Seriously, this is the third thread I've perused this morning that you've managed to jijack with your dumb drama. It's gotten old. Pull yourself together, take a midol, something. Jesus fucking christ....
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Best post of the week! :)
 
Rana said:
The response from NORAD or lack of has been the thing I think that has been down played. I have never understood this. I always thought before 9/11 that it was one of our best assets. I was wrong. It failed miserably on 9/11 and the response by most mirrored that of SF, as a result, who believes they will be able to protect us in the future?
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Please read this article from the Calgary Herald, it gives you chapter and verse on NORAD.
 
blackascoal said:
What happens to falling mass when it encounters equal or greater mass?
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While a falling floor has the same mass as the floor underneath, it also now has momentum which adds to it's force.

If this wasn't true, we would be able to catch falling people; just by putting our arms out.

It was the mass and the momentum that caused the floor underneath to collapse; which now created a situation where you have the mass of two floors falling onto the one underneath them, combined with mometum, and the three floors onto one and then four floors onto one, etc.

But this didn't begin with a single floor falling onto the floor below it.
This started with several floors falling onto the a single floor and then the cascade began.
 
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Superfreak said:
Explain how the transcripts from the ATC show they lost contact with United 175 and didn't know where it was.

The explosions were explained, you choose not to accept anything that doesn't fit your conspiracy theory.
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This is what happens when people are so scared by an event, that they have to find something to make themselves feel better. Couple that with a distrust of the Government and you have an opening for a belief that makes them feel better.
 
Rana said:
August 17, 1994, novel. By Tom Clancy had a high jacked plane crashing into the Pentagon. Too bad. The military didn't think of such a thing and plane for it. Again, it is scary to think our military that inept.
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Do you have a sprinkler system in your home or are you so inept that you have failed to plan ahead for a possible house fire?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
While a falling floor has the same mass as the floor underneath, it also now has momentum which adds to it's force.

If this wasn't true, we would be able to catch falling people; just by putting our arms out.

It was the mass and the momentum that caused the floor underneath to collapse; which now created a situation where you have the mass of two floors falling onto the one underneath them, combined with mometum, and the three floors onto one and then four floors onto one, etc.
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When falling mass encounters equal or greater mass IT ALWAYS SLOWS DOWN. Objects that only encounter air resistance fall faster than objects that encounter mass resistance .. thus the term, free-fall speed.

The ONLY way the towers AND WTC7 could have fallen as fast as they did is if the mass resistance was being removed .. thus, controlled demolition.

But the rate of speed was hardly the only demonstration that this was a controlled demolition .. in which the buildings that have been imploded fall into the own footprints with the outer roofs laying on top of the roof which was pulled inward.


WTC 7 laying in its own footprints with the outer walls laying clearly on top.

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But laying in its own footprint and the rate of speed of the collapse aren't the only demonstrations of a controlled demolition.

So is the symetrical, uniform progression of the collapse .. which requires no post because that's eaxactly what the world witnessed.

Collapsing buildings tend to fall over to the path of least resistance.

This is a controlled demolition ..

 
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blackascoal said:
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Dude, you're still incapable of answering a question a 3rd grader could answer.

You don't answer because it demonstrates what I've said from the very beginning .. that there is no science that supports the fairy-tale.

You don't answer because it demonstrates the IMPOSSIBILITY of what is claimed.

But at this point .. don't answer .. your RUNNING :0) has already said everything that need be.
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Once again... WHAT question are you saying I am not answering? It is hard to answer if I am not aware of the question.

If it is the buildings pancaking, I have answered that.

If it is about the mass question, I have answered that.

If it is about something else, please restate the question as I must have missed it.
 
Rana said:
Really?


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washin...htm?AID=4992781&PID=4169914&SID=1e7l2r6ow5r2f
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The exercises differed from the Sept. 11 attacks in one important respect: The planes in the simulation were coming from a foreign country.

Until Sept. 11, NORAD was expected to defend the United States and Canada from aircraft based elsewhere. After the attacks, that responsibility broadened to include flights that originated in the two countries.
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Yes, really.
 
Rana said:
Here is another interesting article

http://tarpley.net/docs/drills_of_911.pdf

Seems NORAD had a super failure the day of 9/11!
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Seems you continue to fail at reading your own links. Again that states the aircraft in the scenarios were FOREIGN based. Coming from outside the borders into the US.

That said, what if they had been able to intercept the planes and were forced to shoot them down? How quickly would the left be screaming about cowboy military pilots going John Wayne on innocent civilians? How long would we have had to hear about the 'fact' that we couldn't possibly 'know' they were going to ram the planes into buildings?
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
What about Robert Bowman any thoughts on his views?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman
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1) NORAD's drills were in regard to planes coming from foreign space into ours.

2) To suggest that NORAD's drills are what confused the media is a bit strange given the transcript of the ATC conversation showed that they thought other flights had been hijacked due to a lack of communication with the planes... Delta 1989 is one example.

3) On OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE: was planned prior to 9/11 and scrubbed when the hijackings occurred. A person could certainly pretend that this was done deliberately, but I see no evidence of such.

4) On OPERATION VIGILANT GUARDIAN: These again were tests that had been done annually and that one of the tests involved a hijacking. Again, the conspiracy theorists can certainly make a case that this was odd given the events of the day, but if it was done annually, I would think that too could have provided cover for terrorists... and thus why they chose that time frame for attack.

5) Nowhere in the transcripts of the ATC conversations were people getting 'confused' by the exercises by the military. So his comments there are a bit weird to say the least.
 
Superfreak said:
Not really. It had been at least 20 some odd years since the last highjacking of a commercial airliner in the US. It is not surprising that they were focused externally.
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I am not talking about their tracking capabilities, just the fact that they only installed direct telephone links after 9/11.
 
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