Into the Night
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Buzzwords have no reference and no meaning, Void.
Archaeology of the New Testament
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When wielded by the Romans. Is that any doubt that Jesus saw it as a symbol of oppression too?Christians must understand that for Jews the cross is a symbol of oppression
Jesus wasn't a Christian – that word exists for his followers and came later. He was Jewish. His mother was Jewish. He was circumcised as a Jew. He pretty much followed the Jewish law, departing from it only in the name of what he saw as its deeper meaning. "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished," he insisted at the end of the Sermon on the Mount. Sure, he debated furiously with the Pharisees and Sadducees, especially about the significance of the temple. And, in time, this argument came to be restyled by Jesus' gentile followers as an attack upon Jews per se. But originally it was an internal debate within Judaism, not an attack upon Jews from the outside. In was an internal debate in the same way that the prophets of the Hebrew scriptures, such as Jeremiah, often attacked the priests of the temple for missing the point.
Christians must understand that for Jews the cross is a symbol of oppression | Giles Fraser
Giles Fraser: Loose canon: Few ideas can have been as poisonous as, or inspired more murderousness than, the idea that Jews were the Christ-killerswww.theguardian.com
In modern times it's a symbol of sacrifice. Personally, I like the Ichthys better.
OTOH, the crucifix makes a better weapon. LOL
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ZenMode
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And yet you know what the term MAGAt means. You can keep playing dumb, but you know.
NiftyNiblick
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MAGAt is a contraction for MAGA maggot, no?
At least that's what I mean by it.
Not a contraction for me, but a noun. A member of the Democratic party is a Democrat. A member of the MAGA part is a MAGAt.
The fact it sounds like maggot is a sweet coincidence. LOL
Into the Night
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Buzzwords have no reference and no meaning, Void.
Into the Night
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MAGA isn't a person, Sybil. MAGAt isn't a word.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
I see. I heard it as MAGA maggot right from the beginning.
Must be something about the polarity of my thoughts.
ZenMode
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To clarify, you are claiming that you don't know what MAGAt is a reference to. Is that right? No knowledge of homophones?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
If the cross is a symbol of oppression, of what is the crescent moon and star a symbol?Christians must understand that for Jews the cross is a symbol of oppression
Jesus wasn't a Christian – that word exists for his followers and came later. He was Jewish. His mother was Jewish. He was circumcised as a Jew. He pretty much followed the Jewish law, departing from it only in the name of what he saw as its deeper meaning. "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished," he insisted at the end of the Sermon on the Mount. Sure, he debated furiously with the Pharisees and Sadducees, especially about the significance of the temple. And, in time, this argument came to be restyled by Jesus' gentile followers as an attack upon Jews per se. But originally it was an internal debate within Judaism, not an attack upon Jews from the outside. In was an internal debate in the same way that the prophets of the Hebrew scriptures, such as Jeremiah, often attacked the priests of the temple for missing the point.
Christians must understand that for Jews the cross is a symbol of oppression | Giles Fraser
Giles Fraser: Loose canon: Few ideas can have been as poisonous as, or inspired more murderousness than, the idea that Jews were the Christ-killers
Into the Night
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MAGAt isn't a word, Void.
...or the Star of David?
A lot of it depends upon what side of the sword, spear or gun one is on.
The VC saw the American flag as a symbol of oppression. Poles saw the Soviet flag as a symbol of oppression.
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ZenMode
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Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
2000 years of crusades, inquisions pogroms and trying forced conversions along to this day blamed for killing their god
Into the Night
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You aren't asking a question, Void.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
I guess it is pretty serious after all.
Unlike others, I'm just not forced to think about it very much in every day life.
The Jews used religion for wars centuries before the Christians returned the favor.
The Old Testament depicts conflicts between Jews and Canaanites. War is human nature...and also simian nature as Jane Goodall observed.
Civilized nations have turned to other financial and cyber warfare to position themselves against opponents but throwbacks like Putin, Kim and Trump will go the way of the dinosaur in a few short years.
In the mid-1970s, more than a decade into her research on chimpanzees in Tanzania's Gombe National Park, the late and legendary primatologist Jane Goodall witnessed something that horrified her.
The group of chimps she and her colleagues were studying broke into two factions and turned on each other. It looked very much like a civil war. Chimpanzees that had intermingled peacefully and grown up together were systematically killing each other.
It changed Goodall's view of one of humanity's closest relatives.
"I used to think, 'Well, they're very [much] like people but nicer,'" she told the public radio program Fresh Air in 1993. "And then I realized that when opportunity arises, they have this nasty, brutal side to them just like we do."