Apparently, the right wing is mad at Google...

cawacko said:
And Cypress go read what google employees are saying about this guy. He's gotten a lot of support and many feel he shouldn't have been fired. His personal story has come out and he's not a right winger nor is he anti woman.

You're trying to use this to fit your political narrative as oppose to what the real meaning of what the guy wrote was and how we take the premise to move forward and advance
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Let's repeat what this guy wrote for the record:

Damore's internal memo became public when*published by Gizmodo*last Saturday. Titled "Google's Ideological Echo Chamber," it argued that Google's initiatives to close its workforce gender gap were misguided because the disparity was more a result of biological differences between men and women than biased hiring practices or sexism.

Women are underrepresented in professions like coding, Damore argued, in part because they are more susceptible to "neuroticism," leading to higher levels of anxiety and a low tolerance for stress
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That's what you're defending Cawacko.

We don't know what else this guy was saying and doing at work. Are you aware of the kinds of things people overhear or people say in the lunchroom, in the break room, or in cubicles? If you talk about how blacks and women are inferior at any place I have worked, you will, at a minimum become a social outcast, and you may even be asked to leave.

Google is a private company. The First Amendment is not relevant in this case. As a private company, they are not obligated to tolerate view points that are at odds with their business model, corporate culture, or internal policies.

If you feel it is appropriate to state at one's place of employment that women are inferior, and less well suited to professional work, then you are welcome to support that. As you yourself said, this guy has a lot of conservative supporters. But many or even most professional companies will view that as work place harassment, or creating a hostile work environment in conflict with their human resources policies.
 
cawacko said:
No ones saying you have to agree with what he wrote. Doesn't mean he's wrong though or the core of what he's saying is not worthy of discussion.

And you're from the Bay Area so it should not surprise you that there are many very successful, well educated assholes here. And you go to a place like Google where people from all over the world fight to work at it should surprise you even less that there would be assholes there. If all assholes at google were fired there wouldn't be much of a company left
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Is his arrogance typical of people from the Bay Area?
 
Cypress said:
Let's repeat what this guy wrote for the record:



That's what you're defending Cawacko.

We don't know what else this guy was saying and doing at work. Are you aware of the kinds of things people overhear or people say in the lunchroom, in the break room, or in cubicles? If you talk about how blacks and women are inferior at any place I have worked, you will, at a minimum become a social outcast, and you may even be asked to leave.

Google is a private company. The First Amendment is not relevant in this case. As a private company, they are not obligated to tolerate view points that are at odds with their business model, corporate culture, or internal policies.

If you feel it is appropriate to state at one's place of employment that women are inferior, and less well suited to professional work, then you are welcome to support that. As you yourself said, this guy has a lot of conservative supporters. But many or even most professional companies will view that as work place harassment, or creating a hostile work environment in conflict with their human resources policies.
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Do want to explain what there are so few women software engineers then?
 
Cypress said:
Let's repeat what this guy wrote for the record:



That's what you're defending Cawacko.

We don't know what else this guy was saying and doing at work. Are you aware of the kinds of things people overhear or people say in the lunchroom, in the break room, or in cubicles? If you talk about how blacks and women are inferior at any place I have worked, you will, at a minimum become a social outcast, and you may even be asked to leave.

Google is a private company. The First Amendment is not relevant in this case. As a private company, they are not obligated to tolerate view points that are at odds with their business model, corporate culture, or internal policies.

If you feel it is appropriate to state at one's place of employment that women are inferior, and less well suited to professional work, then you are welcome to support that. As you yourself said, this guy has a lot of conservative supporters. But many or even most professional companies will view that as work place harassment, or creating a hostile work environment in conflict with their human resources policies.
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Let's be clear what we are discussing here. Speaking from 30K feet people aren't agreeing with every word the guy wrote. You are choosing to ignore other parts of his memo that speak about the going ons inside of google because you happen to agree with it and are ok with group think that supports what you believe.
 
cawacko said:
No ones saying you have to agree with what he wrote. Doesn't mean he's wrong though or the core of what he's saying is not worthy of discussion.

And you're from the Bay Area so it should not surprise you that there are many very successful, well educated assholes here. And you go to a place like Google where people from all over the world fight to work at it should surprise you even less that there would be assholes there. If all assholes at google were fired there wouldn't be much of a company left
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It's hard to have an unemotional discussion after reading claptrap like this: "Neuroticism (higher anxiety, lower stress tolerance).This may contribute to the higher levels of anxiety women report on Googlegeist and to the lower number of women in high stress jobs."
 
christiefan915 said:
It's hard to have an unemotional discussion after reading claptrap like this: "Neuroticism (higher anxiety, lower stress tolerance).This may contribute to the higher levels of anxiety women report on Googlegeist and to the lower number of women in high stress jobs."
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Yet nevertheless there are far fewer women in IT, that's just a fact. Both my sons work in London and they tell me the same thing, the vast majority of software programmers, designers and system architects are men. Increasingly they are Indian and Chinese men. So why is that?
 
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