Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Okay, it's heavy on the sarcasm and there's a LOT that I disagree with at times with the various hosts of The Young Turks, but damned if they're not spot on target every so often:
AOC shoots back...and SCORES!
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T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Holy shit! She's a 20 on the crazy scale there. That was truly one of the most deranged rants I've ever witnessed.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
you're all zipper and no pants, T.A. Please explain EXACTLY in no uncertain terms what AOC said that wasn't accurate? The reading audience awaits.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Okay...
She opens with:
..."One of the disgusting legaces after 9/11 has been the targeting and racism against Muslim Americans..."
I looked up a number of studies, and they are typically like this one:
Violence Against American Muslims
The team conducted key informant interviews with leaders of community-based Muslim organizations in the Baltimore-Washington DC area. These interviews uncovered areas of concern and informed the questions asked in the focus group discussions that followed. They also conducted in-depth interviews with 37 American Muslim men and women, focusing on individual experiences of interpersonal stranger violence and coping mechanisms.
https://americanhealth.jhu.edu/news/violence-against-american-muslims
In other words, based on opinion not any sort of statistical data and adequate sampling. They instead were conclusions that were pre-made and given a fig leaf of authority to make them look good.
As you can see, the number of attacks reported against Muslims in the US is miniscule.
By comparison the number of attacks on Jews in the US
Strike one for AOC, her statement is full of shit.
Then she says:
..."incitement of racism and violence against women of color in this body..."
As far as I can tell there have been no direct violent attacks of any females that are members of the House... I can't find any incitement of such either
Strike two for AOC, she's still full of shit.
"I had a member of the Republican Caucus threaten my life..."
I can't find any direct reference to this. The closest I was able to come is this commercial by someone running for Congress.
That's strike 3 and AOC is out! She's a raving lunatic spewing crazy shit and nothing more.
Geeko Sportivo
Verified User
Maybe no one has ever threatened your life.
Hell, Gomar or GOMER, you choose- even drew a picture of himself killing her and passed it around to his fellow Freedom CaCa-R-us!
So, she has a bone to pick! Cut her some slack!
This was between AOC and MJT! Now who do you think is going to win that fight? Hint Hint- it won't be MTG- not in the eyes of most Americans.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Nobody. If it got physical--which I seriously doubt--MJT would stomp AOC who'd clearly assume the fetal position and whine instantly. In a battle of wits, it'd be a draw as neither has much to offer in that respect.
You have no basis for saying that.
Okay...
She opens with:
..."One of the disgusting legaces after 9/11 has been the targeting and racism against Muslim Americans..."
I looked up a number of studies, and they are typically like this one:
Violence Against American Muslims
The team conducted key informant interviews with leaders of community-based Muslim organizations in the Baltimore-Washington DC area. These interviews uncovered areas of concern and informed the questions asked in the focus group discussions that followed. They also conducted in-depth interviews with 37 American Muslim men and women, focusing on individual experiences of interpersonal stranger violence and coping mechanisms.
https://americanhealth.jhu.edu/news/violence-against-american-muslims
In other words, based on opinion not any sort of statistical data and adequate sampling. They instead were conclusions that were pre-made and given a fig leaf of authority to make them look good.
As you can see, the number of attacks reported against Muslims in the US is miniscule.
By comparison the number of attacks on Jews in the US
Wow that's one huge self own.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Wow that's one huge self own.
How do you figure that? AOC claims by implication that Muslims are targeted a lot. The graphs prove they're barely targeted at all in the US. Sure, there are a mere handful of cases, but they pale in comparison to other groups. Jews, the example I gave are targeted more than 10 times over compared to Muslims. AOC is full of shit.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Yeah right.
AOC nearly pissed herself in fright when she turned on the garbage disposal in her DC apartment the first time...
*Taps on your shoulder* Um.... Look at 2001, 2016 and 2017.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Um, you can't read a graph? Attacks are up across the board since 2016. Mostly because of a general increase in violence in large Democrat run urban areas. You can't attribute that to some sudden increase in Islamophobia. AOC is still full of shit.
Take a look again. You owned yourself. I don't know if you're in denial or just oblivious.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Wrong!
AOC said and I quote:
"One of the disgusting legacies after 9/11 has been the targeting and racism against Muslim Americans..."
This implies that Muslims, in particular, compared to other groups, religious, ethnic, or whatever have been targeted consistently more since 9/11. The graph shows this is total bullshit. Sure, small numbers have been, but they are insignificant compared to attacks on other groups. That makes her statement bullshit. AOC is still full of shit.
There is nothing wrong with what she said. The hatred for Muslims has increased since 9/11. And I know why you conveniently ignored the fact that you owned yourself with the data from 2016 and 2017.
Do I need to remind you of Omar?
I like how Occasional-Cortex jumped up and down.
That was funny.
That was funny.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
There is nothing wrong with what she said. The hatred for Muslims has increased since 9/11. And I know why you conveniently ignored the fact that you owned yourself with the data from 2016 and 2017.
Do I need to remind you of Omar?
That isn't reflected in the numbers I presented. Anecdote isn't evidence.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
That was the meth speaking...