Another tragedy brought about by yet ANOTHER "responsible" gun owner

[Anti-Party]

Liberty isn't just a selfish idea even though it is sold as one today. Only idiots would ignore the Liberty and Freedom of the 2 year old and say it's a lost statistic.

I'm going to bed. No challenge here.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Liberty isn't just a selfish idea even though it is sold as one today. Only idiots would ignore the Liberty and Freedom of the 2 year old and say it's a lost statistic.

I'm going to bed. No challenge here.

How would your proposals have ensured the "Liberty and Freedom of the 2 year old"?

 

[Anti-Party]

If I misunderstood you, then I apologize.
Could you explain what changes in the existing law(s) would have prevented any of the recent tragedies?

Different levels of gun education for different guns because not all guns are equally dangerous and assuming so is ignorant. With great power comes great responsibility. Or basically "Gun safety Courses, different courses for different people. Including random tests to prove you are going to be a responsible gun owner and not ignore a 5 year old with a gun or ignore a kid with mental disorders with a Modified Assault Weapon allowing that child to obtain it and carry out a massacre."

Most would say, "pretty basic stuff" Others would say, "I'm a good person, I shouldn't have to" It's all in the ability to look beyond yourself and recognize statistics.

Anyway, bored, going to bed.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Liberty isn't just a selfish idea even though it is sold as one today. Only idiots would ignore the Liberty and Freedom of the 2 year old and say it's a lost statistic.

I'm going to bed. No challenge here.

Only fascists would make RIGHTS difficult to exercise.

But all this talk of what could be done has got me thinking; what could we do? And its become clear to me. We have to make a test for parenthood. We can all agree that if stupid people didn't have children then those children wouldn't be likely to die from negligence right? So we test for parental ability and impose a child tax, so as to discourage children to those less able and less willing to accept the responsibility.

 

[Anti-Party]

How would your proposals have ensured the "Liberty and Freedom of the 2 year old"?

No proposal would ensure the life of the 2 year old. No laws prevent the breaking of that law. Name one law ever created that has prevented 100% of criminals from breaking that law. The assumption of "since when do criminals obey laws" is a Corporate slogan that parrots repeat and the Corporations (gun manufacturers) wheel in profits. Stating that laws shouldn't be in place because criminals won't obey them is basic Nihilism.

Going to bed for real this time.

(too easy)

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Different levels of gun education for different guns because not all guns are equally dangerous and assuming so is ignorant. With great power comes great responsibility. Or basically "Gun safety Courses, different courses for different people. Including random tests to prove you are going to be a responsible gun owner and not ignore a 5 year old with a gun or ignore a kid with mental disorders with a Modified Assault Weapon allowing that child to obtain it and carry out a massacre."

Most would say, "pretty basic stuff" Others would say, "I'm a good person, I shouldn't have to" It's all in the ability to look beyond yourself and recognize statistics.

Anyway, bored, going to bed.

I thought you were going to bed!!

You're really going to need to give more information, on your comment of:
"...Including random tests to prove you are going to be a responsible gun owner and not ignore a 5 year old with a gun or ignore a kid with mental disorders with a Modified Assault Weapon allowing that child to obtain it and carry out a massacre..."
and explain how ANY random test is going to allow anyone to come to the conclusion that you keep attempting to push.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

No proposal would ensure the life of the 2 year old. No laws prevent the breaking of that law. Name one law ever created that has prevented 100% of criminals from breaking that law. The assumption of "since when do criminals obey laws" is a Corporate slogan that parrots repeat and the Corporations (gun manufacturers) wheel in profits. Stating that laws shouldn't be in place because criminals won't obey them is basic Nihilism.

Going to bed for real this time.

(too easy)

If no law is going to ensure what happened from occuring again, then what is the purpose of your proposals?

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

I think you are making a good point while avoiding the good point you oppose.

When something is practical and has a necessity you have to think about the owners and not just the people who died. It would infringe your right to shoot...........things.

I think you misunderstand. Soc's post was about someone claiming that all guns have one purpose and that is to kill.

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

OMG someone asked me for "my" solution?!?!

My perspective is that we use FORCED EDUCATION in gun ownership. I remember when I took my hunters safety course and I selected "(B)take the shot" and a hunter was carrying a deer out, I'll never forget it. I could have killed him/her.

Tests and Education are mandatory for EVERYTHING in America that is considered "elite" or out of touch for "some". I can't drive a car without a test or instructor. I can't use explosives to blow a mine without a boss.

I propose that different weapons and accessories have different levels of danger. Each would require a different level of testing. Of course this would "restrict" some, but only the people that shouldn't have them to begin with..........such as parents who don't supervise their children with weapons that can kill their siblings.

ONLY BASIC CRAP LIKE THAT....heh.

Given that the gun used in the tragedy in the OP was one that would be allowed by virtually any test or system, I'm not sure it would have prevented this situation.