You are correct. Not all convicted criminals end up going to jail. Some of them get elected President by cult members like you.
Another senseless death on the hands of Obama and all leftists
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T. A. Gardner
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There are serious problems with CATO's numbers. I'd start with the fact that many jail and prison systems in the US, particularly those in "sanctuary" locations and blue / Democrat run states do not track the immigration status of those incarcerated.It is easy to find a shithead or two from any group and generalize that trait or behavior applies to everyone in that group, but it isn’t informative nor helpful, in fact, just the opposite, leads to demonizing groups unjustifiably.
Fact remains, illegals, in fact all immigrants, commit less cry than native born Americans
Debunking the Myth of the “Migrant Crime Wave”
Data does not support claims that the United States is experiencing a surge in crime caused by immigrants.www.brennancenter.org
https://www.cato.org/blog/why-do-illegal-immigrants-have-low-crime-rate-twelve-possible-explanations
Does this mean all trailer park residents are vicious murders?
“Man accused of double homicide at Orangevale mobile home park”
Man accused of double homicide at Orangevale mobile home park, Sacramento sheriff says
Deputies arrested one person Tuesday in connection with a double homicide in Orangevale at the Sunshine Mobile Village on Main Avenue, the Sacramento County Sheriff's Office said.www.kcra.com
For example, 16.1% of all federal inmates are illegals. Between--by best estimates--3 and 5% of the US population are illegals (11 to 15 million out of about 330 million). That means that illegals in federal prison, where immigration status is kept, are overrepresented at about 3 to 5 times their number in the general population.
BOP Statistics: Inmate Citizenship
www.bop.gov
Estimates of the Illegal Alien Population Residing in the United States
Office of Homeland Security Statistics report on illegal (or unauthorized) aliens (or immigrants) for FY 1990-2022 by period of entry, origin region/country, residence state, age, and sex.
So, rather than me accepting a couple of apologist, pro-illegal immigrant, sites I'll use base data and come to my own conclusions. Where immigration status is checked, illegals go to prison at about 3 to 5 times the rate of legal citizens and legal immigrants. I won't dilute my estimates with data from institutions that aren't tracking immigration status like CATO and the Brennan Center do.
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The Hidden Crime Wave: A 20-Year Investigative Report on the Underreporting of Crime in the United States (2005–2025)
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Is Crime Going Down, Or Have Democrat-Run Cities Just Given Up On Reporting It? - Texas Public Policy Foundation
Competing narratives and poor information plague national discourse about public safety, making it difficult to reach a political consensus. Even while gangs increasingly mug, carjack, and gun people down on the streets of many major cities, fentanyl poisoning deaths take 100,000 American lives...
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Major cities concealing crime Data
Major cities like New York City and Los Angeles, along with many others, are not reporting crime data to the FBI, contributing to a nationwide trend where nearly 40% of law enforcement agencies fail to share this crucial information. This is beyond outrageous. How can we trust crime statistics when
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Lie ^, didn’t “conflate” the two, and the four sources I included, two from right leaning entries, , prove you wrong, again
(now we’re to get the “you can’t deny” whatever the bullshit is)
FastLane
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Wow. It's almost like you don't understand that a 15th year old American is DEAD and that did not have to happen. A criminal being arrested and thrown into prison does not help the 15 year old boy.
Wow. Talk about being really stupid because you are in a cult. First of all, your source says nothing about whether the person incarcerated entered legally or not, then you make a major mistake in that when the country is unknown you assume that means they are here illegally. Unknown means they could be US citizens. In fact you should probably assign the same rough statistics to the unknown as we have for the known.
Let's use a real world case to further illustrate how stupid your claim is.
Joaquín Guzmán, a Mexican national is currently incarcerated in the US. Guzman is more well known by the name of El Chapo. Guzman was captured in Mexico and extradited to the US in 2016. By your cult thinking Guzman is in the country illegally.
Another example -
37 Mexican Nationals Wanted for Serious Crimes Transferred to the United States from Mexico, Including Leaders of Foreign Terrorist Organizations
The United States announced today that yesterday evening it took into custody 37 fugitives from Mexico facing a range of federal criminal charges around the country, including charges relating to narcoterrorism, providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization, firearms...
In the last year and almost 100 drug traffickers have been extradited to the US from Mexico.
Perhaps you should wake yourself up and start to do some critical thinking. You didn't dilute your data because you just made it up. I guess that is what you have to do when you are in a cult.BOP Statistics: Inmate Citizenship
Estimates of the Illegal Alien Population Residing in the United States
Office of Homeland Security Statistics report on illegal (or unauthorized) aliens (or immigrants) for FY 1990-2022 by period of entry, origin region/country, residence state, age, and sex.ohss.dhs.gov
So, rather than me accepting a couple of apologist, pro-illegal immigrant, sites I'll use base data and come to my own conclusions. Where immigration status is checked, illegals go to prison at about 3 to 5 times the rate of legal citizens and legal immigrants. I won't dilute my estimates with data from institutions that aren't tracking immigration status like CATO and the Brennan Center do.
One of those sources is citing the State of Texas’s own study, and what documentation do have to offer that “particularly” in sanctuary cities and Blue States states immigration incarceration is not tracked?There are serious problems with CATO's numbers. I'd start with the fact that many jail and prison systems in the US, particularly those in "sanctuary" locations and blue / Democrat run states do not track the immigration status of those incarcerated.
For example, 16.1% of all federal inmates are illegals. Between--by best estimates--3 and 5% of the US population are illegals (11 to 15 million out of about 330 million). That means that illegals in federal prison, where immigration status is kept, are overrepresented at about 3 to 5 times their number in the general population.
BOP Statistics: Inmate Citizenship
Estimates of the Illegal Alien Population Residing in the United States
Office of Homeland Security Statistics report on illegal (or unauthorized) aliens (or immigrants) for FY 1990-2022 by period of entry, origin region/country, residence state, age, and sex.
So, rather than me accepting a couple of apologist, pro-illegal immigrant, sites I'll use base data and come to my own conclusions. Where immigration status is checked, illegals go to prison at about 3 to 5 times the rate of legal citizens and legal immigrants. I won't dilute my estimates with data from institutions that aren't tracking immigration status like CATO and the Brennan Center do.
When you come with the you are “coming up with your own conclusion” you undercut your argument
And, more importantly, you missed my point, as I noted, it is easy to find a shithead or two from any group and generalize that trait or behavior applies to everyone in that group, but it isn’t informative nor helpful, in fact, just the opposite, leads to demonizing groups unjustifiably, which is the reason I included the trailer park double homicide
Into the Night
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The SDTC does not report crime.
Crime statistics isn't 'work'. It is data.
L.A., San Francisco, the SDTC, the SOTNY, the SOTHI, the State of Minneapolis, and the State of Pennsylvannia are NOT reporting all the crime.
The FBI is not any of these entities.
Nope. They simply do not report all the crime.
Nice deflection. Are you unable to support your original claim? Relying on anecdotes doesn't support your claim about the entire group. I guess being in a cult you don't have a clue about how critical thinking works.
Into the Night
Contributor
It has already been determined they entered illegally in court, Poorboy.
Extradition is not immigration. False equivalence fallacy.
Extradition is not immigration. False equivalence fallacy.Another example -
Are all 37 Mexican citizens extradited to the US from Mexico here illegally?37 Mexican Nationals Wanted for Serious Crimes Transferred to the United States from Mexico, Including Leaders of Foreign Terrorist Organizations
The United States announced today that yesterday evening it took into custody 37 fugitives from Mexico facing a range of federal criminal charges around the country, including charges relating to narcoterrorism, providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization, firearms...www.justice.gov
Extradition is not immigration. False equivalence fallacy.
Buzzword fallacies (wake yourself up, critical thinking, dilute, data, cult).
Try English. It works better.
Into the Night
Contributor
Pivot fallacy.
Contextomy fallacy.
Inversion fallacy. You cannot blame your bigotry and racism on anybody else, anchovies.
Into the Night
Contributor
Already done. Argument of the Stone fallacy.
Buzzword fallacies (anecdotes, entire group, cult, clue, critical thinking, works).
Every illegal alien is a criminal, Poorboy. Every...single...one!
Into the Night
Contributor
Because liberal judges (DEMOCRATS) keep letting them out on the street.
None of them have been elected President, Poorboy.
Buzzword fallacies (cult).
It's pretty amazing how you are so stupid you want to blame Obama for this. How old is Yefry Archaga-Elvir?
Hint - He is currently 18 years old.
He is a product of the US since he has spent more time in the US than in any other country since he arrived here when he was 7 years old.
I have to give you credit. You are certainly willing to put your stupidity on display for all to see.
Mexican nationals extradited to the US and incarcerated are counted as being from Mexico in the prison system. They are not suddenly US citizens because they were extradited to the US.
Teflon Don
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I know simpleton leftists like you don’t see the connection but Obama policies let him stay. You support those policies. You thought he was a Dreamer but he was a murderer. It is as much on your head as Obama’s
You want so badly for your democrat party to win elections you willingly sacrifice innocent lives. You would probably even sacrifice your own spawn if it meant your beloved democrat party can stay in power.
Teflon Don
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OMG you made my prediction come true. Nothing in my post ascribed behavior to a group. That is just how your dumb ass interpreted it. Too funnyIt is easy to find a shithead or two from any group and generalize that trait or behavior applies to everyone in that group, but it isn’t informative nor helpful, in fact, just the opposite, leads to demonizing groups unjustifiably.
Fact remains, illegals, in fact all immigrants, commit less cry than native born Americans
Debunking the Myth of the “Migrant Crime Wave”
Data does not support claims that the United States is experiencing a surge in crime caused by immigrants.https://www.cato.org/blog/why-do-illegal-immigrants-have-low-crime-rate-twelve-possible-explanations
Does this mean all trailer park residents are vicious murders?
“Man accused of double homicide at Orangevale mobile home park”
Man accused of double homicide at Orangevale mobile home park, Sacramento sheriff says
Deputies arrested one person Tuesday in connection with a double homicide in Orangevale at the Sunshine Mobile Village on Main Avenue, the Sacramento County Sheriff's Office said.
Wow. You do like to show you are in a cult.
Where should Obama have sent a 7 year old who was unaccompanied when they crossed into the US in 2015? Should they have been put in shackles and sent to another country to fend for themselves?
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Oof. The projection is nauseating. You want so badly for your republiKKKan party to win elections you willingly sacrifice innocent lives. You would definitely let TACO rape your own underage daughter if it meant your beloved republiKKKan party can stay in power.
T. A. Gardner
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Texas' own prison data shows the same thing I stated earlier.
Texas Criminal Illegal Noncitizen Data | Department of Public Safety
www.dps.texas.gov
California, surprisingly has the same sort of data. Illegals, as a portion of the population are grossly overrepresented in their prison population.
California Illegal Immigration Statistics [2023 Data]
Illegal immigration is the phenomenon of foreign nationals entering or residing in a country without proper authorization. It is a complex and controversial
californiadegrees.org