another murder by the government

So you're saying your previous position was wrong? Or do I need to quote it again? Because previously you said anyone in possession should be put away for life.

Originally Posted by Bfgrn
Manufactures found ways around the ban. So what we need is a ban on all assault weapons. (THEN) If you have one in your possession, you are put away for life. I have no problem with people having weapons for sport, hunting and to protect their home and family. NO ONE needs a weapon that can kill crowds of people.

Are we clear?
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Originally Posted by Bfgrn
Manufactures found ways around the ban. So what we need is a ban on all assault weapons. (THEN) If you have one in your possession, you are put away for life. I have no problem with people having weapons for sport, hunting and to protect their home and family. NO ONE needs a weapon that can kill crowds of people.

Are we clear?
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how many people are you willing to have killed to achieve your ban?
 
Originally Posted by Bfgrn
Manufactures found ways around the ban. So what we need is a ban on all assault weapons. (THEN) If you have one in your possession, you are put away for life. I have no problem with people having weapons for sport, hunting and to protect their home and family. NO ONE needs a weapon that can kill crowds of people.

Are we clear?
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So in other words I, and millions of other law abiding citizens, should be criminalized for doing nothing. Yeah, we're pretty clear. Also, the word THEN never appeared there. So you're obviously trying to appear like less of an authoritarian than you actually are.
 
So in other words I, and millions of other law abiding citizens, should be criminalized for doing nothing. Yeah, we're pretty clear. Also, the word THEN never appeared there. So you're obviously trying to appear like less of an authoritarian than you actually are.

I'll settle for a ban on the sale and possession of high capacity magazines. I am a reasonable man. I have not found anything close to reasonable from the gun crowd here. Shock me.
 
I'll settle for a ban on the sale and possession of high capacity magazines. I am a reasonable man. I have not found anything close to reasonable from the gun crowd here. Shock me.
So what's exactly 'high capacity'? Because last I checked all my magazines are STANDARD capacity. My guns were designed to use those magazines. Using an inferior replacement could potentially kill me or anyone else who's gun was designed the same way. And again, you'd criminalize those who have never committed any crime, with no real gain to be shown in the future. Sounds mighty authoritarian.
 
I'm sure if you look hard enough, like say, in the Constitutition, that there is plenty of reasonable approaches from gun owners. Shall not be infriniged is pretty set in stone though, as is the right of the people part. Now if you'd like to see that changed, you can go and get the Constitution amended, because otherwise you're simply being a authoritarian tyrant.
 
So what's exactly 'high capacity'? Because last I checked all my magazines are STANDARD capacity. My guns were designed to use those magazines. Using an inferior replacement could potentially kill me or anyone else who's gun was designed the same way. And again, you'd criminalize those who have never committed any crime, with no real gain to be shown in the future. Sounds mighty authoritarian.

Current proposed legislation is to ban gun magazines that feed more than 10 rounds at a time.
 
Well aside from the unconstitutionality of that, what isn't authoritarian about criminalizing millions of currently non-criminal Americans?

I feel sorry for people like you. The level of fear, paranoia and insecurity that controls your ever thought and action is truly sad. But folks like you are totally obtuse to how those illnesses manifest in humans.
 
I feel sorry for people like you. The level of fear, paranoia and insecurity that controls your ever thought and action is truly sad. But folks like you are totally obtuse to how those illnesses manifest in humans.
Nice deflection. How is it not authoritarian to criminalize millions of law abiding people? It seems to me you're the one afraid, because you want to paint people who obey the laws as some sort of social deviant and want to put them in jail for life for committing no crime.
 
Nice deflection. How is it not authoritarian to criminalize millions of law abiding people? It seems to me you're the one afraid, because you want to paint people who obey the laws as some sort of social deviant and want to put them in jail for life for committing no crime.

Give me one good reason 'law abiding people' need high capacity magazines?
 
Give me one good reason 'law abiding people' need high capacity magazines?
Have you ever been in a gun fight? I'll assume no. I have. Those magazines are useful tools. That's why police and the military use them even though they have the advantage of back up and body armor. Not to mention, as I've said many times before, those guns are designed to use those magazines. Using an inferior product is mroe likely to result in a weapons failure and that could happen when someone needs their gun to be effective.

Not that it matters much though, because it's a RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE.
 
Let's not forget, gunlover Jared Loughner was disarmed by an old lady who grabbed his high-capacity magazine.
 
Those magazines are useful tools.

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For THIS...

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How charming that you would use the deaths of innocents as a political tool. Not that there is an intellectual basis for your argument, as you probably would have presented it by now. No, you use appeal to emotion, because that's all you have. Never mind the millions of people whose lives are saved every day by guns.
 
Why, just last night St Alcoholus fought off a herd of pink elephants with his trusty "tool".
 
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