Another mass shooting deserves a better answer.

I've said it before and I'll say it again....if we treat all gun purchases like this country treats car purchases, you'd have a better tracking system and mandatory class to pass in handling the item. Won't stop all nuts and evil doers, but it'll cut down the number of incidences.

Oh, and for all the 2nd Amendment/NRA/pro-gun lobby bullhorns: where were all the CCW heroes that you people swore would save the day at these tragedies? It was in Texas, ya know. :thinking:

It was also in a 'gun free zone'.
 
Sure as hell did, what a whole week ago?

Despite Trump's denials, FBI Director Christopher Wray says right-wing racist terrorism is a major threat

IGOR DERYSH

JULY 24, 2019 9:30PM (UTC)


FBI Director Christopher Wray on Tuesday that the agency has seen an increase in the number of domestic terror arrests this fiscal year, a majority of which have been motivated by white supremacy.

Wray told the Senate Judiciary Committee that the FBI has recorded about 100 domestic terrorism arrests in the last nine months. “A majority of the domestic terrorism cases we've investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence,” he told the panel.

Wray said the number of the domestic terrorism arrests has increased and is now close to the number of international terrorism arrests the bureau has made.

Wray’s testimony followed a House Homeland Security Committee hearing in May, where FBI counterterrorism chief Michael McGarrity testified that the bureau was investigating 850 potential domestic terrorism cases. McGarrity said that nearly half of the cases involved racially motivated extremists, most of whom were white supre
macists.

Sorry, dude. Racism and White Superiority firmly belongs on the left side of the aisle.
 
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Dumbfuck domer likes to pretend his moronic post "went over someone's head" whenever he gets his ass sufficiently kicked. :BKick:
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Hey, dumbfuck. Know what Obama was referring to when he was talking about rigged elections? He was answering a question about VOTER FRAUD, not the Russians. You know, the 3 million illegals that you morons think voted in 2016.

But a lazy cunt of your magnitude merely regurgitates the RW bullshit that some other idiot spews in your direction. Without thinking.

You failed again, shitstain. And I gladly pointed it out once again. Such an easy mark.

Laughable moron. :rofl2:
 
i wouldn't. especially when it concerns the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendments.

I'd say both are pushing the limits on them. The states, even more.
As for grand juries, I think they are unconstitutional. They use lies from non-credible witnesses and lies from law enforcement to get an arrest warrant.
 
Hey, dumbfuck. Know what Obama was referring to when he was talking about rigged elections? He was answering a question about VOTER FRAUD, not the Russians. You know, the 3 million illegals that you morons think voted in 2016.

But a lazy cunt of your magnitude merely regurgitates the RW bullshit that some other idiot spews in your direction. Without thinking.

You failed again, shitstain. And I gladly pointed it out once again. Such an easy mark.

Laughable moron. :crybaby:

Hey dumbfuck, I understand that you're illiterate, but you can't even understand the spoken word? You are one stupid fuck. Regardless of the question, he was pontificating about the election being hacked, hence his discussion of how decentralized the process is.

But a dishonest cunt of your magnitude merely continues with bogus talking points to delegitimize the results of an election you didn't like and as a preemptive excuse for when you lose again.

You failed again turd licker. And I gladly pointed it out once again. Suck a dishonest fool.

Laughable moron. :rofl2:

Watch "Obama on Election Can't Be Hacked" on YouTube
 
Hey dumbfuck, I understand that you're illiterate, but you can't even understand the spoken word? You are one stupid fuck. Regardless of the question, he was pontificating about the election being hacked, hence his discussion of how decentralized the process is.

But a dishonest cunt of your magnitude merely continues with bogus talking points to delegitimize the results of an election you didn't like and as a preemptive excuse for when you lose again.

You failed again turd licker. And I gladly pointed it out once again. Suck a dishonest fool.

Laughable moron. :rofl2:

Watch "Obama on Election Can't Be Hacked" on YouTube

He sure as shit WAS NOT talking about hacking, you illiterate fucking moron. He was responding to this question:

QUESTION: “Thank you, Mr. President. I would like to ask you about the election. Donald Trump is telling his supporters that the election is rigged and asking them to monitor certain areas on Election Day.

Are you worried the results of the election may be distrusted?”

Obama mentions hacking how many times in your video, stupid fuck? ZERO. Why? Because he’s referring to VOTER FRAUD, not Russian hacking.

You got your ignorant, lying ass kicked again, fucking moron. Give it up and move on. :rofl2:
 
He sure as shit WAS NOT talking about hacking, you illiterate fucking moron. He was responding to this question:

QUESTION: “Thank you, Mr. President. I would like to ask you about the election. Donald Trump is telling his supporters that the election is rigged and asking them to monitor certain areas on Election Day.

Are you worried the results of the election may be distrusted?”

Obama mentions hacking how many times in your video, stupid fuck? ZERO. Why? Because he’s referring to VOTER FRAUD, not Russian hacking.

You got your ignorant, lying ass kicked again, fucking moron. Give it up and move on. :rofl2:

Are you really that dumb? You think politicians stick to answering the specific question they were asked? Of course you are. When he said that elections were decentralized, you think he was still addressing FRAUD? Laughable moron. Listen more carefully WHEN YOUR MESSIAH IS TALKING!

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Are you really that dumb? You think politicians stick to answering the specific question they were asked? Of course you are. When he said that elections were decentralized, you think he was still addressing FRAUD? Laughable moron. Listen more carefully WHEN YOUR MESSIAH IS TALKING!

:rofl2:

:lolup:

You got your ignorant ass handed to you and you’re too fucking stupid to even realize it. :rofl2:

Here’s his entire response, you fucking illiterate moron. Pay attention to the bolded words. Also, see where you can find mention of your hacking claim.

“I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It's unprecedented. It happens to be based on no facts. Every expert, regardless of political party, regardless of ideology — conservative or liberal — who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found …

If you start whining before the game is even over, if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job. Because there are a lot of times when things don’t go our way, or my way. *That’s okay. You fight through it, you work through it. You try to accomplish your goals.

But the larger point that I want to emphasize here is that there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved. There’s no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances in which that will happen this time. And so I’d advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes."


VOTER FRAUD, ignorant cunt. NOT a word about Russian hacking.

Illiterate fool.
 
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You got your ignorant ass handed to you and you’re too fucking stupid to even realize it. :crybaby:

Here’s my Messiah's entire response, you fucking illiterate moron. Pay attention to the bolded words. Also, see where you can find my Messiah mentioning your hacking claim.

“I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It's unprecedented. It happens to be based on no facts. Every expert, regardless of political party, regardless of ideology — conservative or liberal — who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found …

If you start whining before the game is even over, if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job. Because there are a lot of times when things don’t go our way, or my way. *That’s okay. You fight through it, you work through it. You try to accomplish your goals.

But the larger point that I want to emphasize here is that there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved. There’s no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances in which that will happen this time. And so I’d advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes."


VOTER FRAUD, ignorant cunt. NOT a word about Russian hacking.

Illiterate fool.

Keep crying cunt. Our elections are secure according to your Messiah. :rofl2:
 
Just to keep everyone on track regarding the OP.....the El Paso and Dayton were done with weapons that were on the old Assault Weapons Ban of 1994....of which the GOP REFUSES to reinstate after it expired in 2004, and have subsequently stone walled any new such federally mandated bans.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I've said it before and I'll say it again....if we treat all gun purchases like this country treats car purchases, you'd have a better tracking system and mandatory class to pass in handling the item. Won't stop all nuts and evil doers, but it'll cut down the number of incidences.

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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Oh, and for all the 2nd Amendment/NRA/pro-gun lobby bullhorns: where were all the CCW heroes that you people swore would save the day at these tragedies? It was in Texas, ya know.

Blatantly stupid fallacy. If it doesn't work one time out of a hundred, then the DAILY reports of it working are all suddenly somehow invalid.

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Your little cartoon is indeed just that, a cartoon. Excerpting passages to enhance your myopic take on the Constitution is a time honored ploy of blatantly stupid right wing wonks.
And to date, you do NOT have statistics that conclusively demonstrate the absurd notion that more guns in the general population would deter mass shooters. You want to go there, then let's do it with VALID, DOCUMENTED FACTS THAT TELL THE WHOLE STORY. I'll wait.
 
By the way...speaking of outrageously dishonest liberal narratives...:laugh:


Unlike you, I don't need silly little myopic right wing ditty's like the previous shown to make a valid point. The bottom line is that the weapons of choice in the Texas and Ohio shootings were previously on the 1994 AWB list....you know, the one that sunset and the GOP blocks it's reinstatement. A matter of history, a matter of fact. Try showing your video to the surviving family members after they know this. Good luck with that.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Do you see people declaring war for no other than imperialism normal? Do you see those who say "collateral damage" as an acceptable norm "normal"? The NRA flunkies in the Right wing media think calling all these jokers nuts somehow lessens the glaring need to bring back the Assault Weapons Ban.


Yes, if you mean normal as in typical...

NO

I dunno what the NRA flunkies have to say.....

I think almost all of these murders are nuts, do to the fact they are nuts.........

This happens so often, it is the norm..

Mental illness has always been part of society/humanity but now they are left to their own devices or jail..

It is also unfortunate that the media & various social media give them 15 mins of fame & fill the news cycle w/ the heinous crimes, life etc etc etc essentially glorifying them, @ least in many of their eyes...


Sorry William, but a good number of these mass shooters are no mentally unhinged than military folk who see a scorched earth policy, carpet bombing or surgical strikes as normal.

I was previously responding to the assumption/assertion that all these shooters are mentally off. A good portion of them are not.....just very determined. The apologist for the gun lobby thinks to mask the connection between availability of assault weapons and mass shootings by making all shooters crazy. Well, bringing back the 1994 AWB still makes sense, because crazy or sane, it would deny mass shooters their weapons of choice. Just saying.



Just to keep everyone on track regarding the OP.....the El Paso and Dayton were done with weapons that were on the old Assault Weapons Ban of 1994....of which the GOP REFUSES to reinstate after it expired in 2004, and have subsequently stone walled any new such federally mandated bans.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I've said it before and I'll say it again....if we treat all gun purchases like this country treats car purchases, you'd have a better tracking system and mandatory class to pass in handling the item. Won't stop all nuts and evil doers, but it'll cut down the number of incidences.

it sounds like it would do that, but how many times have we seen these cowards ignore the current gun laws......what makes anyone think they'll suddenly obey new ones?

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Oh, and for all the 2nd Amendment/NRA/pro-gun lobby bullhorns: where were all the CCW heroes that you people swore would save the day at these tragedies? It was in Texas, ya know.

although TX does have a lot licensed carriers, El Paso seems to have the least amount of all the major cities in TX. I don't know why that is.

For starters, all those states that have pretty lax laws requiring gun purchases would have to adhere to having all customers get that license and registration. Criminals like as little oversight as possible....which is why you have such a thing as the "Iron Pipeline" for guns used in crimes in NYC, which has very strict gun laws. It would also put the kibosh on the gun show loopholes. Not perfect and won't stop all illegal exchanges/purchases/transfers, but it sure as hell would put a serious crimp in them.

But that does not change the fact that in state with CCW, you had none to stop this guy. And if there were some who would have tried, how would the cops tell the difference between bad guy and good guy in a panic crowd fleeing shootout?
 
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