Another Bigoted Liberal Law Illegally Discriminating Against Only One Religion

countryboy said:
Nonsense, they're being forced under threat of imprisonment and financial hardship to go against the tenets of their religious beliefs. In what Bizarro world is that not an infringement of their religious liberty? Don't be ridiculous.
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What religion do they believe in? They're not Christians. obviously. Shouldn't people be expected to provide what they advertise?
 
countryboy said:
Nonsense, they're being forced under threat of imprisonment and financial hardship to go against the tenets of their religious beliefs. In what Bizarro world is that not an infringement of their religious liberty? Don't be ridiculous.

Furthermore, you oversimplify the situation by stating they were being asked to print some invitations. That is wholly inaccurate, these are artisans who are being forced to create artwork which violates the tenets of their religion. But frankly that is somewhat of a moot point. We either are afforded religious liberty, or we are not.
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Really? It's an infringement of their belief system? Let's explore that. Do Christians believe that people who are not married in the church but in a civil ceremony instead are married in the eyes of God?
 
iolo said:
What religion do they believe in? They're not Christians. obviously. Shouldn't people be expected to provide what they advertise?
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Who are you to speculate what is in their hearts? Why should anyone be forced to create artwork of any kind against their will, for any reason? Euro-weenie fascism has rotted your brain.
 
countryboy said:
Who are you to speculate what is in their hearts? Why should anyone be forced to create artwork of any kind against their will, for any reason? Euro-weenie fascism has rotted your brain.
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If you advertise something you are expected to provide it in most countries. Your Nazi prejudices are for your private life.
 
kudzu said:
You object to civil rights for gays, blacks or anyone you don't approve of? Why don't you post your list?
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You mean like you object to civil rights for those practicing their religion in a manner with which you disagree?

Those you listed feel they deserve special treatment. Why do you support special treatment for certain groups over others?
 
countryboy said:
Who are you to speculate what is in their hearts? Why should anyone be forced to create artwork of any kind against their will, for any reason? Euro-weenie fascism has rotted your brain.
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Is their business open to the public or not? A print shop really isn't about art work.. The customer chooses paper, print, color, size and message from a menu..
 
CFM said:
You mean like you object to civil rights for those practicing their religion in a manner with which you disagree?

Those you listed feel they deserve special treatment. Why do you support special treatment for certain groups over others?
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I don't object to the way anyone worships.. If you are a Jehovah's Witness I just don't want you trespassing on my property..

Who do you think deserves special treatment? You are accusing me based on YOUR lie.
 
kudzu said:
I don't object to the way anyone worships.. If you are a Jehovah's Witness I just don't want you trespassing on my property..

Who do you think deserves special treatment? You are accusing me based on YOUR lie.
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Sure you do. You don't believe a business should be able to serve or not serve someone when exercising their religious beliefs.

No one deserves special treatment yet you believe they do. Are you going to claim that you don't believe those you listed should have protected class status?
 
CFM said:
Sure you do. You don't believe a business should be able to serve or not serve someone when exercising their religious beliefs.

No one deserves special treatment yet you believe they do. Are you going to claim that you don't believe those you listed should have protected class status?
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Who do you think deserves special treatment?

If your restaurant doesn't serve hamburgers would you demand your waitress bring you a burger? How about if the cafe doesn't have a liquor license?

How about a bakery? Would you demand they sell you corned beef? I think you are really stupid.
 
Guille said:
They're not trying to participate in our society [except for the part where they are just trying to run a business or get to do anything in public at all without violating their religious beliefs (which no one forces Muslims to do, by the way)], they're trying to have it both ways by opening their doors to the public...while at the same time desiring to push their private religious views [Newsflash: Not violating their religious beliefs to accommodate the non-existent right of homosexuals to force others to endorse their lifestyle is nothing like "pushing their private religious views"].
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Guille said:
Are you arguing that because someone gets away with something in your opinion that two wrongs make a right?
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Obviously, my point is that this "endorse my lifestyle at gunpoint or be a second-class citizen" standard is only applied to Christians.

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Guille said:
No one is being forced to participate in their lifestyle [except for the part where they are prosecuted, fined, bankrupted, and have their entire lives ruined for not participating in things that violate their religious beliefs, sure]...It's been awhile since I've read the Bible but I do seem to recall something in there about render unto Caesar that which is his and that wasn't just talking about paying your taxes. [no, telling people to let policy be dictated by politicians and focusing their own attention on God in no way legitimizes violating people's most basic constitutionally-protected rights]. I don't recall anything about not dealing with gays but perhaps you can refresh my memory on that issue? [The Bible is pretty emphatically anti-homosexual. I think this is beyond dispute. And it isn't about DEALING with homosexuals...it's about PARTICIPATING in their illegitimate (in the eyes of the Bible) weddings]
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Apples and oranges.
 
kudzu said:
Who do you think deserves special treatment?

If your restaurant doesn't serve hamburgers would you demand your waitress bring you a burger? How about if the cafe doesn't have a liquor license?

How about a bakery? Would you demand they sell you corned beef? I think you are really stupid.
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I answered it already you stupid cunt.

No one deserves special treatment yet you believe faggots and a long list of minorities deserve protected class status. BTW, that's special treatment.

I'm far smarter than to expect a business to serve a product they don't carry. You, on the other hand, believe if they don't carry it, they should because you believe it's owed to you.

I'm not the one that thought a black BOY was qualified because of skin color. You did.

When is that lying POS going to buy the Volt he promised to buy?
 
Arminius said:
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Obviously, my point is that this "endorse my lifestyle at gunpoint or be a second-class citizen" standard is only applied to Christians.

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You don't have a business license do you? Let me clue you in, one of the requirements to be licensed is to agree to obey the law. Your religious beliefs don't enter into that agreement.
 
Guille said:
You don't have a business license do you? Let me clue you in, one of the requirements to be licensed is to agree to obey the law. Your religious beliefs don't enter into that agreement.
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When the raghead bitch that wants to be able to wear her Muslim uniform was elected, didn't she agree to abide by the rules about head coverings?
 
CFM said:
When the raghead bitch that wants to be able to wear her Muslim uniform was elected, didn't she agree to abide by the rules about head coverings?
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I have no idea what the law is regarding head coverings. It also has nothing to do with the OP.
 
Frank Apisa said:
And since this is about CHRISTIANS...perhaps Arminius could provide us with even one word that Jesus said to condemn homosexuality. (Be careful here, Arminius, be very careful!)
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This is common knowledge stuff, and it's off-topic. Spend ten seconds on Google.
 
kudzu said:
How have you been persecuted for your faith?

Its WND.. and they are long time "Christian swindlers".
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The OP has numerous sources. You fixating on WND and smearing them as if that invalidates the facts they are commenting on is a you problem. :dunno:
 
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