...And STRONGER TEA is STEEPING!

apple0154 said:
And we know where that would lead. The armed services wouldn't be obliged to protect you. I think that's referred to as civil war.
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I'll pay for that portion then. In fact, I don't mind paying for any of the government services enumerated in the Constitution.
 
Damn Yankee said:
I'll pay for that portion then. In fact, I don't mind paying for any of the government services enumerated in the Constitution.
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What will you pay for it with if the economy tanks out further as a result of spending cuts and default?
 
America is not going to be in trouble if we don't raise taxes. America is going to be in trouble if we don't cut spending.
 
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The fact you can't reply to his point shows you don't have a reasonable point to make. That reveals your weakness.
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I agree that Dumb Yankee's failure to respond means he doesn't have a reasonable point to make and it reveals his weakness.


Tell us how the Word of God commands America to make government smaller.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Your false premise is "the economy tanks out further as a result of spending cuts and default."
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That's not my quote. I asked a question. You excised my quote to make your evasion seem reasonable, didn't you?


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What will you pay for it with if the economy tanks out further as a result of spending cuts and default?
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You lied. You lose.

 
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Is there any evidence that cutting government spending will create jobs?

The "deficit crisis" was manufactured by the GOP, who somehow neglected to oppose routine debt ceiling increases in the past.
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It's just one more tactic in the Republican's bag of tricks to degrade the government. They want the government to fail as far as people being able to count on it.

Whether it's Rumsfeld taking money that could have been used to better the lives of many and deciding to spend it on an unnecessary war as he so eloquently put it, "It was an option we could afford", to today's Repubs attacking social programs.

(Excerpt) (2008)There is no such thing as a free lunch, and there is no such thing as a free war. The Iraq adventure has seriously weakened the U.S. economy, whose woes now go far beyond loose mortgage lending. You can't spend $3 trillion -- yes, $3 trillion -- on a failed war abroad and not feel the pain at home.

Why doesn't the public understand the staggering scale of our expenditures? In part because the administration talks only about the upfront costs, which are mostly handled by emergency appropriations. ……..

By the time you add in the costs hidden in the defense budget, the money we'll have to spend to help future veterans, and money to refurbish a military whose equipment and materiel have been greatly depleted, the total tab to the federal government will almost surely exceed $1.5 trillion.

But the costs to our society and economy are far greater. When a young soldier is killed in Iraq or Afghanistan, his or her family will receive a U.S. government check for just $500,000 ………

The stark "budgetary cost" of $500,000 is clearly only a fraction of the total cost society pays for the loss of life -- and no one can ever really compensate the families. Moreover, disability pay seldom provides adequate compensation for wounded troops or their families. Indeed, in one out of five cases of seriously injured soldiers, someone in their family has to give up a job to take care of them.
But beyond this is the cost to the already sputtering U.S. economy. All told, the bill for the Iraq war is likely to top $3 trillion. And that's a conservative estimate.

President Bush tried to sell the American people on the idea that we could have a war with little or no economic sacrifice. Even after the United States went to war, Bush and Congress cut taxes, especially on the rich -- even though the United States already had a massive deficit. So the war had to be funded by more borrowing. By the end of the Bush administration, the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, plus the cumulative interest on the increased borrowing used to fund them, will have added about $1 trillion to the national debt. (End)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846.html

(Excerpt) (2011)Though the withdrawal of American military forces from Iraq and Afghanistan will save the nation billions of dollars a year, another cost of war is projected to continue rising for decades to come: caring for the veterans.

By one measure, the cost of health care and disability compensation for veterans from those conflicts and all previous American wars ranks among the largest for the federal government — less than the military, Social Security and health care programs including Medicare, but nearly the same as paying interest on the national debt, the Treasury Department says.(End)
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/28/us/28veterans.html

Instead of holding the government responsible for the social programs they promised the people the Repubs would like nothing more than to say, "See, we told you. You can't count on government."

What other reason would anyone cut taxes as the deficit increased? The money was deliberately wasted so when it came to social programs they could say, "Sorry, no money", and that is the same motivation behind refusing to raise the debt ceiling.

It's nothing but a lying scam to say the richest country on the face of the planet can not provide health care for it's citizens. It's a disgusting, immoral, deliberately contrived crisis plotted and carried out under the eight years of Repub rule. The starting of wars, the cut in taxes....two things that are not easily rectified regardless if the leadership in Washington changes. Meanwhile, the cumulative damage adds up to where not only are future social programs dismissed out of hand but current ones are being subjected to cuts.

The deficit crisis is a well thought-out plan just as the possibility of a war with Iraq was incubated years before Bush and the Repubs entered the White House. This was all planned, from the war to the tax cuts, to deliberately defraud the American citizen, to literally steal the money from the citizens who contributed and counted on their government.

it is nothing but the loathsome actions of the Republican government that has brought the US to the current crisis and they're playing their hand to the very end but, just as Obamacare was finally realized, Obama and the Democrats will succeed and the scum will be removed next year.
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I feel better now. :D

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