And people still listen to this guy?

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

I’ve seen BP fumbling and flailing around enough to come to that conclusion that this well is going to spew for months. In fact, I pretty much knew within a week of this spill that BP was flying by the seat of their pants and it was spiraling into a clusterfuck.

Yeah I know, so if a retarded fool idiot like you can know that, why can't this administration also know it? I think that is your big problem here... everyone who is above the level of a vegetable, knows and understands BP is way over its head, and they wonder why the Federal government has not taken charge of the situation and done something about it yet! How long does the clusterfuck have to continue before Obama stops partying at the White House, and gets his ass in gear solving the problem? Another two months? Six? Eight? We gonna wait until the entire Gulf of Mexico is a big oil pit with no chance for any aquatic life to survive?

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

"In the long run, we're all dead." - John Maynard Keynes

 

[Onceler]

Limbaugh has made the claim that more oil seeps into the Gulf of Mexico naturally, every year, than has spilled from Deepwater Horizon. As it turns out, this claim is actually true.

Oil seeps are fairly common around the world both underwater and above ground. Oil seeps occur when enough cracks and fissures form above a reservoir to enable a small quantity of oil to escape naturally. The La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles are a large terrestrial oil seep, and oil seeps have long been used to help identify submarine oil reserves. Oil seeps are prevalent in many bodies of water, and the Gulf of Mexico is no exception.

Oil seeps are more common than you think, both on land and underwater.

A satellite survey published in January of 2000 counted at least 600 natural oil seeps within the Gulf. And they release a lot of oil.

It is difficult to calculate underwater spill rates. Especially for 600+ sites. So the numbers here are pretty wide ranges, but the scale of the estimates is impressive.

A 2003 National Academies study estimated that about 980,000 barrels of oil, or about 41 million gallons, seep into the Gulf - every year. Recall that the Exxon Valdez is estimated to have spilled about 250,000 barrels.
More at link....
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/j/d/jdf15/2010/05/back-when-this-all-first.php

Ah...seepage again!

Tell me, o' braindead one - what affect has the seepage had on fishermen, jobs & tourism over the years?

 

[Cypress]

Then why the fuck is everybody quoting Limbaugh saying what everyone knows, and acting like he has two heads or something? He made a correct and accurate statement, but reading the OP it seems you think it is 'laughable' that Limbaugh said such a thing. As you just said, everyone knows the ocean will recover!

Because Limbaugh has a record of spinning, denying, lying, and misrepresenting on any and all issues environmental and scientific.

He began this crap over a month ago claiming that this well blowout was no worse than natural seeps.

Everyone knows, including you, that Limbaugh isn't merely providing his benign scientific interpretation. The four time-married, drug addicted fat ass has made his millions spinning and lying - usually in the interest of mega corporations.

 

[WinterBorn]

Limbaugh has made the claim that more oil seeps into the Gulf of Mexico naturally, every year, than has spilled from Deepwater Horizon. As it turns out, this claim is actually true.

Oil seeps are fairly common around the world both underwater and above ground. Oil seeps occur when enough cracks and fissures form above a reservoir to enable a small quantity of oil to escape naturally. The La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles are a large terrestrial oil seep, and oil seeps have long been used to help identify submarine oil reserves. Oil seeps are prevalent in many bodies of water, and the Gulf of Mexico is no exception.

Oil seeps are more common than you think, both on land and underwater.

A satellite survey published in January of 2000 counted at least 600 natural oil seeps within the Gulf. And they release a lot of oil.

It is difficult to calculate underwater spill rates. Especially for 600+ sites. So the numbers here are pretty wide ranges, but the scale of the estimates is impressive.

A 2003 National Academies study estimated that about 980,000 barrels of oil, or about 41 million gallons, seep into the Gulf - every year. Recall that the Exxon Valdez is estimated to have spilled about 250,000 barrels.
More at link....
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/j/d/jdf15/2010/05/back-when-this-all-first.php

Let me see if I can draw an analogy that you can understand.

Lets say I have a beaker of acid. If I take that beaker and pour it into a 50 acre lake, a little at a time over 12 months, you probably won't worry too much about it.

Now let me take a beaker half full of the same acid and pour it into a bathrub full of water. Want your rubber ducky?

Do they seem the same now???

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Limbaugh: "The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."

Dixie, everyone knows the ocean will recover eventually.

There is no difference in the point being made in each of these statements. However, for some odd reason, when Rush Limbaugh says it, this is absurd and unbelievable... why is that? Do you fuckwits have some kind of mental disorder, whereby you hear something coming from the mouth (or pen) of a right-winger, and it somehow translates into the opposite message being sent to your atrophied brains? I don't understand it!

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Let me see if I can draw an analogy that you can understand.

Lets say I have a beaker of acid. If I take that beaker and pour it into a 50 acre lake, a little at a time over 12 months, you probably won't worry too much about it.

Now let me take a beaker half full of the same acid and pour it into a bathrub full of water. Want your rubber ducky?

Do they seem the same now???

It depends on the strength of the acid.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Let me see if I can draw an analogy that you can understand.

Lets say I have a beaker of acid. If I take that beaker and pour it into a 50 acre lake, a little at a time over 12 months, you probably won't worry too much about it.

Now let me take a beaker half full of the same acid and pour it into a bathrub full of water. Want your rubber ducky?

Do they seem the same now???

It's a poor analogy. The total amount of oil from the BP leak is actually LESS OIL than what is typically experienced in the ocean in any given year, from a multitude of other sources. If the oceans of the world are "the bathtub" in your analogy, and the BP spill is the acid, it's about a thimble full.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is no difference in the point being made in each of these statements. However, for some odd reason, when Rush Limbaugh says it, this is absurd and unbelievable... why is that? Do you fuckwits have some kind of mental disorder, whereby you hear something coming from the mouth (or pen) of a right-winger, and it somehow translates into the opposite message being sent to your atrophied brains? I don't understand it!

Because Rush is saying it with the same intent you posted "but the actual oil in the ocean is not as big a problem as people (mainly on the left) are making it out to be".

Its the idea that this huge tragedy is downplayed to make fun of those on the other side of the aisle.

The idea that this monstrous event, effecting the environment and the coastal economies for decades into the future, can be made to seem like some drama invented by tree-huggers is offensive as hell to any thinking person.

You are fond of talking about people "drinking the koolaid". Well on this topic you have guzzled gallons of the stuff.

 

[WinterBorn]

It's a poor analogy. The total amount of oil from the BP leak is actually LESS OIL than what is typically experienced in the ocean in any given year, from a multitude of other sources. If the oceans of the world are "the bathtub" in your analogy, and the BP spill is the acid, it's about a thimble full.

Except its notthe oceans of the world. Its focused on the coastal regions of the US.

The analogy stands because the idea that slow leaks spread over the entire year and the entire gulf equate to the millions of gallons suddenly dumped into one section of the gulf is the same.

 

[Onceler]

It's a poor analogy. The total amount of oil from the BP leak is actually LESS OIL than what is typically experienced in the ocean in any given year, from a multitude of other sources. If the oceans of the world are "the bathtub" in your analogy, and the BP spill is the acid, it's about a thimble full.

It's a good analogy. It's about impact. You know what this is doing to industry down there...why are you choosing to be so dim?

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Ah...seepage again!

Tell me, o' braindead one - what affect has the seepage had on fishermen, jobs & tourism over the years?

whats with the name calling? going for platinum hypocrisy award this week?

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Because Rush is saying it with the same intent you posted "but the actual oil in the ocean is not as big a problem as people (mainly on the left) are making it out to be".

Its the idea that this huge tragedy is downplayed to make fun of those on the other side of the aisle.

The idea that this monstrous event, effecting the environment and the coastal economies for decades into the future, can be made to seem like some drama invented by tree-huggers is offensive as hell to any thinking person.

You are fond of talking about people "drinking the koolaid". Well on this topic you have guzzled gallons of the stuff.

Please point out where I said it was not a devastating thing to happen to the gulf coast economy or ecology? I don't believe such a statement has ever been made by me, because I happen to have personal friends who's businesses on the gulf coast are now ruined. I have major property investments which are now going to tank because of the impact this will have on the tourism industry. Nowhere have I argued that this isn't a major catastrophe or crisis. I merely pointed out that Limbaugh made a legitimate point about the ocean and its natural ability to clean itself up over time. YOU are the one who is twisting and distorting that small point (that even Prissy agrees with) into something you can trash and bash and lie about, because you are a dishonest hack fuckwit who is too morally bankrupt to argue issues on merit or hold this administration the least bit accountable for anything. You are too invested in distorting facts, manipulating the conversation, and forwarding your liberal agenda. The oil washing up on the gulf coast, really doesn't mean a goddamn thing to you, other than an "opportunity" to exploit something for political gain. It's really pathetic if you ask me.

 

[NOVA]

Ah...seepage again!

Tell me, o' braindead one - what affect has the seepage had on fishermen, jobs & tourism over the years?

Your question is irrelevant to the topic of my post...

I make no claims, just stating facts about natural oil seepage...

Sooo....fuck off...

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

It's a poor analogy. The total amount of oil from the BP leak is actually LESS OIL than what is typically experienced in the ocean in any given year, from a multitude of other sources. If the oceans of the world are "the bathtub" in your analogy, and the BP spill is the acid, it's about a thimble full.

thats like saying the total rainfall that causes a region to flood is but a thimble compared to the entire world's rainfall...while that may be true, it still causes a flood in the local region and by extension, often severe damage

 

[Cypress]

Limbaugh has made the claim that more oil seeps into the Gulf of Mexico naturally, every year, than has spilled from Deepwater Horizon. As it turns out, this claim is actually true.

Oil seeps are fairly common around the world both underwater and above ground. Oil seeps occur when enough cracks and fissures form above a reservoir to enable a small quantity of oil to escape naturally. The La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles are a large terrestrial oil seep, and oil seeps have long been used to help identify submarine oil reserves. Oil seeps are prevalent in many bodies of water, and the Gulf of Mexico is no exception.

Oil seeps are more common than you think, both on land and underwater.

A satellite survey published in January of 2000 counted at least 600 natural oil seeps within the Gulf. And they release a lot of oil.

It is difficult to calculate underwater spill rates. Especially for 600+ sites. So the numbers here are pretty wide ranges, but the scale of the estimates is impressive.

A 2003 National Academies study estimated that about 980,000 barrels of oil, or about 41 million gallons, seep into the Gulf - every year. Recall that the Exxon Valdez is estimated to have spilled about 250,000 barrels.
More at link....
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/j/d/jdf15/2010/05/back-when-this-all-first.php

I think republicans should campaign on the horrors of natural seepage, and how BP is no worse than natural seepage.

Riddle me this batman: if the BP disaster is no worse than natural seepage, why have republicans routinely been braying that "this is Obama's katrina", and whining that Obama isn't doing enough.

In other words, which time were you lying? When it was "Obama's Katrina"?........or that "natural seepage is just as bad as the BP cluserfuck"

 

[NOVA]

Let me see if I can draw an analogy that you can understand.

Lets say I have a beaker of acid. If I take that beaker and pour it into a 50 acre lake, a little at a time over 12 months, you probably won't worry too much about it.

Now let me take a beaker half full of the same acid and pour it into a bathrub full of water. Want your rubber ducky?

Do they seem the same now???

So whats your point ?....that is covered in the link....

I made no claims about the effects of the spill, one way or the other.
The article just states the facts of natural oil seepage...

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

It's a good analogy. It's about impact. You know what this is doing to industry down there...why are you choosing to be so dim?

Uhm... yes, I do know. As I said in the previous post, I have close personal friends who are going to lose their business because of this. I am going to take a huge hit in the shorts on rental property I have down there. Do you somehow translate Limbaugh's correct statement and my agreement of his statement, with us somehow claiming this is not a problem or we don't need to do anything about it? I mean, really... is that what you're coming away with here? Because that was not what I said, nor what Limbaugh said.

 

[Onceler]

So whats your point ?....that is covered in the link....

I made no claims about the effects of the spill, one way or the other.
The article just states the facts of natural oil seepage...

Sure - whatever, bravo. Thanks for the contribution.

 

[Onceler]

Uhm... yes, I do know. As I said in the previous post, I have close personal friends who are going to lose their business because of this. I am going to take a huge hit in the shorts on rental property I have down there. Do you somehow translate Limbaugh's correct statement and my agreement of his statement, with us somehow claiming this is not a problem or we don't need to do anything about it? I mean, really... is that what you're coming away with here? Because that was not what I said, nor what Limbaugh said.

That's exactly what Limbaugh said, and it's exactly what he has said through the years about other environmental issues. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

He's trying to marginalize the disaster - make it seem like no big thing. It's all about protecting big oil.