And like that, America's history is scrubbed

Thanks for laying that huge fact out! HE WAS AN ENEMY of the US.

Do we have statues of Hitler, Castro, or Mussolini or any other of our enemies everywhere? Anywhere?

No!

These are stories Black families have been passing down for generations.

It's why the south is so racist. Even though they lost the war they wanted to continue with slavery so they enacted laws, legislation, the klan, ideology, slave patrols all which are still part of their agenda today. They never wanted the slaves freed so they made sure Blacks stayed oppressed and imprisoned today.

This is what the right wing party represents


The south has been running this country ever since.
 
PBS also has a good documentary series about the american reconstruction after the civil war. white supremacy aint no joke.

I am amazed actually how many rightwing historical scholars this thread has attracted. Even some who never showed a sustained interest in historical scholarship prior to this thread.

I would like to save these jackasses some time - you are not going to learn much history staring at a bronze statue.

I am going to share my streaming video watchlist with these rightwing historical scholars. History is not being erased if a statue is moved. Assuming these rightwing scholars are authentically interested in southern history, my watchlist is probably available at their socialist library.

My Watchlist:

"Robert E. Lee and His High Command"
Professor Gary W. Gallagher, University of Virginia

"A New History of the American South"
Professor Edward L. Ayers, University of Richmond

"American Civil War"
Professor Gary W. Gallagher, University of Virginia
 
But how does the statue represent any history?

How does the statue help us learn from our mistakes?

Just like any symbol of history... It serves as a standard by which others may be measured or judged. Removing a symbol doesn't remove the fact that the history existed. ...Not validating the symbol does
 
This is on a smaller scale but USC's President yesterday announced they are removing the bust of a former USC President, and removing his name from a building (where I had classes), because he was a supporter of eugenics and thus is at odds with the school's multicultural community and inclusion and diversity.

I'm not a scientist nor all that familiar with eugenics. But in a reading a debate about this last night there were people who are concerned that we are re-writing history and at the time it was consider serious science and what we consider serious science today could be viewed in the same light in the future. Thus the censoring of history and canceling of the past is fraught with many ramifications.

This is what you belive it's why you posted this.

I see right through you............when will you stop being a coward?
 
Just like any symbol of history... It serves as a standard by which others may be measured or judged.

So the standard is glorification? Because that's the message those monuments convey.


Removing a symbol doesn't remove the fact that the history existed.

Great! So then we don't need these Confederate statues. So take 'em down.


Not validating the symbol does

So you want us to think of Robert E. Lee as a good person and not the traitorous loser he actually was. Because if you wanted us to think the latter, the statue would be him signing the surrender at Appomatox, with Grant standing above him.
 
99 percent of right wing deplorables who claim they are only acting in defense of protecting historical knowledge, have never actually even read a book about Robert E Lee, have never taken a college level course on the Confereracy, and have thus shown through their actions this is not really about honoring historical education and knowledge.

As for me, I have video classes about Robert E Lee, the history of the American South, the history of the Civil War on my streaming video watch list -- because I actually believe studying the Confereracy and the Confederate leadership is important to reflect on, and holds lessons for the erudite person.
Ive walked ( actually you ride thru) Gettyburg and DC Day Trip: Antietam National Battlefield and Harper’s Ferryhttps://freetoursbyfoot.com/dc-day-trip-antietam-national-battlefield-and-harpers-ferry/

such crap.
 
Robert E Lee willfully choose to fight and kill American soldiers to defend a chattel slave economy.

You and every other Trump supporter on this thread know that a statue erected in a public park is not a history teaching tool.

It is erected for the purpose of veneration and public commemoration.

I doubt you have ever even read a book on Robert E Lee, which makes your claim to being the defender of historical scholarship dubious at best
go fuck your sanctimonious self. so typical of you/Woke
 
For years, Democrats and those on the left have been trying to suppress America’s true history — the one that tells of American Exceptionalism, the one that speaks of the genius of the Founding Fathers, the one that speaks of freedoms for the individual as coming from God, not government.

And now, with George Floyd, they’re having their moment in the sun.

The left is on a rampage right now, busily tearing down any semblance of American history from America’s public eye.

The destroyers are everywhere.

In Washington, D.C., it was the World War II Memorial and fountain that were targeted by vandals who spray-painted, “Do black vets count?” And the Paralyzed Veterans of America’s headquarters. And the Department of Veterans Affairs headquarters. And several spots in the vicinity of the White House.

There are more, there are many more.

The protesters are supposedly angry at police brutality and systemic police racism.

But tearing down national monuments and defacing expressions of American history are acts of ISIS terrorists.

That such defacement is occurring on a widespread scale right now is not only a sad commentary on the tensions currently tearing at America’s fabric. But it’s also a sad, even sadder face-slapping reality show of how our schools are failing our emerging generations.

If true history were still taught in the public schools, angry youth wouldn’t be roaming the streets looking to lash out at some of the very foundations that helped make America so great and free in the first place. If places of higher learning in America hadn’t become breeding grounds for far-leftist professors to implant their propaganda, educated idiots wouldn’t be trampling over the symbols of America Past, trying to blot out the offensive and with it, the truths.

Simply put, a statue of Robert E. Lee doesn’t represent a national worship of Robert E. Lee. It only represents the historical contributions Robert E. Lee made in America — historical contributions that are irrefutably substantial.

Who would Black Lives Matter rather have as the faces of America’s monuments and memorials and statues? Or, to use the statue-destroyers’ standard: Who is perfect enough to be a face of America’s monuments and memorials and statues? Unless the answer is Jesus, it’s a lie.

America is not without sin. America doesn’t have a sinless past.

But what America does have is a Constitution and a set of founding documents and principles that lay the groundwork for all citizens, no matter ethnicity, no matter sex, no matter religion, no matter political leanings — but for all citizens to seek, to pursue, to achieve their hopes, goals and dreams in freedom, absent overburdensome government interference.

What America does offer is a set of governing ideals
that guarantee a black man the same rights as a white man; that hold a president of the United States to the same judicial standards as a garbage collector; that secure the freedoms of a woman the same as a man — as coming from God, not government.

After all these years of warring and bloodshed, of bickering and disputing, of dying through trying: They’re still there. The dream of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is still alive and well in America, for all to grab at, for all to embrace, no matter race, creed, color, sex, etc.

It’s just that it’s much easier to throw paint on a memorial than it is it to study hard, work hard and stay the course to achieve the dream.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/11/and-like-that-americas-history-is-scrubbed/

This is what Fascism looks like. Remove everything they find offensive. Attack and shut down everyone who disagrees. This is what the US will look like if these idiots in the Party of the Jackass ever gain enough political power.

Here's what leftist controlled cities already look like:

homeless_Los_Angeles_BCB_4884.jpg
 
What happened at Gettysburg? Oh right, Lee lost. So how do the monuments to him communicate that fact?
you ditz.
you go thru the different battlefields. Gettysburg was a 3 day affair
the monuments are to the regiments,or the generals and the battles. you can see the strategy and the tactics if you know more or get guide
 
This is what Fascism looks like. Remove everything they find offensive. Attack and shut down everyone who disagrees. This is what the US will look like if these idiots in the Party of the Jackass ever gain enough political power.

Here's what leftist controlled cities already look like:

homeless_Los_Angeles_BCB_4884.jpg
Indeed Dems are the new fascists. even worse then PC thought police now
 
You scream about people erasing history, but you are the one who is doing the erasing by putting up garbage with no context.
monuments don't have context you moron,unless they are a battlefield.

#STFU. go to some Civil war sites and get educated, then start appreciating the men on both sides who did the fighting and dying
 
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